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Rathbones bread

Started by: i-spy (15310) 

Does a Rathbones loaf still exist. And if not when was the last one baked.

Started: 10th Dec 2020 at 15:37

Posted by: jo anne (34764) 

This is what Wiki says, I-Spy:

Rathbones Bakeries was a bakery founded in 1893, in Wigan, Lancashire. By 1997 it was owned by Greencore, through that company's purchase of Kears Group. Two years later, Kears Group rebranded itself as Rathbones.

Kears was bought from Greencore by Finedon Mill of Northampton, for £20.6 million in April 2004, a year in which it had sales of £100 million, with customers including Morrisons and Tesco. Following a fire the company went into receivership, with part of its operation sold to Warburtons and parts to Morrisons in 2005.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 15:46

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

??
them bones
them bones
them
Rathbones ??

edit:
ps sorry about the ?s. They were crotchets when I submitted the post, but the site has rendered them into question marks!

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 15:49
Last edited by priscus: 10th Dec 2020 at 15:52:31

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Anyone know if there is any connection with the Rathbone family of Liverpool?

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 16:04

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

I'm just trying to establish the age of the loaf I found at the bottom of my freezer. Wonder if it's ok for toast.
Found 2 Xmas puddings as well

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 16:14

Posted by: jo anne (34764) 

Sounds like you shouldn’t toast your frozen bread but take it to the Antique Loaf Show, I-Spy.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 16:52
Last edited by jo anne: 10th Dec 2020 at 16:53:58

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

Yes, because it might be worth a lot of money

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

Antique loaf

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:00

Posted by: jo anne (34764) 

Money for (c)old loaf.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:31

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

It's a thick sliced - could add to the value . Could end up with plenty dough ??

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:39

Posted by: jarvo (30270) 

Welcome back.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:43

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Jarvo
Thought I'd try to catch you up.cheers




Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 17:48

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Eatin' Rathbones bread,
your shit's like lumps o'lead,
you fart like thunder,
no bloody wonder,
eatin' Rathbones bread !

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 18:57

Posted by: Billinge Biker (3031) 

O Tonker.... You silver tongued devil.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:02

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

I bought one with Basils name on it so I thought.

But It only said Thick Cut.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:08

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:09

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

That's an old one, and the best thing is you can say it about anyone you hate.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:10

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Won't be long.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:14

Posted by: jo anne (34764) 

What about the 2 Xmas puddings, I-Spy, perhaps those could be more fruitful.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 19:55

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Apparently Xmas pud will last for ever.
If you and scousehubby would like to be guinea pigs just say.
But if he's an evertonian the offer is withdrawn. We need every supporter we can get

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 20:10

Posted by: tomplum (14611) 

has anyone else noticed that, when you are travelling up Warrington Road and you get just beyond skew bridge, there is that smell of baking bread,
Where is it coming from ?

Rathbones bread,
tastes like lead
if you eat it,
you drop dead.

they put summut in it
and makes me wonder
when ive ate it
I fart like thunder,

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 20:58

Posted by: cheshirecat (1676) 

Does anyone remember Halls bread?
They had a bakery in Wigan.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 21:15

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

Tom said:

"has anyone else noticed that, when you are travelling up Warrington Road and you get just beyond skew bridge, there is that smell of baking bread,
Where is it coming from ?


Yes I have smelled that and I thought it was the ghost of Rathbones Bakery

It is actually coming from the Five Star Bakery on the Stephens Way Estate, and the bakery is actually just behind the houses on Warrington Road, which are opposite the garage and the junction with Tyrer Avenue, so it is only a few yards away from Warrington Road

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 21:21

Posted by: tomplum (14611) 

thanks tommy, I too thought it was the ghost of rathbones, , everyday is a skool day,

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 21:24

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

Cheshirepuss said:

"Does anyone remember Halls bread?
They had a bakery in Wigan
"

Yes I do remember Halls bread, and do you know where their bakery was located, because it either closed down or changed hands in the early 1970s but I never knew where they came from.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 21:24
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 10th Dec 2020 at 21:25:16

Posted by: jo anne (34764) 

Thanks very much, I-Spy. My husband’s not an Evertonian but we wouldn’t deprive you of your Xmas pud.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 22:06

Posted by: cheshirecat (1676) 

Tommy Two Stroke
"Yes I do remember Halls bread, and do you know where their bakery was located,"
Yes I do.
I had Spirograph on toast from next door
Thats a clue for you where it was.

