Photo-a-Day  (Friday, 19th June, 2020)

No idea, but could have been an old steam engine shunting coal about.

White Lion was an old mineral tank engine for the coal pit around Haigh and used the Whelly line to and from Rose Bridge sidings.

I may be totally wrong here, but I once read then even though the red rose is considered the emblem of Lancashire because of the Tudors, it is actually the White Lion that is the traditional emblem of the Dukes of Lancaster... it was his battle standard.

Originally there were two pubs, the Railway had some bad subsidence because of the coal mining, so they knocked it down and then merged the name with the White Lion.

Its all revealed in a plaque in the beer garden to the rear of the pub
The Earl of Balcarres whilst fighting at the crusades brought a prized White Lion back home to Haigh Hall with him and kept it as pet for many a year – whilst out walking on his estate it became involved with a chase and fight with a large wild boar which culminated in its death close to the lodge at Plantation Gates – both Lion and Boar are buried in a grave at the rear of the pub hence its original name the ‘Lion and Boar’, but the later title was dropped when the railway came along – on the third Saturday in July all the regulars hold a ceremonial dance around the grave whilst dressed as Knights as a tribute to the Lion, and then go on a drunken rampage around Scholes pillaging... finishing of with a quiet game of chess in the Legion

1838 Todd tank steam engine is called the White Line and did haul the Lancashire Union railway. Small duties mineral or iron from top lock.

Dennis - could there have been a White Lion pub on the site before the Whelley Loop, and the 'Railway' bit was added afterwards?
Most White Lion pubs in this area take their name from the Holland family, who had a white lion emblem. They got up to all sorts of antics in the Wigan area, in the 13th and 14th centuries.

Scholes Malc, that’s a brilliant story. I don’t know if it’s true but I don’t care. It’ll do for me.

White Lion not white line.

once again Dennis, brilliant photo owd lad. I think it was called White Lion because it did a ROARING trade back then.

scholes malc whot a load of rubbish but good effort

Scholes Malc. That's a load of nonsense dreamed up by a brewery PR man.
The Earls of Balcarres had nothing to do with the Haigh estate until the 1780s, when a member of the family married one of the Bradshaighs of Haigh.
That was over 550 years after the last crusade was fought.

WALT trade was very poor back then. I'll go with train engine.

I think Dennis is right in saying the Red Rose came about because of Henry 7th' s will to find a symbol to counter the Yorkist White , but I believe the Lancastrian emblem during the Wars of the Roses was a SS collar .

The White Lion pub in Up Holland refers to the lion on the coat of arms of the Holland Family who were Lords of the Manor in medieval times.

I think Scholes Malc as been under the influence of a few shades of Monty Python, or maybe just under the influence. It made me laugh though.

He most definitely has, Dennis!

Only place you can get a sherry and nobody's started yet, maybe its to early in the day.

I'll imagine it will be around thirty years ago when a former landlord of this pub was turfed out by the brewery who was wanting to do a re-vamp, anyhow in revenge he came back one night and smashed every window in the pub, I did know his name at the time, though I can't recall it now, maybe someone shall remember.

Welcome back Cyril

Someone mention Sherry!

You go behind the bar Garry and serve the sherry's , me and Irene would like them in the 'snug'...