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Bay Horse - colourised
Bay Horse - colourised
Photo: George Chilvers
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Item #: 22515
Allan Hughes posted this excellent picture of what appears to be a group of regulars from the Bay Horse in Ashton, around turn of the century I would guess.

I have tweaked the contrast and added colour. I know some people don't like this (Hello, Ivor!), saying that old pictures should be left as they are. Certainly sepia prints are evocative and great pieces of Art.

But I want to see what it would actually be like to be standing where the cameraman stood and see what he saw. I hope you agree that there is a place for both viewpoints, and enjoy seeing this group in all their glory. I think these chaps are brought to life in this picture.

Comment by: Karin on 22nd January 2013 at 15:58

I love both photographs I think they are both great as I live near the Bay Horse I am interested in seeing it as it was.
George can I ask - how do you know what the original colours were? Or does the original sepia photograph colourise it automatically? I am interested as I have some old sepia photographs and would be interested in knowing the original colours.

Comment by: peter on 22nd January 2013 at 16:25

super george

Comment by: JohnB on 22nd January 2013 at 16:26

On the whole I would generally agree with Ivor but I have to say that the process to add colour is very impressive, if not a little "unnerving". Realising that this photo is probably 100 years old and yet it now seems as if the event was just "yesterday".

Comment by: tony on 22nd January 2013 at 17:31

excellent george how long did it take you,it would take me a whole day or even longer.

Comment by: Carol on 22nd January 2013 at 17:37

I love it! But I think that originals need to been shown as well in the 'colourising' issue. Well done

Comment by: Kenee on 22nd January 2013 at 18:53

Adding colour in this instance is very effective. If I did it I would make the sky a bit bluer and the double yellow lines a bit clearer .............

kidding!

Some of the chaps in this picture look alike: either it was a big family or they were cloned.

Comment by: Ellen on 22nd January 2013 at 18:58

I think that this is an excellent example of colouring. On the whole, I usually prefer the original,especially in sepia,being a fan of monochrome; however,this is well done and very subtle and adds a realism to the picture seldom achieved with after-the-fact addition.

Comment by: George Chilvers on 22nd January 2013 at 19:03

Thanks for the comments. I have no problem at all that people have some doubts, but as I said I like to see the living picture. It in no way diminishes the value and worth of the old sepia pictures.

It took a few days on and off to do - I never really clock how long they take. And I never consider them finished of course. :)

There is no way really of knowing the original colours unless someone can enlighten. I've done for example a wedding photo where someone remembered certain colours, so I include those. For this it's mainly guesswork, except that I looked up Magee, Marshall Ales and their adverts seemed predominantly red and white. I did try a variety of colours for the licencee board and for the carriage and these seemed best. What I try to do is get something that looks lifelike without taking over.

And as for seeing them together it is very interetsing. I have a website and I'll try and put them up there so you can click from one to the other. I don't know however if this site allows other site addresses to be posted.

Comment by: Paula on 22nd January 2013 at 23:00

I think it looks really good and very original, a "near as can manage" likeness, maybe not exact but brings extra character to the photo. Lovely.

Comment by: ann21 on 22nd January 2013 at 23:01

George Brilliant

Comment by: Scott Wall on 23rd January 2013 at 10:41

I like both versions , Allan always puts fascinating photos on here. I like the colour version as well , as it creates a feel of what it would have been like to have been there , but i also like the b&w version as well , good work both

Comment by: Syd on 24th January 2013 at 13:21

There is no doubt that viewing the original sepia photo is truly evocative, but at the time this is the only way that they could record an event.
I think that the way George has modernized and brought this photo to life is superb. After all life isn't black & white and this photo comes to life thanks to George!

Comment by: Harry C. on 27th January 2013 at 08:34

Getting away from the actual photo which I think is brilliant and very interesting, would all the people on the coach be travelling or could they be posing for the photo? 'Elf and safety' wouldn't have been an issue then, either way I like it.

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