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Pemberton BoysFootball Team
Photo: Janice Wooton
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Pemberton Boys Football Team 1963-64

Comment by: Fred Mason on 25th November 2007 at 18:26

Is that the headmaster on the right? What's his name?

Comment by: Tom Jones on 20th January 2008 at 13:33

I think the headmaster was Mr. Shelton or Sheldon? He lived in a house near the reservoir at Orrel. Absolutely a brilliant teacher. so was Melvin Wadsworth, the teacher on the left hand side. I remember when we heard he was leaving the school, we heard him coming up the corridor and the whole class stood up in silence, as a tribute, that was unheard of at Pem Boys. I'm the one on the left middle row. Thanks Janice for sending me a copy and sorry for not being in touch for a while.
Tom jones

Comment by: dave johnson on 25th January 2008 at 22:33

If I`m not mistaken think that the Teacher on the right was James? Arrowsmith who taught woodwork.

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 21st February 2008 at 01:49

Is the teacher on the right Mr Coulshed the Headmaster

Comment by: Fred Mason on 17th July 2008 at 20:00

Yes, it just struck me. It's Eric Coulshed. A great headmaster and a great school with good lads. Does anyone remember the science teacher who taught us how to make fishing rods.? Was it Frankie Balmer?

Comment by: Fred Mason on 17th July 2008 at 20:02

I left in 1961. Can anyone name all these lads?

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 25th July 2008 at 20:39

The science teacher when I was there was I think a Mr Bradbury who gave us electric shocks by way of a small dynamo. Happy days, I was after those shocks.

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 26th July 2008 at 23:21

The art teacher in the 1950s when I was there was a Mr Bond, very arty but not good on the discipline side. The woodwork teacher was Mr Arrowsmith who also doubled as the gardening teacher on Fridays. There were some wonderful vegetable plots between the school and the sloping rugby pitch. New boys were always thrown onto the garden rubbish dump on their first day at school by the older boys. It was their way of saying welcome and join the gang. It was a good school but a lot of what went on then wouldn't be allowed today political correctness being what it is.

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 26th July 2008 at 23:22

The art teacher in the 1950s when I was there was a Mr Bond, very arty but not good on the discipline side. The woodwork teacher was Mr Arrowsmith who also doubled as the gardening teacher on Fridays. There were some wonderful vegetable plots between the school and the sloping rugby pitch. New boys were always thrown onto the garden rubbish dump on their first day at school by the older boys. It was their way of saying welcome and join the gang. It was a good school but a lot of what went on then wouldn't be allowed today political correctness being what it is.

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 26th July 2008 at 23:24

The art teacher in the 1950s when I was there was a Mr Bond, very arty but not good on the discipline side. The woodwork teacher was Mr Arrowsmith who also doubled as the gardening teacher on Fridays. There were some wonderful vegetable plots between the school and the sloping rugby pitch. New boys were always thrown onto the garden rubbish dump on their first day at school by the older boys. It was their way of saying welcome and join the gang. It was a good school but a lot of what went on then wouldn't be allowed today political correctness being what it is.

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 29th July 2008 at 17:00

Pardon my hiccups

Comment by: Phil Yates on 21st November 2008 at 16:17

Mr Coulshed was the Headmaster when I first went to Pem(1965) but I think it changed in my second year there to Mr Smith.

One question, Is the Dave Johnson who wrote in the same Dave Johnson we called Prod,if it is have you heard from Mr Dave Bithell,. Last I heard he had been booted out of Saudi Arabia and was applying for a job at Blackpool airport as a helicopter technician?.

Comment by: Barrie Winrow on 9th December 2008 at 11:05

I think back row, third from the left is keith ashall

Comment by: Dave johnson on 24th February 2009 at 20:06

Phil only just seen this, not seen Dave Bithell for years. Last I heard he was in Harare according their Joe.

Comment by: Brian Holden on 13th March 2009 at 16:30

I was in this year at Pem senior but not on the photo as I wasnt sporty. I can name most of the back row. First from the left I dont know then Kieth Ashall (great fringe) then Ray Ormisher then Clifford Lee then Ian Bryant then Graham Kay last one I dont know. First left middle row Tommy Jones and lastly sat at the front on the right I think was something Rigby. I remember these faces as they were in 2B with me and some of them were at Pem Primary with me. The teacher on the left is Mr Wadsworth and the on on the right is the head Mr Coulshed what happened to them. I think that Wadsorth (Hank) left to go into industry and Coulshed (cooly) had poor health and the music teacher Smith took over as head , he was a cruel b*****d I once saw him slap a lad across the face so hard he nearly took his head off. He was the only one like that and the other teachers were good blokes essentialy. I saw Mr Sandiford the metalwork teacher in Wigan last year but didnt speak to him I wish I had now. All that metalwork and woodwork set me up for a lifetime of DIY young folks now cant even change a bulb.

