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Photo-a-Day  (Tuesday, 22nd September, 2015)

LMS Scots Guardsman


LMS Scots Guardsman
LMS Royal Scot Class 7P no 46115 Scots Guardsman - Wigan North Western 17th September 2015 on The Lakes Express.

Photo: Dave (Oy)  (Nikon D800 with Nikon 24-70mm F/2.8 AF-S G )
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Comment by: Ken R on 22nd September 2015 at 01:05

Absolutely beautiful, I could look at these locomotives all day.
Thanks.

Comment by: Dennis Miller on 22nd September 2015 at 05:15

I think this went through Penrith station at speed later in the day, a glorious sight. We were on our way home and the camera was packed away so I missed the shot.

Comment by: Colin Harlow on 22nd September 2015 at 07:35

Nice to see the loco in Brunswick Green. Built in 1927 by the North British Locomotive Company in Glasgow, and starred in the film Night Mail in 1936. British Engineering at it's best. Looks like it's hauling Caledonian Coaches that was mainly used on the London to Glasgow run some years ago.
Another great shot, Dave.

Comment by: Mick on 22nd September 2015 at 09:25

I dont get these numbers on the platforms 1 2 3 4 5 because when the train turns up they are A B C D E and if the train is on its way back down from Glasgow it can be E D C B A

Comment by: maggie on 22nd September 2015 at 09:30

Thank you so much for the happy memories I have of railway journeys I did when a child.

Comment by: Garry on 22nd September 2015 at 10:03

It's BR Green not Bruswick green.

Comment by: guess who on 22nd September 2015 at 11:10

International colour system No. RAL6007 – ‘Bottle Green’. An extremely similar shade is ‘Deep Bronze Green’, produced by Willamsons of Ripon, and that is now accepted by many enthusiasts as the best match available.

Comment by: PeterP on 22nd September 2015 at 11:12

Mick I have not used a train for a while but are the numbers for approx. where the carriages should stop for say reserved seating?

Comment by: Alex on 22nd September 2015 at 11:22

Up and Down or NOT the same platform Mick, you understand.

Comment by: Thomas(Tom)Walsh. on 22nd September 2015 at 11:42

Fantastic ! Thank you Dave.

Comment by: Agin on 22nd September 2015 at 11:42

Wiki says this stars in 'Night Mail'
However, credits on sleeve of VHS say it is 'Seaforth Highlander.

The only time you can see the number, it is'5513' (unnamed).

The loco change at Crewe: a nameplate definitely visible.

Loco being cleaned down at finish: can read is Seaforth Highlander.

I wonder if shots of more than one train are edited together in this film?

Comment by: Anne on 22nd September 2015 at 11:53

Garry... Do you mean British racing green as in the days countries teams were recognised by colour in F1.

Comment by: Agin on 22nd September 2015 at 12:11

See link below concerning paint colour:

http://www.railwaymagazine.co.uk/news/br-never-had-brunswick-green-locomotives

Comment by: Aubrey on 22nd September 2015 at 12:49

Great photo Dave.

Comment by: Dave (Oy) on 22nd September 2015 at 17:07

Thanks to those that said nice things :)

Comment by: Peter on 22nd September 2015 at 17:15

Nice photo dave
Pity it didn't stop for you
Master of the lucky shot eh?

Comment by: Mick on 22nd September 2015 at 18:05

Ah but Peter the carriages are not numbered they have letters, and heading north you might get the first class at the front, and heading south it will be at the back,

And the A B Cs become C B As

Comment by: Alan (Vancouver Island) on 22nd September 2015 at 18:19

What a magnificent sight. I've got this picture as my screen-saver now.

Comment by: John Morris on 22nd September 2015 at 19:12

Great shot Dave, I saw it coming through but had the wrong camera. The Fuji X Pro1 couldn't cope with the speed at which it came through. It really was belting along.

Comment by: Dave (Oy) on 22nd September 2015 at 19:52

John - if I was shooting this with an X-Pro1 I'd pre-focus in manual and select an aperture that would give me some leeway. If, like most X-Pro 1 folk, you have the 18mm F2 - then F5.6 would be plenty.

Comment by: Garry on 22nd September 2015 at 20:20

No Burnswick Green, Ann.

Comment by: Garry on 22nd September 2015 at 20:33

It don't look in steam, John Morris. I would have thought it was stopped looking at it.

Comment by: Alex on 22nd September 2015 at 20:36

P101 is the green colour code for BR, Burnswick green is the same match.

Comment by: Sulzer on 22nd September 2015 at 23:31

It's being pushed by a 2500HP diesel Garry. That's why ;)

Comment by: Ivor Biggun on 22nd September 2015 at 23:42

and the station announcements tell you how many coaches, ie, 9 or 11 coach pendolino, not rocket science

Comment by: Mick on 23rd September 2015 at 05:14

Ivor the station announcements can tell you anything it wants, but it still dosent tell you where coach A will stop.
I could guess that if coach A is going to be at the back of train that I would need to be stand on the platform some where near to the where I think it is going to stop, but its much harder to guess where any of the other coaches will stop this is why when the train stops you have passengers running up and down the platform trying to find there coach.
And seeing that the train only stops for 60 seconds then starts pipping passengers are told to just jump on any coach then walk down the packed train pulling a suit case looking for there seats.
Another thing is first class can be at the front or at the back, and if its at the back, the first class passengers have to walk all the way down the platform when there reach there destinations.
This is wrong and if I was traveling first class regularly I would be complaining to Virgin about it.
This is why I originally said I dont get these numbers on the platforms and I will add if it was a Japanese railway station the train would stop at exactly the same spot every time, so if you stood at the platform number of your coach that is where your coach door will be.

Comment by: painter on 23rd September 2015 at 11:32

Alex,

P101 is not a colour code, it is a paint code used by 'Phoenix Precision' Paints, which they suggest model makers use to represent post 1954 'locomotive Green'British Railways Livery.

link:
http://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/about-us/faqs.html

Comment by: Ivor Biggun on 23rd September 2015 at 13:58

Mick, coach A is 1, B2, C3 etc, first class is usually at the front going south, Rear going North, the infomation screens on the platform state this quite clearly, as for first class passengers i feel really sorry for them having to walk all that way, but if they are going the other way they dont need to, London bound they are right at the front at Euston, then they wont get indigestion from their prawn sandwiches

Comment by: Mick on 23rd September 2015 at 16:52

First class should always be at the front, at one time it was.
And I know that A is 1, B2, C3 but it still get complicated when you get into the higher numbers, and when you only have one minute to board the train it can all go wrong.
And when Im catching the train non of the carriage doors ever line up with the platform numbers.

Comment by: John Morris on 23rd September 2015 at 22:07

Mick, Ivor is correct the first class coaches are at the front heading south and therefore at the rear heading north. The train is a set of coaches with a cab at each end they do not turn the train round when it get to London, they simply run it the other way! As far as I know they never did change the order of the coaches, even in the days of steam when they turned the locomotive round on a turntable.

Comment by: Mick on 24th September 2015 at 05:38

I know all that John but its still confusing with them being out of order.
And in the old days the first class was always at the front and carriages would have there numbers printed on cards that could be swooped over at there turn around stops.
But I still say why have numbers painted on the platforms that dont line up with the carriage doors, and when the train stops all the waiting passengers start to run up and down the platform looking for there carriages.

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