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Back of our old house
Back of our old house
Photo: dk
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Item #: 16391
This is the back side of what was our old house in Belle Green Lane and in this state it's not the prettiest backside you’ve ever seen. If the treasured photos that people have put on this site have prompted one thought it must be the - I wish I'd taken a photo of the such and such.......at the time… and, in my case, it's usually quite ordinary things that spring to mind - shops and streets – oh, and the black tank! Whilst so much has gone for ever, and this row of buildings is no exception, at least I did take the picture as a deliberate attempt to preserve the memory. The photo was taken about 1980 just prior to the demolition of the row and although I’m certain mi Mam wouldn’t have been best pleased to see this here I think it’s worth a look at for the sake of backyard posterity.

This house was opposite the Oak Tree Pub, which is still standing, of course, and it changed its number mysteriously in the late sixties. For those intimate with the area it was next door but one to John’s shop, and the big backyard was an open communal space of shared washing line posts bordered by the backs of this terrace and the terraces of Chatham Street and West Street with a dividing wall running the length. We’d relations in both of the adjoining streets. Joe Pearson’s elder tree claimed the corner spec in the sunshine on our half.

Number 89 is listed in the Ince Directory as being occupied by a steelworker. A fairly common job, I suppose, on account of the top place. I’m guessing that in about 1925 it became home to my Great Grandad and thence in turn to my Grandad – both colliery workers - and finally to us for a period of about fifteen years. Over the course of this time it has seen its share of grim days and deaths and joyous, good times and births. My Grandad nursed his Mother with her bed removed into in the front room, commode and all, and he himself passed away in his own bed. When age and infirmity struck the blow or a child was in need it was the way of things that someone in the family would ‘see to’ them. Perhaps also, it was the way of things then that both ends of life would take place in the home.

The outside lavvy was a later, posh addition to the two-up two-down standard mid-terrace and the coal bunker an even later attempt at modernisation. There was a chimney in the corner in the back room but no fireplace, nothing in the way of heating in the back bedroom and a bricked up fireplace in the front bedroom, but, the front room held pride of place with a great black range and the capacity to load about a bag of coal at a time and bake half the street. If you worked in the pit you got concessionary coal. You got it when it came. You got it whether you needed it or not. And, you got it whether you were in or not. It was handy to be in when half a ton of coal arrived for they would empty it straight int coal hole, that is, undert stairs. It’s easy to forget how far a bit of coal dirt can get. My Grandad, working alternate earlies and afternoons, would miss the coalman once a month and be treated to ten bags tipped in a pile int little backyard and have to shovel and bucket this miniature mountain int coal hole. It’s just what you want after a shift down the shaft digging it out!

Coming later, to the Sixties and Seventies and my own childhood, things had changed, but not that much. We still had the coal range but now for the back kitchen we’d a paraffin heater with a parabolic reflector. I could fill it, clean it, prime it and trim the wick by the time I was eight, although I still don’t know what a parabolic reflector is. We had big jumpers and rough army blankets for the bedroom central heating. In winter, the back wall, pictured, would allow water through and the internal walls which were painted in dirty green distemper and ragged with pale pink flowers glistened with moisture. The petty would be frozen both in the lead-lined, wooden cistern and in the bowl and we would have to smash the ice and light a little piece of firelighter in a tin lid in the corner to try to warm things up a bit. You had to watch it that the ripped up squares of newspaper hanging on a nail by the string didn’t catch alight. I jest not!

I have to make mention of the fence. Or, the attempt at a fence. Or, the two attempts at a fence. We’d a dog of the mongrel breed. He was one of few of this pedigree over the years but this particular one was daft and I mean daft. The fence was a piece of plywood just nailed up and was intended to hem him in. The dog had wider horizons than this and longer legs. He just vaulted over it. And so, as the dog grew up the fence grew up a bit at a time as well, even if it was never quick enough and never high enough - the supply of plywood was at a premium not to mention nails. Now, when most adolescent pups do a runner they have one thing on their mind – women. But, not in this case. The target of the dog’s affections wasn’t another dog. Fuelled by his belly and drawn by his nose, he had located Sutcliffe’s tripe works only two backs away behind the Belle Green Pub and discovered it was possible to filch the odd bit of offal. More than once he had returned covered in slime and dragging a cow’s leg and smiling. Well, not a full cow’s leg but the bit from the hoof to the knee. That’s a substantial enough bone for any dog to tackle let alone to drag two hundred yards up the backs whilst being chased by an assortment of other hungry pooches. And, the fun didn’t end when he had gained the relative sanctuary of the little backyard…..

