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I'll go for Cliff Watson.

this is saints v swinton krn halliwell prop on the right
hand side.

Is that Johnny Stopford making the tackle??

The player on the extreme right looks like Derek Clarke - he once lived about 150yds from me, in Billinge.

Ken halliwell

The three swinton players are Derek Clarke.ken halliwell, Harold bate cliff Watson is the st Helens player on his feet ken halliwell would be the guest player

St Helens recruited Cliff Watson from the Midlands RU club Kingswinford. He certainly was a tough operator and enjoyed a distinguished International career as well as success at St Helens. The story I heard, but cannot verify, was that he would enjoy a steak and chips meal shortly before a match, anathema to most athletes but not Cliff. He went to live in Australia and played with distinction for Cronulla. He would come over with his wife for visits. Sadly he died last year at the age of 78, leaving a wife and three daughters.

Well done to all concerned.
The man in question was Ken Halliwell.

Ian, wasn't John Mc Donald, the referee, involved with running Springfield A.R.L.F.C. at one time?

I am sure Ken played for Heinz RU team at one time.

Tuddy I think his brother was involved not sure about john

Yes John McDonald was involved. As were his brothers Wilf and Gerry. Three great stalwarts of the club.
Broady. When I was at Heinz Ken was a red band there. They used to have a rugby league team but I can't recall them having a rugby union side there. I started in 1982 and the rugby team had ceased to be then. They had a football team though.

Ian, It was probably the 70's. I was playing for Wigan Tech and I am 99% sure he played. As a matter of fact he got a gruesome looking ankle break if I remember correctly.

I remember playing against Ken Halliwell in the Ken Gee Cup in 1969. He was guesting for South Lancs Boring Club, while our team was Cardinal Newman Old Boys (even though I went to John Rigby!). I played centre alongside John Whittle, who signed for Wigan after the match. Our guest playing at loose forward was a certain Terry Dunne!

What's a red band?

Red band / Red collar was a foreman. The collar on their overalls was red. Where as the people who worked on the shop floor had a plain white collar. Green collar was quality control. I think they used to havr blue collars but that was before I started.

This is my grandad Ken Halliwell

Yes this was my Brother Ken, along with teammates Derek Clark and Harold Bate.

Hi Ian where did you get the photo from, from Kens brother Steve

Hello Stephen. You will be Ken junior's uncle? I remember young Ken from Heinz. Also I played in the same team as him. He could shift a bit! Very pacey.
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