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Interesting photo Veronica.
A much later exodus from Lancashire were people who accepted the Latter Day Saints & their beliefs...I believe some of my Bradshaw & Bryson forebears decided to sail to a new life & religion the US.

Myles' first wife Rose was one of the first colonists to die in 1621 .
His second wife Barbara arrived on the ' Anne ' in 1623 and bore him many children . She had been escorted across the ocean by Robert Radcliffe .
The Radcliffes and the Standishes had family ties , Edward Standish having married Ellen Radcliffe in 1610 . Robert returned to England and was killed at the battle of Edge Hill fighting for the King .
Both families were ardent Royalists so Myles and Barbara were perhaps the Puritan ' black sheep ' of the families .

Thank you for the information Poet. I read quite a bit about the Pilgrims years ago but have forgotten most of it.
It has to be said Helen those Pilgrims were the bravest of the brave.

I forgot to conclude that for me these two connections are evidence that Myles was related to the Standishes of Standish .

Well done Poet ..that’s one in the eye for them who don’t think Myley Standish had much to do with that dangerous voyage…I wonder how many direct descendants there are roaming around in New England.

Records show that Myles Standish existed. Records show that he was a passenger on the Speedwell ship which sailed to England from the Netherlands. Records show that the Speedwell didn't speed very well at all and a small number of it's passengers were allowed to transfer onto the Mayflower. Myles Standish was one of them. Records show that Myles Standish was one of a team who were very active in the forming and the first years of the Plymouth colony.

Records DO NOT show him to be related to the standish family of Standish, of Duxbury or of the Isle of Man.
Records DO NOT show him to be 'Captain' of the Mayflower.
Records DO NOT show him to hold any authority over the Mayflower, in fact, Records DO NOT show him to have any authority over the Speedwell either.

John, I do not know if your correct or incorrect you are, all I know is the the Standish family are local from Duxbury which was closely connected to Standish at the time. There are two monuments in Standish to celebrate the journey and connection with Miles Standish and the Mayflower and no doubt there will be some reference in St Wilfrid's Church.
In addition I lived in Kennebunkport, Maine for some time in the 80's and not far away is Standish, Maine who's residents of both towns are convinced that Miles Standish was on the Mayflower and that he had connection to Standish, Wigan.
I am sure that there is someone out there with much more authority on the subject. In the meantime we shall go along with the legend.
PS. Are there two Veronica's out there one with and one without a 'B'?

There was a family by the name of Standish whom for many years had a drapery and soft furnishings shop on Standishgate, they may possibly have been related to the Standish family of Standish, who quite possibly may have been related to the Standish family of Duxbury, who possibly could be related to the Standish family of the Isle of Man.

Yes, it's well documented in what records there are that Myles and wife Rose were passengers, though he, as is recorded, was employed as a military captain when aboard The Mayflower so would have had quite a lot of authority, and was also quite an authority too when, as records show, he became military commander in Plymouth, New England, strange how, as records also show, he retired and became a farmer in 'Duxbury' Massachusetts, and assumingly, maybe it reminded him of his Lancashire homeland.

If anyone wants a poetic read here in the link is The Courtship of Miles Standish by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Courtship_of_Miles_Standish_and_Othe/71SLDqi8gKUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA7&printsec=frontcover

It’s me Colin I add the initial if I post a photo.
A lot of researching in Ancestry is putting 2 and 2 together with various clues, names, dates, places…etc. plus a lot of reading. Brick walls are common in ancestry.

This in the link is interesting to read -
Lost parts of Standish Hall found in America: https://www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk/content/Projects/StandishHallParts.htm

Very interesting read Cyril at least we know of one descendant called Norman there must be hundreds. ‘Apparently’ Myles was born in one of those rooms that were demolished. How sad the rest was all demolished in the eighties. Just shows Americans are far more appreciative for preserving even buying all the beautiful carvings from those rooms. They love anything that has a link to the Pilgrims and the birth of America.

After leaving Plymouth Sound we went to Rhode Island to see the Vanderbilt Mansion at Newport a ‘summer house’ where they spent their holidays. Everything was as if it was in the 1920’s from the ‘gilded age’.
absolutely fabulous .

This photograph has been put on Wigan Nostalgia without my permission. I have just complained about it.

Disgraceful Veronica, did you get the name of the poacher?

I might be banned by now Colin he got a tongue lashing from me.
It was the Jolly Roger!
( Alan Jolley). I took that photo on my holidays it isn’t a post card. In fact it’s not bad for me!

Oh Alan Jolley, that clown again! the thieving so and so.
Great picture Veronica, I have been to Boston many times but never seen the ship. Went to The New England Aquarium which was great and also Faneuil Hall Market Place, these stick in my mind.

PS and of course in the early 90's Cheers Bar!

Is Alan Jolley from Canterbury, who will rid me of this turbulent Beast!