Comment by: Cyril on 29th March 2009 at 21:07

The lad in front of Eric Coulshed top right of the photo standing is Kenny Brookes, and the lad at the side of Mike Wadsworth top left of the photo standing his christian name I seem to recall was Phillip but can't recall his surname, next to him is Keith Ashall and the only other lad I can recall is Tom Jones seated on far left of the middle row.

Comment by: Phil wooton on 23rd April 2009 at 22:25

standing, wadsworth, buckley, ashall, ormshaw, leigh, bryant, kay,brooks, coulshed,sitting, jones,hilton,smart, wooton,cunliff. front,taylor and booth. andbooth.

Comment by: John Cunliffe on 13th May 2009 at 16:40

I am middle row right. I left after this year and went to Wigan Grammer. Except for Tommy I couldn't remeber anyone else, just shows old age. Still live and work in Wigan

Comment by: CHRISTINE COULSHED/LYNN SUDWORTH on 14th June 2009 at 19:39

The headmaster on the right hand side of the photo was MR ERIC COULSHED, he lived on Winstanley Road, Orrell. He was my uncle.

Comment by: Richard Green on 22nd July 2009 at 18:50

I an now 60 years old I live in Mid Wales and I was brought up in Troutbech Rise on Norly,(possibly the same street as Bian Holding ,above) At first I went to the old scool next to the West Ward Labour club, but after only a few months we were sent to the new scool at Montrose Ave; The scool was built on concrete fats with class rooms sat on them, they were attached to each other by corridors set on rollers.So asone raft moved the corrodors rolled with it . The site was a moving bog.When we got there there was no play ground just a square with kerbs around it.On one side was Norley quarry, and we were protected by a fence that consisted of uprights and thats all.On the opposite side was a pond, no fence, and if you accidently fell in you could go home to get changed , but this didnt last long,when the teachers twigg it. On the third side was Red Ash, a 30ft,slag heap that continuously belched out smoke from the internal fire that it had.Eventualy we had a tarmac play ground. The teachers that I remember were Eric Coulshed headmaster and a true gent.Brian Smith dept; a right swine as described above. Bob Hodgeson a mad welsh PT instructor who used to hit you on the backside with a trainer,George Sandiford football metalwork another gent, Mr Arrowsmith woodwork a dead shot with apiece of 2x2,Pete Brison, Bill Derby history great at telling tales about old Wigan,Bill Bradbury ,he used to give us all the electric shock, we also used to hunt for mice on top of Norly quarry in the long grass to feed his family of owls, he also invented the game Killer, he was also mad on fishing,and an english teacher who I can,t remember his name who had a speach impediment. Does any of this ring any bells? This is the second time iv'e tried to make a comment so I hope this time I get it right,(well I am an old u'n)Cheers.

Comment by: barrie winrow on 24th July 2009 at 18:53

Richard you must have just left pem when I started (1965-1970) all those teachers were still there, but I think you got the teacher who knew a lot about wigan wrong, his name was george derbyshire (owd nick). Don’t you wish you were back there, I do

Comment by: Richard Green on 25th July 2009 at 18:31

Barrie, you were spot on it was George Derbyshire, he lived up Wigan Lane somewhere, he was as has been mentioned above like many of the teachers a very good teacher, but I think like many others at that time I didn't realise it. They were good times and I am thankful that I like all of our generation had a Childhood that involved taking chances now and then,without writting out a"risk assesment" first. But enough of that , I have only just found this site and it's great to have contact with Wigan as I sit in my cave in the hills in mid Wales fighting off mad Welsh men.In my first comments it should have been the classrooms sat on RAFTS, still i'm an old'un and can get away with it now.I thought that a spell check was a payment for a majic box, (so much for my education).I shall veiw this page as much as possible,(welsh men permitting ,Cheers.PS Yes Barrie I do miss those days.