Replied: 10th Dec 2020 at 23:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

Cheshirecat

Yoo have given me a headache tonight

Now I have worked out from dooing a lot of Googling, that Halls Bakery was in part of the Pagefield/Gidlow Mills building on Walkden Avenue, and I am guessing now, but your spirograph remark may refer to cheese ?

And there was a cheese manufacturer in Wigan, and the owner lived on Wigan Lane, so I am thinking was there maybe have been a cheese factory at the side of Halls Bakery

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 00:55

Posted by: linma (2955)

I buy a Rathbones thick sliced loaf every week. Brunch on Boxing Day, turkey, sage and onion and mayonnaise on toasted thick sliced Warburtons. Beautiful. A favourite in our house for years.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 06:45

Posted by: gaffer (8383) 

Was Halls bakery in New Springs?

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 09:45

Posted by: firefox (3239)

There was a cheese shop on gidlow lane

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 09:52

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 11:04

Posted by: firefox (3239)

I won't click, but a guess would be a Monty Python sketch?

I clicked, amd guess what?
Did you know that sketch was performed in the cheese shop on Gidlow lane?
Not a lot of people know that.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 11:14
Last edited by firefox: 11th Dec 2020 at 11:15:53

Posted by: basil brush (20047)

I remember someone saying that some of the night shift used to run across to the jawbone on there first break.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 11:22

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

I don't think the Monty Python crew did night shift?

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 14:18

Posted by: firefox (3239)

They did a few late nights, I'll be bound.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 14:18

Posted by: fedup (257)

TTS - I think you are correct that Halls Bakery was on Walkden Avenue (as I lived nearby!) and remember the smells when walking past to go to school.
The cheese factors were Hughes Bros (relatives of ours!) but I do not think they had any connection with Halls. Their shop was initially on Gidlow Lane near the " Henhole" pub.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 17:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

fedup

Thank you and that name is their name, but I never knew where they had the cheese factory or shop.

Yoo can't beat having a nice piece of cheese

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 17:50

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Did they have a daughter, possibly named Susan?

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 18:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16559)

No,, the daughters name was Freya and they had a lad called Leicester

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 18:31

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Leicester??? Are you sure the daughter wasn’t Feta.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 18:40

Posted by: firefox (3239)

His joke was almost a gouda n

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 18:49

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Tread Caerphilly.

Replied: 11th Dec 2020 at 18:51

Posted by: Meadowland5 (3)

Halls bakery was indeed in Walkden Avenue but is now apartments.

Harvey’s bakery was in Cale Lane Whelley. They later became part of Hovis.
The bakery was demolished in the early 2000’s and became a housing estate.

Replied: 3rd May 2025 at 14:49

Posted by: Anne (4465) 

Harvey’s bakery was situated at the Manley street end of Harvey street, Lower Ince before the move to Cale lane. All the grocers shops along Warrington road used to pop in whenever they ran out of bread.

Replied: 3rd May 2025 at 15:49

Posted by: muckus (39)

I had a summer job there in 1981 during wakes week. Worst job of my life. I asked one of the regulars where he brought his bread from (they got discounted price bread) and he told me Warburtons! Never buy bread rolls if they aren't joined together

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 11:31

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Looks like we’ve got foreigners on here now?

Speak English!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 13:26

Posted by: muckus (39)

I'm from Billinge

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 13:42

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Billinge is not far enough south to call barm cakes “rolls”.
And, the past participle of “buy” is “bought”. Not brought.
Your colleague did not bring his bread, he bought it. Tha’sees!

Even in Billinge!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 13:56

Posted by: muckus (39)

When I was talking about rolls I meant 'sultana batches', but equally applicable to other individually portioned bread products. If they aren't connected, it's probably been on the floor and picked up and repackaged and you don't want to know what was on the floor

I used to eat barm cakes, but they don't exist where I live now

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 14:27

Posted by: Owd Codger (4360)

muskus

Billinge Higher End with us Wiganers or Billinge Chapel End with the Scousers?

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 15:45

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

“Batch”?????

You’re goin’ worse!!!!

