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Is the Government

Started by: basil brush (19583)

poised to axe Wigan's migrant hotels?

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Started: 23rd Oct 2023 at 14:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

But what about the signed contracts, how long do they run for ?

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 14:10

Posted by: First Mate (2747)

5 years +

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Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 14:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 15:19

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6776) 

My response to signed contracts tts ,is to RIP THEM UP WE don't want them here in first place so fire them off down south let all those look after them . GB.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 15:19

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Golden Bear

If they did that, then the government would get soo'ed.

I suppose there might be early cancellation clauses in the contracts, but I would imagine it will cost the government money to cancel the contracts.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 15:22

Posted by: First Mate (2747)

I think you'll find that the owners of the property being used would be be
held responsible for the cancelling of any contracts they signed.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 15:26

Posted by: retep1949 (1312)

No doubt the money will just go to some other landlord.

Replied: 23rd Oct 2023 at 18:45

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

if we only had a landlord on here, who maybe knows about everything

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 10:51

Posted by: MrsC (110) 

The hotels chosen to be closed to migrants will all be in swing seats , so rest assured Wigan's hotels will continue to be used .

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 18:36

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

MrsC

My thoughts exactly, but thanks to Maureen O'Bern, there has been a lot of national publicity, regarding Standish and the two hotels being used there, she has been on GB News this afternoon saying that she does not know if the Standish hotels will be on the list of hotels, which will stop being used, but Wigan is not a marginal seat is it, however the government might want to get rid of those hotels, as them being bad news for the government publicity wise.

Replied: 24th Oct 2023 at 18:46

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

So do we take it that the so called protesting by Wigan Council and the MP of the Wigan Constiuency was only a token gester in the knowledge that nothing would be done by the Government about the mumber of known hotels being used in the Wigan area.

Are we in the Wigan area to become swing seat to get anything done about anything?

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 08:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Owd Codger

No, it is the Independent Councillor for Ince, Maureen O'Bern who organised the protests, and it has attracted media attention.

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 11:35

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 11:50

Posted by: MrsC (110) 

When the migrants are evicted from hotels , local councils will become responsible for housing them .
The burden will then shift to the council tax payer .

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 14:57

Posted by: First Mate (2747)

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 15:06

Posted by: surfer_tom (881)

Mrs c
Looks like your right that local councils will be responsible for them,shifts the blame off the torys , they don't care after causing the problems , might get a lot worse now

Replied: 25th Oct 2023 at 15:30

Posted by: whups (14319) 

the torys shoving it back to the public again .

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 01:02

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

Tommy Two Stroke

The Councillor for Ince may have organised the actual protests that involve any action, but the Council and the MP only made token ojections to make the local electorate think that they were opposed to the hotels being used while at the same time knowing full well that they would still continue to be used despite the protest.

And if the cost of housing the illegals was moved from the Hotels to the Councils, the cost would still be borne by those members of the public who pay Income and Council Tax.

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 08:37
Last edited by Owd Codger: 26th Oct 2023 at 09:04:41

Posted by: gaffer (8214) 

From Facebook, Standish then and now.

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Good Evening everyone we have been asked to share the following information with you .
Statement from Standish Councillors
We have tonight been informed by our MP Lisa Nandy that one of our contingency hotels is to be closed. Your 3 Standish Councillors Debbie Parkinson, Terry Mugan and Ray Whittingham are pleased at the Government’s decision to stop using one of our hotels to house asylum seekers. We have been working hard with Wigan Council and its officers using the appropriate and most effective channels to lobby the Government. We thank them all for their support which we know will continue.
Thank you also to our MP Lisa Nandy who has also been working on our behalf behind the scenes at Westminster to lobby the Government relentlessly. Our letters, emails and meetings objecting to the use of Kilhey Court to The Home Office, Suella Braverman MP, Robert Jenrick MP, Serco and Britannia and Macdonald Hotels and others have been acknowledged and we hope that the Government will stick to its word after previous promises were not kept. We will continue to push for this and to ensure that the second hotel is stood down and returned to our community as soon as possible.
As soon as we are able to confirm which hotel will be the first to close we will update our residents.
We will continue our monitoring meetings with all stakeholders which includes residents until both hotels are no longer used to house asylum seekers.
We would like to thank Standish residents for welcoming the asylum seekers, donating clothing, toiletries in huge quantities but it is time for the situation to end now. We will continue to work for all Standish Residents

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 09:00

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

So our local MP has done somthing for her constituents.

