Wigan Album

So young, so sad and how cruel it was for them. You can see they were mates and joined up together with those regimental numbers. I wonder if my grandfather knew them, he was also at Gallipoli at that time, but was in the Lancashire Fusiliers.
We will remember them and how brave and innocent they were.

Very poignant today David, WE will never forget them, let's hope the young of today are never allowed to forget.

This photo brought a tear to my eye..God bless them all.

A friend of mine had a uncle who was killed by a sniper in gallipoli he was 17 years old . He his remembered in st marys church his name is Jack austin from junction terra ce

So very,very sad.Always need to be remembered for their bravery and willingness to put others first.x

The two lads on the left have a similar look and could be brothers and the lad standing being younger and smiling for the camera, the others have a resolute, but haunted look, as though the realisation of the situation has sunk in. They didn't stand a chance with those Turkish snipers high up above and well hidden in the rock crevices, and I remember many years ago a man telling me that the Turks were dirty fighters.

John Austin is also commemorated on the Ince UDC memorial in the Warrington Road Cemetery - and on a new headstone on a family grave just behind St Mary's church hall.
28 men from Lower Ince were killed at Gallipoli. Most are named on St Mary's memorial - but seven are not, including Pte. Dowd. 19 of those killed were from the 1st/5th Manchesters - 14 are on the memorial, five are not. Nine of the Manchesters died on August 7th 1915.

Last cigarettes behind bags of sand
Below scaling ladders ; amid the bangs
A whistle blows and we're over the top ,
In fifteen seconds as many drop .

Joseph walked in a thunder storm
Of bullet rain , lightning from
The shattering shells illuminate the Turkish line
Far across the mud and mines .

After the Combine has cut the corn ,
One or two stalks in the field remain
Missed by the blades ; the rest lie shorn
On the reaping ground of Suvla Bay .


' Millions of men came to fight in this war and I find it incredible that I am the only one left ' . Harry Patch .

Richard Glover and Joseph Dowd they were cousins and cousin to my grandfather also named Richard Glover.

Could this pic be at Hollingworth lake near Rochdale? The 5th and 7th Battns Manchester Regt were encamped at Hollingworth lake, immediately prior to them embarking for Egypt, and thence to Gallipoli in late 1914. there are a few photos on the web of the men, when they were there.

My Uncle Jack served with the Manchester Regt during W. W. I. He survived the war but unfortunately had a serious leg wound which troubled him for the rest of his life.

Pete - they're in tropical gear, on sand. I'm pretty sure it's in Egypt.
Carol - I was given access to the images by Jack Hurst, whose mother was Richard's younger sister. Have you seen this picture before?

Rev Long, you could well be right. It's just that behind them seems to be a hill, and with grass. There is an identical hill where they were encamped at Hollingworth lake, hence why I asked my question.

Rev Long, yes; I have a copy of the picture, also copies of the letters written by their boyhood friend, work mate and neighbour, Joseph Coyle. He wrote to both their parents from the front. Joe did come home. I have often wondered if Joe is on this picture.