…..mostly, on the boring bus home from school with a head awhirl with sums and homework, I would think about chips and mushy peas wi’ loads of salt and vinegar. It was like comfort eating but lasted longer ‘cos the bus took ages. What you don’t need when you walk in is “….dog’s bint tripe works again…” shattering the anticipation and encroaching upon the delicate aroma of the bubbling peas. Ultimately, I totally abandoned all attempts at diplomacy in this situation. I had totally abandoned all attempts at keeping mi school pants clean as well…..

…..so we had a stare off. Each poised in opposite corners of the yard. Lip curled, teeth bared and salivating wildly and the dog wasn’t too happy either. He simply refused to negotiate. The only thing to be done was to dive in and wrestle it out of its jaws. It wasn’t a dangerous approach ‘cos the dog would never bite. Not that it could with a gobful of leg, but it wouldn’t let go either and you’d just get covered in slime and slaver. By the time the cow’s leg was safely stashed in the bottom of the bin with the lid weighed down with a brick, there was bits of tripe in your hair and up your nose and everywhere. The only cure was a good wash down int tin bath – both of us. It took the edge off your appetite……..

Finally, there is a confession to be signed about the broken window. Well, ok then, two confessions. The downstairs one was done with a catty and murp from the outside. The back bedroom one was done from the inside with a catty and a ball bearing which went berserk, bouncing around the room and ricocheting around, somewhat dully, off the damp walls. In both instances the catty went off while I was cleaning it. No, mi Mam didn’t believe it either. I got a right belt.

That’s the end of this lamentable and possibly over long description of t’back of our ‘ouse. A lament it surely is. But I’m not sure just what it’s a lament for: perhaps for the outside WC and the weeping walls? For the tin bath on the back kitchen floor with a clog under the narrow end to tip it up a bit and save hot water and floating soap scum? For the coal ‘ole and the occasional mouse? For the cockies that moved in when the rest of the row was deserted and we were last to move out? For the Green Flash pumps hanging off the line? For filling next door’s bin up with water when they wouldn’t give us our ball back? For mi Mam’s mushy peas and home-made meyt and prater pies? For the smell of paraffin? For the smell of a wet, tripey dog? For the smell of mi Grandad’s flat cap? For innocence? For carefree days? For cared-for days?

Looking back, (through the shin bone of a cow?) I really don’t know what it’s a lament for. Even the perishing petty didn’t seem that bad at the time. We never looked back then. We never looked forward. We just looked around.

Here is a true lament to end with. It was taught to me when I was about seven with the gently wicked humour of a pitman. Or, perhaps, with the gentle, wicked humour of an Incer. Maybe, it was made up or, maybe, others will have heard it. I know not.

(For those of a sensitive nature the end of the thing is never actually pronounced…..)



Old King Cole – Ince Style


Old King Cole was a merry old soul
And a merry old soul was he.
He called for a light
In the middle of the night
To go to the WC.

The moon shone on the petty wall.
The candle took a fit.
And Old King Cole
Fell down the hole
And he got covered in !!!!


Comment by: Christine Ward. on 24th November 2010 at 21:47

I hope you come back to see the comments. That was a very entertaining article and I so enjoyed it. You should be writing a book.Many thanks.

Comment by: Mick on 25th November 2010 at 00:50

Lovely stuff, DK.

Comment by: al on 25th November 2010 at 01:29

fantastic!! cheers dk.

Comment by: Bluechieftain2 on 25th November 2010 at 07:55

This is the best bit of writing, bar none, that I nave seen anywhere on this site. Detailed and wonderfully evocative, but far from romanticised, it spares the reader nothing. A tough upbringing, but how character-forming.

Thank you for providing such an interesting and moving piece!

Comment by: Helen on 25th November 2010 at 08:03

Yes, I think a bit more of this would do us all good & sober some folk up....the 60's were really not that long ago !
Great stuff, thanks dk.

