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Green Brothers.
Green Brothers.
Photo: Martin Mercer
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Item #: 2245
The group shot was taken early in WW1 and is of Maria and Thomas Penny and some of their sons about to leave for war. Maria Smith (Wigan, 1865 - 1937) married Frederick Green (Wigan, 1863 - 1904), then later married Thomas Penny (b1859 in West Bromwich, Staffs). This was also Thomas' second marriage, and at the time of their wedding he had 5 children and Maria had 8!

The young soldier on the left at the back was one of the Penny boys, either John or William.

The one standing centre was William Green (1888 - 1957), the one standing behind Maria was James Green (1886 - 1957) and the one seated was Fred Green (1896 - 1974 my wife's grandfather). Fred spent his entire working life down the pit - with only a trip to war for a break!

Incidentally, one of the Green brothers who is not in the picture is Walter Green, father of the Walter Green who started Green's Carpets.

Comment by: elizabeth (margaret finch)nee Green on 11th January 2008 at 16:50

did they all survive the war

Comment by: Carol on 15th February 2008 at 11:03

Yes, all four survived. As you will see from the original comment Bill and Jim Green both died in 1957 and Fred Green died in 1974. John Pennydied in 1940 aged 44.

My grandfather was Jim Green (standing behind Maria) and he was gassed in 1917. He was hospitalised and then sent to a convalenscent home in Southport for a couple of years. Altogether though he had 7 years of treatment for the gas.

Comment by: citor on 24th April 2008 at 02:57

Are any of these Greens related to the Ellen Green who married Jon Orrell?

Comment by: Carol on 24th April 2008 at 13:25

No. There were two sisters, Ellen and Elizabeth. Ellen married Thomas Podmore in 1911.

Comment by: Kay Dee on 14th September 2024 at 17:31

I am the granddaughter of Fred Green, Wigan, England. Just wondering what relatives are still alive.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 21st September 2024 at 12:00

Kay, Greens Carpets are still going, their Showroom is in Martland Mill.
You might try Googling them or contacting them direct for further information:
Greens Carpets
Horton Street
Martland Mill
Wigan WN6 7TF
Tel: 01942 245141
Over the last forty years we have always bought our carpets and rugs from them, very reliable people.

Comment by: Veronica on 22nd September 2024 at 14:23

How lucky they were to survive. My grandfather and 3 brothers survived but a fifth the youngest was killed at Paschendael a year before the war ended. .

Comment by: winnie on 23rd September 2024 at 09:50

Name Frederick Green
Age 37
Estimated Birth Year abt 1864
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Spouse Maria Green
Birth Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Wigan Address 9 Neville Street Frederick Green 37 Head ( In 1901) Coal Hewer
Maria Green 34 Wife
James Green 14 Son Labourer in Coal Mine
William Green 12 Son
Ellen Green 9 Daughter
Elizabeth Green 7 Daughter
Frederick Green 5 Son
Walter Green 2 Son
Alfred Grimwood 38 Boarder Forgeman at Wagonworks
John McDonough 26 Boarder Coal miner Hewer

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