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Photo-a-Day  (Saturday, 21st April, 2012)

Ince Cemetery Chapel


Ince Cemetery Chapel
One of a pair designed by Alfred Waterhouse.

Photo: Andrew Fishburn  (Canon EOS 5D)
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Comment by: Ken R on 21st April 2012 at 00:02

Looks like a scene from a Dracula movie.

Comment by: alan on 21st April 2012 at 00:15

Crosses leaning over......dark, foreboding sky....just the backdrop for a ghost story. Let's all meet there after dark.

Comment by: Janice on 21st April 2012 at 02:52

Great photo Andrew - recognised your style before I saw the name.

Comment by: Fred Mason on 21st April 2012 at 04:11

Very moody, very Gothic looking photo, Andrew.

Well done.

Comment by: Ron D on 21st April 2012 at 08:44

Not nice, but good photography. Very dramatic.

Comment by: Dave Marsh on 21st April 2012 at 08:58

Wigan could be The Hollywood of U.K.

Comment by: Mac on 21st April 2012 at 09:38

Best pic on here for many a year.
Excellent snap, Andrew.

Comment by: john on 21st April 2012 at 09:51

Stunning to say the least Andrew,
PRO SHOT ,

would look great in Monochrome XP2

Comment by: peterp on 21st April 2012 at 10:06

good themed photo.Sign of the times crosses took down to make them safe

Comment by: Freda on 21st April 2012 at 10:17

What a pity it's in this state - I may have indexed the burials in there so that people can find their ancestors, - but how do people find the relevant graves.??
Does anyone know if there are any plans to improve it.?

Comment by: A Bolton on 21st April 2012 at 10:21

Did someone vandalise the graves?

Comment by: Cyril on 21st April 2012 at 12:39

Wonderful photo Andrew, the details are so very crisp and clear.

A Bolton. in answer to your question, yes Wigan Council vandalised the graves all in the name of 'elf & safety, bureaucracy gone power mad.

Comment by: Mick on 21st April 2012 at 12:42

Its touched up.

Comment by: Rev David Long on 21st April 2012 at 13:25

Very atmospheric shot, Andrew. Well done.
The wikipedia entry for Waterhouse now includes my long-held assertion that the Ince Cemetery buildings were probably his first major public commission:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Waterhouse
All the more reason to regret the present sorry state of the two chapels. A bit of clearing-up and making safe has taken place in recent weeks but, sadly, their long-term future must be in doubt. What use could be made of two small chapels, with no services, in the middle of a tightly-packed graveyard?
The lowered crosses and other stones is regrettable - but families could have had work carried out themselves to ensure they were safe - but perhaps they couldn't be contacted. I don't think it is disrespectful of the dead to protect the living, even if it is from the consequences of their own actions.
As for locating graves, Freda, I have used the results of your hard work to find a number of graves here since it went online. Unfortunately, it is not always straightforward. Not all stonemasons mark the stone with its section letter and grave number (where there is a gravestone - the lack of which is, of course, a bit of a problem in itself). So it can take a bit of walking up and down - and a few fresh visits to your site, using neighbouring graves to help pin-point a grave.
The gravediggers have a plan showing each grave - but I think you have to go to the office in town to consult it, and there may be a charge - and it helps if you note down the names on the plots around your target.

Comment by: rebian on 21st April 2012 at 13:31

Great pic, saw it the other week but it still looks as good now.

Comment by: wcml on 21st April 2012 at 14:10

super photo again andrew,well done

Comment by: Carol on 21st April 2012 at 15:44

Fantastic photo. So atmospheric.

Comment by: Janice on 21st April 2012 at 16:26

Mick - you old grump - rather than 'touched up' it think it is a very competent use of HDR. Touched up. HDR or not, it is an excellent photgraph.

Comment by: Fert on 21st April 2012 at 18:42

Wonderful photograph. I feel I must point out the reason for the (nationwide) implementation of testing and laying down of some memorials - referred to as "Elf and Safety" and authority interference. A child was killed by a collapsing stone. I know this as it was my friend's husband and herself who ran to help the child and struggled lifting the stone off him. True, it took a tragedy for it to occur to someone that memorials should be audited and stress tested.

Comment by: Ellen on 21st April 2012 at 20:16

Whether it's touched up or not,it's an amazingly good picture. I agree with all of the above favorable statements. ....Really spooky!!

Comment by: Jean F (Wales) on 21st April 2012 at 21:14

Great picture Andrew ,So creepy but so real.Made me shudder when I first saw it !

Comment by: Dennis Miller on 22nd April 2012 at 04:24

Very very nice... one of the best I have seen on here.

Rev Long, I am not sure of the correct name for such a building... but they could be converted to hold funeral urns in sealed wall niches. Maybe not very practical, but it would be good if some use was found for them rather then we lose them.

Comment by: Rev David Long on 22nd April 2012 at 13:34

Dennis, if someone could produce a business case which would show that the income from such a scheme would fund the chapels' restoration and future maintenance, that could save them from being left to get to the stage where they have to be demolished because they've become unsafe.
Maybe a couple of wealthy, local philanthropists could pay for their restoration so that they could serve as their families' mausoleums....
Anyone know anyone vain enough?

Comment by: Jimmy G on 22nd April 2012 at 15:40

Great photo,looks like a shot from
one of the old Hammer horror films.

Comment by: Mick on 22nd April 2012 at 16:04

Instead of hoping for a local philanthropists why not ask the people of Ince to donate towards there restoration.

Comment by: wcml on 22nd April 2012 at 18:10

why is there only incers buried there mick!.

Comment by: Bill Eatock on 22nd April 2012 at 18:18

Fantastic photo! I'd love to live in such a creepy location.

Comment by: Rev David Long on 22nd April 2012 at 20:27

You can, Bill! The Cemetery Lodge is up for sale:
http://www.home.co.uk/search/details.htm?property=2338149890

Comment by: Neil Cain on 23rd April 2012 at 07:45

I think Wigan Cemeteries Admin Dept. has moved to the South Lancs Industrial Estate in Bryn. They were always very helpful to me in locating graves in Ince Cemetery.
Breaks my heart to see the chapels as they are. When I think of my great aunt, Sarah Langford of Crow Orchard Terrace on her knees scrubbing the floors I am just glad she can't see them now. Good idea of yours Dennis if it could be made to work.

Comment by: tony on 23rd April 2012 at 11:48

andrew that is amazing, best ever photo on wigan world.

Comment by: Bill Eatock on 23rd April 2012 at 20:49

I've already checked the lodge out, Rev Long. Its gorgeous inside but not far enough into the cemetery. I'd like to be right in amongst the gravestones. I suppose I'll get that wish in the not to distant future when they lay me to rest!

Comment by: Bill eatock on 3rd May 2012 at 09:42

Well... I won't be ending up in the cemetery after all. I've bequeathed my body to Manchester University.
I hope they make better use of it than I have!

Comment by: Sara Morley on 7th May 2012 at 16:33

For Neil Cain:
hello Neil
It was great to read your comment. Sarah Langford was my great grandmother. Her husband John died in 8 Crow Orchard Terrace. She survived him by a long, long time and eventually passed away in Wolverhampton in 1934. My mum remembers her slightly. Do you have any memories you would mind sharing of her please? my email is gw.morley@btinternet.com. Thank you.SARA

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