Comment by: irene roberts on 25th November 2010 at 11:02

This is certainly not "overlong", dk...it is wonderful! I was in fits laughing about the dog. My friend's grandad was Jimmy Cain who kept the pie shop at 10, Belle Green Lane before it became Ashurst's ,and I lived in In ce Green Lane, and how we would love to see those buildings again. You did the right thing taking the photo when you did, and your accompanying story is a joy... Thankyou.

Comment by: Syd on 25th November 2010 at 12:24

"We never looked back, we never looked forward, we just looked around"!
What a sensational use of words to reflect an era long since past, just fabulous.

Comment by: Pat van Vliet on 25th November 2010 at 13:50

I so enjoyed reading that! my dad was a miner and we had a coal-house where sometimes a mouse jumped out (needless to say I never got a shovel of coal). We really don't realise sometimes how well-off we are today - great memories though!

Comment by: janet on 25th November 2010 at 14:47

I so 'Totally' enjoyed reading that, it is wonderful. I laughed at parts and cried at parts because it brought back memories of my own chilhood, poor as we were, it was still a happy childhood.. Good job dk.. great stuff!!!!

Comment by: Jimmy on 25th November 2010 at 14:54

Whose are the white pumps on the washing line derek ?

Comment by: Halsall on 25th November 2010 at 15:53

I realy enjoyed that dk, i was born in Engineer street, it brought back some lovey memories. you write beautifuly, you and another member on here namely Irene, could write a book.

Comment by: irene on 25th November 2010 at 16:11

Thankyou, Halsall!

Comment by: Graham Taylor on 25th November 2010 at 17:03

Well done dk, a lot of people will relate to your article with nostalgia and fond memories of living in back to back terraces.

Comment by: irene roberts on 25th November 2010 at 17:06

Can anyone tell me which category this photo is under on the Album? I am trying to pass the info on to my friend, but I can't find it on Sreet Scenes, Places or Assorted.Thanks.

Comment by: Maureen Andrews nee McGovern on 25th November 2010 at 17:08

That is a lovely story dk..our back yard was so similar to yours it's uncanny...and what with my memories and the similarities to your childhood I'm sat here with a lump in my throat...happy days.

Comment by: Brian on 25th November 2010 at 18:01

irene, its under People -> Backyard studio

Comment by: marylou on 25th November 2010 at 18:36

Just brilliant! could listen/read stories like this all day, every day. You're spot on about the 'cared for' bit, think thats our problem today, always hankering for better or posher....and not actually caring for what we have and are. Its proper made me smile :-D

Comment by: Ged on 25th November 2010 at 19:10

Laugh, i nearly P--d, I loved that story because i can relate to some of it, but we didn't have a tripe works in our area.

Comment by: Moz on 25th November 2010 at 19:57

Read this whilst at work today and it brightened up my day, a wonderful, imaginately put account of your days gone by, resurrected by what is such a simple shot of your Backyard. As a seventies child, this passed me by, but I certainly have an appreciation of how life was like for my dad's family who lived just up the road in Higher Ince in Battersby Street at the time. Thanks for such an interesting insight.

Comment by: aitch on 25th November 2010 at 19:59

Irene the picture is in backyard portraits under people, Im not making any comments, its all been said

Comment by: Bill Eatock on 25th November 2010 at 21:12

Compared to our house in Francis Street, yours looked positively upmarket!

Comment by: josie pennington nee beckett on 25th November 2010 at 21:25

aww dk this is fantastic, coz this was my childhood exactly we lived in york st hr ince, top of bell green lane,two up two down,mam and dad had six children, all of us kids in back room, what fun we had jumping across one anothers beds my older brother would crawl under our mile high double beds and push us up with his back untill my dad cracked the belt on the stairs shouting get to sleep,not that he ever used it on us it was just a frikner,my brother slept on an army type camp bed and like u dk we had coats and army blankets on,and in winter the ice on the inside of the windows was a thing for us to play on drawing with our fingers,everything u said dk was just the same for us it was a lovely time even though younger kids wouldnt think so, ive said many a time you could write a book,that was the 50s for me and yes i have wished many a time for some photos, thanks dk

Comment by: Helen on 26th November 2010 at 14:19

I know now why you label your pics 'backyard studio ' dk.
Just had a look at them all, they are a great lesson in social history, just wonderful. Sad that some lived, loved & died but now their faces are unknown...& did ever an elder tree get so much exposure ! Thanks.

