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Old pub on Standishgate
Old pub on Standishgate
Photo: Veronica B
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Item #: 34867
Not sure if this pub is already on

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 13th February 2024 at 09:08

It might have already been posted Veronica but good to see it again.
I’m not sure when was built or demolished but the three story house further up is still there with the cast iron downspout still intact.
At the top of the drainpipe is a date of 1785 RG.
Amazing when you think that George Washington was only 21 and that this was 20 years before The Boston Tea Party and eventual American Independence.
I wonder what discussions took place in that Georgian House?
I’ll send a picture to Ron to see if he can merge the two.

Comment by: Veronica on 13th February 2024 at 10:27

I just wonder if there were as many pubs on Wigan Lane as there were along Scholes.
I did look to see if the photo had been posted Colin but no joy apart from lists of pubs.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 13th February 2024 at 15:00

I don't think so Veronica, Scholes from Millgate up would beat it by a mile.

Comment by: Linma on 13th February 2024 at 16:19

Is this just further up from the dentist?

Comment by: Peter Walsh on 13th February 2024 at 20:34

This was just before Mabs Cross, then the Green Man was just after.

Comment by: Ian on 14th February 2024 at 11:56

Linma, it is on the right as you walk down Standishgate to Wigan town centre and it is as you get past Mab's Cross Primary School (on the left) and before you reach St. Mary's Church; it is opposite the large stone wall of Mab's Cross Primary School.
There was once, almost next door to this house, a garage which, I think, sold cars and did MOT - but, I only remember the quite large garage being set back off the road and cars being on the forecourt. As I was too young to drive, I had nothing to do with the garage and no real interest in it - therefore, I am sorry to say that I can't recall the name.

Peter is perfectly correct, this was further down the road to The Green Man. Therefore, there were at least three pubs almost next to each other: The Green Man, The Golden Cross and The Royal Oak - possibly, at least four pubs if all the above pubs were still standing when The Griffin was built, which is quite possibly.

Such a shame that some of these old buildings and old pubs were demolished. The building (The Golden Cross) looks like a quality, solid building and it certainly had character.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 14th February 2024 at 14:19

Correction to my first comment.
The date on the Downspout reads 1753 RG not 1785, my typo error!!!!!!!
I was told this morning that one of those building collapsed at some point, not sure which.

Comment by: Ian on 15th February 2024 at 00:15

Colin, a building lower down which was opposite St. Mary's Church partly collapsed. If I remember correctly, it was the side wall which partly collapsed.

Comment by: Maureen on 15th February 2024 at 15:32

Colin, my hubby used to take the car to Actons for its MOT,and about five years ago the building at the side of Actons fell down..and ithe last time I looked it was still flattened...

Comment by: Cyril on 15th February 2024 at 15:51

Colin, it was 118 Standishgate, next to Little London and the gable wall and part of the roof collapsed, here is a video of the building and security camera footage showing the collapse,

It was Barnes Motor Factors.
Photo and particulars of 118 Standishgate from Wigan & Leigh Buildings.

PaD by Brian showing all what is left. https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/photoaday.php?photo=2017-12-28

Ian, the car sales was Fred Grimes, there's a photo on the Album.

Comment by: Ian on 16th February 2024 at 11:33

Thanks for the information and those links, Cyril. I have had a look and they have certainly brought back some very nice memories of my younger days being spent in that area.
When I was a kid, I delivered newspapers to 118 Standishgate, which was some business and had offices in the building. As I also delivered newspapers to some of the houses in Acton Street, I cycled along that path (Little London) as it was shorter and quicker than going down to Dicconson Terrace.
I remember that the first part coming from Standishgate was quite narrow and it was cobbled, then it opened out onto a quite wide path/roadway, which was dirt and stone; this was extremely uneven. On the right side, going to Acton St., there were some garages.

Cyril, do you know why part of the building collapsed?

I haven't researched the building and so I only know of it from life experience. It seems strange that a building of such an age suddenly collapses, especially as there were no alterations being done close by to the road (Standishgate) or to Little London. Sometimes, deep ground work and/or heavy machinery can cause a nearby building to be disturbed.
As far as I know the gable end of that particular building (118 Standishgate) had always been a gable end.

Comment by: Cyril on 16th February 2024 at 14:49

I've no idea Ian, though Wigan Buildings seem to have asked for some much needed repairs to be made to the building. Isn't it strange as to how listed buildings or buildings of interest can suddenly catch fire or collapse in some way and then need to be demolished, usually it then clears the way for a new build, though the land this building was on is still vacant.

Have you seen the photo by Peter Walsh on the Album of Little London, at a time when it was overcrowded houses in yards, I don't where about in the alley it was taken, link below if you haven't seen it. https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=4&id=34811&gallery=Little+London&page=1

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