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Pony Dick Colliery 1970s
Pony Dick Colliery 1970s
Photo: Derrick Cunliffe
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Item #: 27261
Derrick proudly poses in front of his 8 Wheel Atkinson tipper, Reg PTE 978G, at Pony Dick Colliery Pemberton. The firm is R Banks and Sons of Park Road, Hindley, head office was in Standish. Great days.

Comment by: Alan on 21st December 2015 at 20:03

What a cracking photo of man and machine, they made Britain great.

Comment by: Eddie. on 21st December 2015 at 21:10

Good photo Derrick. Although we've never met, I somehow knew it was you before I read the caption. I remember seeing Banks's wagons coming over Woodhead in the late 60's in the days before the M62. I was driving a Guy Invincible 8 legger for Liptrot's in Golborne at the time. If I remember correctly Banks's motors were painted a light blue colour. I also have this mental image of them having some Foden S50 half cabs, or am I getting confused with that outfit from Bolton with the green motors. Was it James Booth? I think it used to say Booth's For Service on the tailboard. By the way Derrick, Pony Dick, was that the one that you accessed via Foundry lane in Highfield? Regards. Eddie.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 21st December 2015 at 23:24

Eddie, Pony Dick Colliery was further down past Foundry lane
on the left it was owned by Windy Arbour Colliery,your right
about the S50 Foden he also bought a 1973 30tonner it came
straight out the show room it stopped outside the garage and
started rocking I said to C Banks send it back he said its
brand new I said If you think I am going to repair that I'll
jack the job in ,Its got a transmission hand brake on guess
what he sent it back and Fodens put spring brakes on it
what a surprise that was,D C

Comment by: Garry on 22nd December 2015 at 01:20

Mmm must be one of the first mk2 Atkinson in 1969. But only has a 150 Gardner, not much power Derick for an 8 wheeler.

Comment by: Bob retired fitter. on 22nd December 2015 at 01:35

Spot on Mr Cunliffe them hand brakes were a complete waste of time, they let Fodens down, apart from that foden was a good work horse better tool than the Atky.When did banks haulage finish.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 22nd December 2015 at 10:55

Bob Retired Fitter.R Banks & Sons (Haulage) Ltd went into
voluntary liquidation in 1981 he finished us all on Friday
and on Monday started up as C&S Banks his son is still
running one wagon D.C

Comment by: Eddie. on 22nd December 2015 at 11:40

Around about 1986, while I was waiting for my motor at Gilbraith Commercials at Botany Bay, I got into conversation with a somewhat heavily built chap of a similar age to myself and very friendly. I think he was in there with a Scammell Constructor tipper. It was white, but unlettered I seem to recall. He said his name was Banks and he garaged his motor at the side of his house in Rectory lane, just up the hill from the bleach works. Would this have been the son of the chap that you drove for Derrick? The garage is still there I think, but I haven't noticed any activity for a long time.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 22nd December 2015 at 22:37

Eddie.It was Stephen Banks who you were talking too I worked
their from 1959 1981 as a driver/fitter it was a good job for 22years then I was redundant D.C.

Comment by: Barry Gaskell on 23rd December 2015 at 12:52

My dad Jack worked for Banks and Son when the garage was in Rectory Land, Standish.He was made redundant when the firm closed down.

Comment by: Fred Sidal on 23rd December 2015 at 18:39

What did Banks Haul, was it coal of general Haulage. I think I know them, I worked for Joe Pickavance from St Helens on the Ince slag tip many years ago. Good photo.

Comment by: Eddie. on 23rd December 2015 at 19:47

In a way, Pickavance, in their time,were trailblazers. Even way back in the 70's when everyone else were running their 8 leggers on duals, Pickavance wagons were equipped with super singles on the drive axles. Less rolling resistance, better fuel figures, less muck on the road. The downside being it was ' game over ' if you got a flat.

Comment by: Fred Sidal on 23rd December 2015 at 21:51

Right Eddie, Albion 6 wheelers with super single tyres. AS you say, helps to stop getting bogged down and bricks stuck in between tyres.Great trucks for day work.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 24th December 2015 at 01:35

Barry,Your Dad & Vernon Howarth were the longest serving men
at Banks's your Dad never had a wrong word to say about
anyone Vernon worked there nearly 50 years both were great
men to work with they are both sadly missed by everyone who
knew them RIP Jack +Vernon D.C.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 24th December 2015 at 01:46

Fred Sidal. Banks's hauled mainly coal also stone and sand
but stone and sand were mainly back loads he also had 3 flat
bed trucks on sugar as well it was a very well paid job D.C.

Comment by: Jeff on 24th December 2015 at 10:09

Derrick i presume you are now retired, and from the old school, you look very fit were you a driver and fitter. Many small firms like banks did most repairs themselves i would imagine. I remember the advantage was the driver could mend the truck at the side of the road, a big help to small companys.

Comment by: Barry Gaskell on 24th December 2015 at 11:30

Derrick. I remember Vernon. I used to go to the Standish garage on a Saturday morning helping with the maintenance. I remember seeing you. Thanks for the good comments regarding my dad.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 24th December 2015 at 22:51

Barry, Wages went up years ago to £40 for 40 hours, holiday pay to £60 so 1 weeks pay +1 weeks holiday pay £100 your Dad was the first to go on holiday Isaid to your dad how much has he paid he said £80 I said tell Banks he's paid
you short he went to Banks and said yond mon says you've
paid me short Banks new it was me who told your dad LOL I
thought that yond mon was very funny D.C.

Comment by: Johnny on 10th February 2016 at 15:54

Pony Dick is a pub not a pit.

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 15th February 2016 at 22:44

Johnny, Pony Dick may be a pub but in the pre 1970s it was a
colliery a drift mine it is on the border of Pemberton and
Winstanley it was at the bottom Windy Arbour hill on the
left hand side Windy Arbour Colliery Co owned it.D.C.

Comment by: ste on 3rd August 2017 at 20:52

This has nowt do wi kwiks

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 23rd August 2017 at 00:24

Ste What's it got to do with you any way who are you D.C.

Comment by: ste on 23rd August 2017 at 17:27

I worked at Ashton depot, everything to do with me!

Comment by: Derrick Cunliffe on 24th August 2017 at 23:46

Ste I don't see any of your comments on here good or bad so
don't criticize my contribution.D.C.

Comment by: ste on 25th August 2017 at 16:48

Banks lorrie nowt do wi kwikes.

Comment by: Tipper driver stan on 22nd February 2023 at 18:58

Eddie super singles were used on tippers because no bricks or stones get stuck between both tyres if they use twin wheels. And game is still over if you have a flat tyre with twins.

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