And don’t you start, Owd Codswallop, with your “scousers”. You wouldn’t know a scouser if one smacked thee in t’gob!
You can’t compare Wiganers with Scousers.
You should’ve said “us Mancs and the scousers”.
Wiganers are from Wigan, not Billinge!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 16:59

Posted by: muckus (39)

That's what Ratbones called them, not my name, they were like mini American footballs, ideal for throwing at people.

Well hospital, but my family owns the house on Billinge Rd just up from Simms Lane, they always called it Billinge as opposed to Simms Lane and that family goes back a long time, so they would know.
They had a farm up at Higher end, but seem to moved to mining in the 1800's. My other grandparents were from Garswood/Downall Green area

Me, my parents moved to Bryn so when people say where are you from, I say Wigan as that's where I usually went but I think Billinge sounds posher.

This was before all this GM/Merseyside nonsense (I refuse to recognise it) - I never met a real scouser till I was 16 and I'm not a Manc either

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 17:42

Posted by: Owd Codger (4360)

tonker

My apologies as I forgot that people now living in the St Helen Council area which is now part of Merseyside don't like being called scousers.

I should have simply asked mucker, Higher End or Chapel End!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 18:28

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

If you were brought up in Bryn (and that’s just a fictitious place) you’re from Ashton in Makerfield. Regardless of where you “went”.

I “went” everywhere, but I grew up in Haydock!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 18:33

Posted by: muckus (39)

I'm not divisive and picking sides. The Balmers came from Higher End, but they moved about and are buried at Birchley St Mary's (they are on record as being one of the original sponsors). One of them lived in Rant for a time because he fell out with his father and he married a Melling. When I was little, all Billinge was full of locals speaking 'Billinge dialect' and there were no estates.

As I said, I don't recognise any post 1970's changes, there are Wigan and St Helens only. The other two places are miles away and of no concern to me

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 18:50

Posted by: muckus (39)

Bryn isn't fictitious, why do you say that? (I only lived there from age 5)

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 19:26
Last edited by muckus: 14th May 2025 at 19:45:05

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Wasn’t Aggie’s on Warrington Road, in Ashton?

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 19:40

Posted by: muckus (39)

It was, we used to sneak out of Edmund Arrowsmith at lunchtime and eat them in area above the stage in the assembly hall, no one looked there.

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 19:47

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

Never heard of it!
That is, until I was about 35, and my cousin married a girl from next door to it.
Do you want me to tell you why Bryn isn’t a real place?

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 19:53

Posted by: muckus (39)

Yes please, I'm curious

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 20:11

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

The name of the town is Ashton in Makerfield. Has been since 1086.
One of the Gerards, in the 14th century, was given an estate of land. In Ashton in Makerfield.
He named his estate, ‘Bryn Park’, Bryn for short.
It stretched from the A49, Park Road, Ashton, (named after Bryn park), to Bolton Road, Ashton.
Both ends of his estate were gated. Land Gate and Bryn Gate.
That was ‘Bryn’.
The name has now been adopted, slowly but surely, to include the surrounding area, but it has no official boundaries, because it isn’t an official place.
There is, nowadays, a local authority electoral area (a ward) named Bryn. It has marked boundaries, but it’s not a ‘place’.
It’s all Ashton in Makerfield.

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 20:34

Posted by: muckus (39)

Ha Ha, fair enough, can't argue with that, I've seen it before.

I'd rather be from Billinge or Ashton anyway

I thought you were going to debate what is a 'real place' in terms of nominalism vs realism

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 21:18

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

It’s like Leigh and St. Helens. They don’t exist either.
Anyway, I’m going to bed now. I can’t keep my eyes open any longer!

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 22:07

Posted by: muckus (39)

I get what you mean ...

Replied: 14th May 2025 at 22:18

Posted by: jathbee (11696)

We had a song about Rathbones bread when I was young.
Rathbones delightful bread.
Feels like lead.
No bloody wonder you F**t like thunder.
With Rathbones delightful bread.
The last time I did try a sandwich made from that bread, it was awful. It wasn't at my house either.

Replied: 15th May 2025 at 19:25

Posted by: tonker (29655) 

The song went …..

Eating Rathbone’s bread,
your shit’s like lumps of lead,
you fart like thunder,
no bloody wonder,
eating Rathbone’s bread!

Replied: 15th May 2025 at 20:48

 

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