Comment by: jan wooton on 14th October 2009 at 22:18

Hi Richard think you may know my brother Malc Conroy i know you but can`t remember who you mated with `Think we use call you Dickie Green

Comment by: Richard Green on 23rd October 2009 at 18:15

Hello Jan, yes I do remember Malc how are you all keeping? Yes I am and was known as Dickie and although I didn't have any mates at all, I'll mention a few lads who I knew Gezz Glover, ( Iwas in love with his sister) Derick Orm,( I was in love with his sister too) Harry fisher( and his) Rolland Bradshaw ( both his) and anybody else who had a sister I tried to be their mate.Moved first to Hereford in 82 then to Wales in 2002, but we still come back quite often to visit relatives, and dare I say it friends, to finish off (none of their sisters liked me.) Hope to hear from you again Jan , in the mean time, my roast hedgehog is nearly done. bye for now.

Comment by: brian holden on 1st November 2009 at 13:32

richard you didnt mention my sister what was wrong with her we were at 5 troutbeck rise. do you remember wigan baths evey tuesday evening with special passes.I will email you soon brian holden

Comment by: Richard Green on 6th November 2009 at 17:43

Brian nice to hear from you, iv'e already contacted your Dorothy on another part of wiganworld.She's e mailed me and told me that you are abroad. I was in luv with her too but as I wasn't earning enough on my papaer round and spent it on chips after the swimming I decided not to get married until I was at least 11.Hope you are well and I look foreward to hearing from you, are you still playing the drums???

Comment by: jan on 9th November 2009 at 21:12

Hi Richard Malc is fine I see Teresa and Roland Bradshaw quite A lot. Do you remember Norman and Frank Gaskell. Have you been back to Pemberton recently . Jan

Comment by: Richard Green on 10th November 2009 at 18:27

Jan, well I'll go to the foot of our stairs, (in my cave ) Norman and Frank, didn't they live on the corner of Scafell Drive and you lived further on, or have I got it wrong again? As far as Roland, Iv'e not seen him for years, infact longer than that, and Tereaser I used to see her when she worked at Unit 4, she used to hit me with her torch,we once joined forces and had a "bommy" between Troutbeck and Scafell, we went up the little path in the corner of Scafell onto the field at the back were we could come out on Ormskirk Road, what a blaze that made I remember an old chap coming up quietly with a tin bucket with water in, saying "just in case" the flames were 40 feet up.Jan can you show me how to put a photo up, as Iv'e got one for the Highfield football site, but I don't know how to do it( the story of my life).Please all keep well, PS we have to go up to Liverpool (hospital) on 17-12-09 so we may stop over and perhaps meet for a drink? Dickie.

Comment by: jan on 10th November 2009 at 20:26

Richard, Norman and Frank lived at the top end of Scafell Derek Orme lived the other end .We lived near the opening bottom end going on to the back field .Remember the bonfires And Brian Bradshaw From the Green. I worked with Teresa at Unit four we had some great laughs.

Comment by: jan on 10th November 2009 at 20:35

Richard to upload you photo click on photo upload and it will take you through step by step how to do it. jan

Comment by: Derek [Tozzy] Rothwell on 15th January 2010 at 16:46

this is a team i alwayswanted to get into but wasn,t good enough.i remember all of these lads asmost of them were in my class...left class 4a in 1967...tommy jones..cliff leigh..allan booth ...barry buckley...kenny brooks...kenny smart who won the cross country every,s fantastic to see their faces again.hope everyones still alive and kicking.....sadly iv,e defected to the east [yorkshire] due to work but i do miss the old days in WIGAN ....what a great website this is.....remember 2 of us doin hanks garden for him in the summer hols,,what creeps,,in kitt green...

Comment by: allan wood on 15th February 2010 at 19:43

richard green was the teacher with the speech impediment name catteral.

Comment by: Dick Green on 8th March 2010 at 20:54

Allan how are you , you are right it was Mr Catterall who was our english teacher . He couln't say his "Fs" so when we were reading in turn out loud in the class when we came to a word beginning with "F" we would ask him to say it as we couldn't read it . What cruel sods we were.I remember one book we read was "The Cruel Sea" and the main character in it was a fellow called "Ferrerby" As I say cruel little sods. All the best to you all Dickie.

Comment by: H.Potter on 12th June 2011 at 20:49

Roy Rothwell, did you live in Norley Hall Avenue, go in the Royal Navy (gunner on a submarine) mother's name Annie. If so get in touch, you're my cousin!!