Her effort is to be commended even if it is only one of the two hotels in the Standish area.

But what is she and other Councillors of the other Wards doing about the other hotels in the Wigan Constiuency?

One Swallow does not make a Summer!

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 09:16
Last edited by Owd Codger: 26th Oct 2023 at 09:35:45

Posted by: MrsC (110) 

Most people believe the Britannia contract is up anyway , so it's likely to be the one for closure .

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 09:38

Posted by: Billinge Biker (2691) 

Sadly...one of the residents has done away with himself in the cut at beech hill.

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 10:16

Posted by: wigvet (3572)

Owd Codger - 'But what is she and other Councillors of the other Wards doing about the other hotels in the Wigan Constiuency?''

Which 'other hotels' are also being used OC?

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 11:04

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

Wigvet

Those mentioned by other posters, so why not ask them?

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 11:56

Posted by: whups (14319) 

they are asking you as it,s you who put it on . dodging another question todger .

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 12:17

Posted by: beep54 (1036)

Maureen O'bern has done all the pressing and hard work with the help of her supporters to get this done

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 13:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 14:00

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6776) 

In reply to yoooootts i couldn't give a toss if anyone wants to sue the gov let um try . But there is one question i would pose and that's if and when they get rid of these lazy bone idle men from these hotels .....
"WERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT THEM ""?????? I HAVE A SUGGESTION if they want it ?
G.B.

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 14:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Replied: 26th Oct 2023 at 14:48

Posted by: MrsC (110) 

Official .Kilhey Court to close to asylum seekers within the next few weeks.

Replied: 27th Oct 2023 at 16:52

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16425)

Replied: 27th Oct 2023 at 17:43

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

If true, perhaps the owners have realised that they can get more money by selling it for another purpose!

Would make a lovely private housing complex or even a private hospital for the many who can afford it!

Replied: 28th Oct 2023 at 09:34

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 10:12

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2991)

It highlights that it's this inept Tory government causing the problem not Wigan council, and it's nowt to do with Maureen Obern ,the Tories are running scared trying to buy votes same with their watered down green policies,tax cuts next

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 12:15

Posted by: PeterP (11795)

Which every hotel they choose I hope it has to shut down because joe public should boycott it . How many weddings etc had to be called off because they closed due being taken over for asylum seekers.
The Grand Hotel and the Mercure housed asylum seekers

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 12:26

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 13:17

Posted by: First Mate (2747)

Thanks for the update BB
Posted by: PeterP (10822)
Which every hotel they choose I hope it has to shut down because joe public should boycott it . How many weddings etc had to be called off because they closed due being taken over for asylum seekers.
The Grand Hotel and the Mercure housed asylum seekers

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 12:26

Maybe Kilhey will never re open, if they were struggling prior to them offering it to Serco they will most likely suffer after its closed to asylum seekers.

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 13:36
Last edited by First Mate: 31st Oct 2023 at 13:43:39

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2991)

Hope it dosn t reopen serve the greedy owner right

Replied: 31st Oct 2023 at 17:03

Posted by: PeterP (11795)

My concern is where are they going to send the asylum seekers when they close down the hotel

Replied: 1st Nov 2023 at 06:19

Posted by: Owd Codger (3793)

Perhaps to some of the redundent ex. military camps around the country!

If they were good enough for members of our armed forces, they should be good enough for them!

Replied: 1st Nov 2023 at 06:58

Posted by: PeterP (11795)

OC there was talk of sending them to Pontin's but with all the bad reviews about the site they would refuse to reside there. They would say its not up to their usual standards

Replied: 1st Nov 2023 at 07:37

Posted by: MrsC (110) 


They should be passed onto 'Care for Calais' , then lets see how much a hole that makes in their profits .

Replied: 1st Nov 2023 at 08:08

 

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