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Platt Bridge
Platt Bridge
Photo: Thomas Sutch
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Item #: 13566
Perhaps the last steam passenger train to pass along the line between Bickershaw junction and Springs Branch. 45305 with Springs Branch driver Brian Dalton at the controls, in the summer of 1968, at Platt Bridge.

Comment by: Dave Taylor on 8th February 2010 at 11:09

Another good one Tom, keep them coming out of the old archives!

Comment by: Kevin Higgins on 8th February 2010 at 11:54

Thomas, is that St.Nathaniel's church behind the train? Any idea why the underpass was being filled in?

Comment by: John on 8th February 2010 at 12:16

Superb picture Tom - love it!

Comment by: mickey on 8th February 2010 at 13:21

I used to go to this spot, hopefully to see a Britannia loco. Good photo.

Comment by: irene roberts nee griffiths on 8th February 2010 at 13:23

Lovely, Tom! Very nostalgic.

Comment by: winder on 8th February 2010 at 13:49

As soon as I saw the thumbnail on the page I thought that will be one of Toms. When the line was laid, some of those underpasses would have been built to allow farmers access to their fields, a mineral line from Low Hall coll passed under that line as well.

Comment by: John on 8th February 2010 at 14:16

Mickey - Brits were my favourite trains !

Comment by: Eric Turner on 8th February 2010 at 15:10

Great photo' Tom. So that is where some of the old slag heaps went, blocking the old gaps. I used to walk from Hindley to Bickershaw Junction iron Bridge,cross the line then take the footpath past the GC flash then go under this blocked bridge to Moss Lane on my way to Springs Branch to collect "Namers", this would be 1939-41' E.T.

Comment by: Tom on 8th February 2010 at 15:39

Kevin, yes it's St Nathaniels church behind the train.
Don't know why they filled the bridge in, another was filled in near Moss Lane school football field about the same time, might be the bridge walls were collapsing.

Comment by: SJB on 8th February 2010 at 16:11

I thought that line had finished passenger services by 1964 and afterwards, between Tyldesley and Springs Branch, it was only used for freight until closure - what service was it running?

Comment by: davey on 8th February 2010 at 19:17

Is this another clockwork train?? There doesn't appear to be any steam or smoke. Similar to other photos.

Comment by: geoff on 8th February 2010 at 22:00

another brilliant photo tom!.lovely clear blue skies.i remeber the eleven something from wigan nw to man exchange sat only i think,was mainly steam hauled.is this the return,or a special?.i remember that engine very well.

Comment by: steve ramsdale on 8th February 2010 at 22:03

This loco survives to this day. Is under repair at the moment
5305la.org.uk

Comment by: Helen on 9th February 2010 at 08:39

Does anyone know where abouts in the country the engine is under repair ?

Comment by: Tom on 9th February 2010 at 08:42

It was a special Geoff, just before the last steam one in August that year from Liverpool.
No steam or smoke,that's a good Springs Branch fireman, when the train is just coasting, isn't it Geoff !

Comment by: Tom on 9th February 2010 at 09:08

Helen, the boiler is under repair at Tyseley Locomotive Works, the rest ( frames and tender ) are at the Great Central Railway at Loughborough.It's owned by Albert Draper and Sons, and maintained and operated by the 5305 Locomotive Association.It also now as a name, Alderman A E Draper, after the man who saved it from scrap.

Comment by: COLIN HARLOW on 9th February 2010 at 16:39

Great photo Thomas, lovely shot of the last days of steam by BR and indeed that August month of 1968. The train is almost approaching Liverpool Road, Platt Bridge and the driver Brian will almost certainly be applying the brakes at this point, thats one reason there is no steam and smoke. Lovely sunny blue skies, great shot of the embankment aswell.

Comment by: dave dalton on 9th February 2010 at 19:43

BrianDalton is my dad, i asked him about the photo and he says he was applying the brakes at the time.
He did that run a few times during the years before he went on to disel loco`s

Comment by: geoff on 9th February 2010 at 20:55

no smoke and nice and clean.but then again i was,nt the fireman tom.it really is a very nice photo.

Comment by: John B on 9th February 2010 at 21:18

What a smart looking 'proper' train !

Comment by: COLIN HARLOW on 10th February 2010 at 10:09

Davey, If you click on to Assorted and then Passenger Train, you will see another great phtograph taken in 1964, by Thomas Sutch. It shows the same type of engine heading towards Tyldesley, it could possibly be Brian Dalton.
There is plenty of steam and smoke after leaving Springs Branch.

Comment by: Rev David Long on 10th February 2010 at 10:46

A parishioner (ex-Springs Branch fireman)told me this morning that he and his wife are booked to board behind the Scots Guardsman (46115) at Wigan NW on Saturday at 9am - going via the WCML to Golborne and thence to Manchester.

Comment by: Springer6 on 17th February 2010 at 17:44

Re "Scots Guardsman". On 13 Feb 2010. I saw it steam through Springs Branch at 09:04 from my old train spotting place of 50 years ago, a wall on Cemetery Road Lower Ince.
Unforntunately the locomotive's middle cylinder failed between Golbourne and Eccles. It had to be towed into Manchester by a diesel and thence to Carnforth.
The second failure of this loco in a month ( first time it was vacuum brake failure at Preston) was very disappointing, especially for those who had paid £160 per ticket!

Comment by: david harlow on 28th February 2010 at 00:07

i see davey dont know much about trains no smoke or steam lol

Comment by: Geoff K on 21st July 2010 at 02:48

Casting my mind back 50 years, there were 7 such bridges between St Nats and the GC flash, one of them having a stream running under it.
Just under the other bridge (in front of the loco) someone may recall the large hen pen on the left, owned by my grandad Ted K ynaston, who lived at 22 Church Road, the chimneys of which are just visible.

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