Comment by: dk on 27th November 2010 at 09:54

Thank you all for your very nice comments. It's appreciated. The condition described above was quite commonplace, and this could be anywhere of a hundred streets so I know that most of you will have experienced something similar, but I thought it might be nice for others who have never had the pleasure of an outside inconvenience to see how it was. Not that it was good or bad - it just was.

We were a family conjoined to the front room where t'fire was but that's not the warmth of the happy memories of growing up here. Thanks to the people around us we had a mental warmth and an emotional warmth and, thanks to mi Mam, a bally full o' warmth.

Not many people will know that William Shakespeare spent a bit of time in Ince in his youth and wrote some of his best plays here whilst 'prenticed to a Master pickler. I am fortunate to be the curator of one of Will's quills, crafted from the tail feather of a sheppy, and a school jotter full of his original scribblings, although it stinks like bggry of vinegar. 'Course when he emigrated to Stratford he had to posh them up a bit 'cos they couldn't fathom out what he was on about.

The following is the last two lines of one of his sonnets - in the original - and just about sums it up for me.......

...."FOR THY OX TAIL REMEMBERED SUCH WEALTH BRINGS
THAT THEN I SCORN TO CHANGE MY STATE WITH KINGS"

.......Ta very much.

Comment by: Gerry on 27th November 2010 at 15:49

Our House in Battersby St were just the same, with one or two minor differences Coal hole was under the stairs and the coal man walked throughthe front door then through the room to drop the coal. The Petty were a good 30 yard walk away, you walked down the back with a lighted piece of newspaper and saved a bit to light your way back, if you were rich you had a third piece to put down the lavvy (lit) to keep you warm whilst you were sat there. (we were never rich though) I remember being gived a penny bubbly to chew rather quickly so dad could mend a leak in the lead pipes, after that he got a small parrafin lamp to keep Jack frost out of the Petty We had a great Army overcoat that were used on the bed. my brother Bill kept pulling if off me so I shouted MAM !!! he keeps pulling the over coat off me !!
Mam replied "If you call that an overcoat when the Priest is here on friday night I'll clout you".. "Its an eiderdown"

Friday night comes, we are in bed.. priest is downstairs collecting for the church.. Our Bill comandeers the Over coat.. just in time I remember the correct name for the overcoat.

MAM !!! Our bills got his legs down the sleeves of the eiderdown

Comment by: Moz on 27th November 2010 at 17:16

dk, Gerry - Some of the stuff you put on here is inspirational, the stories, the foto's, you're both Incer's. Cobble your ideas together and publish a book, you'll make alot of cash, you've got the literacy and encapsulating way of putting your thoughts down, you're on a winner. Remember Wigan World kick started it though ha! Other people are fascinated in our town, I work with a lot of outta towners and they love our heritage.

Comment by: dk on 27th November 2010 at 18:06

Blddy beltin' Gerry!!!!!!

Comment by: jacklaw on 27th November 2010 at 21:07

Halsall, I was born in Engineer St. too, at No9.

Comment by: MickP on 24th December 2010 at 21:37

An apology,
One night when I'd had too much Intoxication I was on this post,boy now do I regret it
I made some kind of Blah Blah comment.I was Drunk.
Luckily it was removed, thahks whoever(you do a great job" Somert like that.
Cheers dk.
ml

Comment by: Mick P on 25th December 2010 at 08:06

Uncle Harold was right when he said "don'twant to gew in that Bush."(pub.)

Comment by: Moz on 30th December 2010 at 22:50

Mick P, we come on this site to leave our true feelings, if people congratulate folk on great stories - that's tremedous, makes us all tick in the right way... Dangerous coming on here half cut pal, and I know you leave your pics on hoping for comments. Use your wits matey!

Comment by: Irene nee Kellie on 22nd January 2016 at 11:00

I used to live in Batersby Street number 56 next door to Joan Halliwell moved to platter bridge in the late 60s . My cousin Brain Catterall used to have the Bush my Mother and Dad was Polly and Alf Kellie my dad used to sing in the Bush was a good singer .

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