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Ince Wagon Works
Ince Wagon Works
Photo: James Marsh
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Item #: 22814
This is a picture of my Great Grandad, james Francis Marsh (bottom, 1st on left) at Ince Wagon Works, unsure of the date. I am told after the 1st World War. He was born in 1897 if it helps anyone date it. Can you spot the 3 strange figures on the back row, always thought they look spooky. Can anyone tell me anything about this place and upload any other old photos they might have.

Comment by: aitch on 25th February 2013 at 22:05

Im not really sure, but I think this could be the works in Christopher street Higher Ince, I started my working life there in 1954, dressing axle boxes in a room similar to that one, they had their own furnace albeit only a small one but mostly for, as I have said axle boxes and wagon name plates, which were cast on site and then dressed ready to be applied to the wagons

Comment by: James Marsh on 25th February 2013 at 22:35

Could they be ghosts of past workers lurking behind the top back row. Any Mulder and Scullys on this site.

Comment by: Mick on 25th February 2013 at 23:16

It's been taken by long exposure rather than by flash James, and the 'ghosts' are figures that moved whilst the pic was being taken.

Comment by: Lizzie down under on 26th February 2013 at 03:16

Hi James .....well you have a real spooky picture here.....ghostly apparitions I would think so but it just depends how much of a sceptic you are.
My grandfather Harry Hayes worked at the wagon works as did my Dad Arthur Hayes until Dad joined the army at the age of 19. I have an album I have set up on my iPad under the title.....spooky.....so may I have a copy of this picture for the album....it is a classic spooky....I have left my email icon or you can respond with your answer under this picture....I won't take a copy until you give me permission .....cheers, Lizzie :-)

Comment by: James Marsh on 26th February 2013 at 07:09

Thanks Aitch. It never even occured to me that it was taken indoors. With you mention it could be the one in Cristopher Street does that imply there was a few wagon works in the ince area?

Comment by: James on 26th February 2013 at 07:11

Shame about the camera Mick, guess there is no need for me to call the ghost busters then.

Comment by: Rev David Long on 26th February 2013 at 08:37

There's a whole book on the waggon works in Ince.

Comment by: aitch on 26th February 2013 at 11:28

James Marsh, to my knowledge there were 4 wagon building and repair shops in Ince, mainly the Central Wagon works, the Ince wagon works and the Wigan wagon works, there was also a small one at Rose bridge by the side of the canal, but that one I dont know the name of.

Comment by: AP on 26th February 2013 at 12:39

The 'cast' constructor's plate, indicating that the wagon was built in Ince, is seen a lot amongst railway 'collectable' ephemera. I guess over their active years that they built a lorra stuff!

Maybe some kind soul could put a picture on for the folk who are expressing interest.

Comment by: irene roberts on 26th February 2013 at 13:18

The ghostly figures are just people who movedwhilst the photo was being taken. That's why wedding-groups of the past often look stern and unsmiling.....they had to hold the pose for a very long time compared to today.

Comment by: BobE on 26th February 2013 at 14:14

This ghosting effect was one of the problems of long exposure when flash photography wasn't easily available. We've got a family photo from the 1920s where my gran looks like she has 3 arms because she moved while it was being taken, and a semitransparent blur in the foreground of this photo is all that can be seen of the family dog, which decided to have a good scratch!

Comment by: B Spencer on 26th February 2013 at 19:24

It was later called central wagon works, I worked there for 2 years in the 1960's they were good days made lots of friends

Comment by: B Spencer on 26th February 2013 at 19:25

It was later called central wagon works, I worked there for 2 years in the 1960's they were good days made lots of friends

Comment by: Lizzie down under on 26th February 2013 at 20:32

Ok you all have convinced me it is not a ghostly pic but it looks spooky.....may I have a copy anyway? Cheers!!

Comment by: josie on 26th February 2013 at 21:28

hi lizzie down under, i have a spooky pic that would have been taken with an ordinary camera it of my mam and her brother and a couple of other family members i will put it on now you can copy it if you want x

Comment by: Lizzie down under on 27th February 2013 at 00:58

Much appreciated Josie......I just love to see them......cheers!!,

Comment by: Lizzie down under on 27th February 2013 at 20:05

Where have you put the spooky pics Josie? :)

Comment by: josie on 27th February 2013 at 21:45

hi lizzie down under sorry i havent put it on yet as i tryed a few times and a message came on saying seriouse error ? and it gave all these numbers and said that my whatever was exhasted i dont know what this means i have put it on before and many photos in the past but keep looking on here i will get my cousin to look at it x

Comment by: josie on 27th February 2013 at 22:01

hi lizzie down under,i think i have sorted it hopefully it should be on shortly x

Comment by: aitch on 28th February 2013 at 11:31

sorry to seem a bit pedantic B Spencer, but the central Wagon Works was a place in its own right situated on Manchester road Ince, although they later became part of the same group, Ince wWagon works was in Christopher Street Ince and in later times was called Thompsons as well as Park Pallets, I was working there when it closed in 1983, after being bought out by Booker McConnell

Comment by: Albert. on 1st March 2013 at 12:59

There were quite a number of photographs appertaining to Ince Wagon Works,relating to the time when they had the task of scrapping steam locomotives. I cannot seem to locate that site now. I worked there for a short time, after my demob from the R.A.F.in early 1958. prior to joining the Wigan Borough Police.

Comment by: nicola tither on 16th March 2013 at 23:23

my grandad workt here iam sure,,my uncle died here at age 16 work exprinence his name was john tithe rmy dad also work there too thomas ,i would love to have know at bit about him if any one could help thanks,,dont want to ask my gran beryl tither from bamforlong

Comment by: Lancylass on 7th August 2013 at 22:20

I am trying to find out who owned the Waggonworks at Ince around Eastertime in 1894. Can anyone help please?

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