Comment by: Roy Rothwell on 15th August 2011 at 00:10

Hi Harold
I tried to get in touch a while ago by writing to your old address in Ashton, got no reply. Yes Mothers name Annie, lived in Lamberhead Rd, joined the navy in 63. I have a photo of you and your mother, or aunt Betty as she was known. Will post on line or send by e-mail. I have lots of family history about the Prestons but no photos.
Regards Roy

Comment by: allan wood on 24th September 2011 at 21:11

i am well sorry about the delay,i remember the summer i left we moved the equipment to the new school. i remember when i was older i went to visit, and was pleased to see in the entrance a cabinet with all the pictures of past teams, i wonder what happened to them?. good to see that a lot of people remember the old school with good memories.

Comment by: Murphy Allan on 4th October 2011 at 09:24

Just came across this site,good memories. Ileft in '65
To live in Australia,I remember those teachers in photo agree with
Comments good guys. Any other guys from '65?

Comment by: George Fairclough on 24th October 2011 at 07:58

Also left in 65 to travel to Australia.
Thanks to everyone who refreshed memories of a great school & great teachers ;0)

Comment by: John Duncan on 7th February 2012 at 16:30

I remember Mr. Derbyshire made everyone take off their shoes before going into the library, which had cork floor tiles. The shoes in the corridor made your eyes water!

Comment by: Barrie Winrow on 19th June 2012 at 10:35

Jan, I have cleaned this photo a little let me know if you want a copy.

Comment by: Paul Edwards on 27th December 2012 at 11:08

Just been reading the comments left by ex pupils of Pem Senior. What a blast from the past this has been!!!
I started there in 1967 and left in 1971. Clearly there's been a few changes of teachers up to the time I started but the teachers I remember are:
Don Morris (Sport)He took over from David Stevens who I'm pretty sure played on the wing for Wigan Warriors?, Ethel Brown (Art), Jimmy Arrowsmith (Woodwork), Mr Entwistle, James? Sharrock, George Derbyshire, Brian Smith was headmaster all the time I was there. George? Bradbury who taught us Science and was also a digestive biscuit fanatic.
Brian Tinsley (Practical Drawing), John Devine (Maths).
Hope some of these names ring a bell.

Comment by: kenneth just on 29th January 2013 at 14:57

happy memories norman NIK smith headmaster strict but fair teachers mr pearson brian smith mrs wadsworth

Comment by: Jan on 5th March 2013 at 14:38

Hi Barrie only just seen your comment on the photo , yes i would like a copy of the photo you have cleaned up please.i have also left a comment on the Pemberton Primary photo for you. Jan

Comment by: Michelle Hilton on 26th July 2013 at 21:03

The second man seated from the left is my Dad Alf Hilton. He passed away this week and my dad and mum would of been married foe 40 years if he had lived another 5 days. I am so proud of my dad and I have always been a Daddy's Girl even at the age of 39. I love you Dad. RIP. XXX

Comment by: maureen markland on 10th May 2014 at 16:01

message for alan murphy. you lived next door to us on saddleback and my husband met up with your sister Sheila and Ron last september in wigan, it was so very good to see her again,talked non stop about old times and family, you were only a young lad when you emigrated.I remember your whole family, Ernie,Alice,John,Sheila,Joe and yourself. I left Pem sec 1961, I think that the school became separated around that time boy's went to Montrose ave. girls stayed at Pem, my two brothers Barry and Terry would have attended Montrose ave.

Comment by: kenneth just on 19th January 2015 at 23:13

head master was eric coulshed ileft school in 1952agz

Comment by: diane glanfield on 25th September 2015 at 23:13

Hi my name was Diane Heaton Just found this site I remember Alan murphy and the time you left to go to Australia I always wondered if you got there and Maureen markland and your brother/s I to lived at 58 saddleback rd across from both of you and I remember you especially Alan and sheila I used to look after Pauline and you used to call me streaky bacon I was thin them days hope you both have had a good life as I have I remember the boys going to the new school on Montrose ave as I was at pem girls

Comment by: Frank Rowley on 21st October 2018 at 21:50

I think the headmaster was Mr Coulshed upto 1961.

Comment by: Michael griffin on 13th May 2021 at 18:36

Àt pemberton sec 1960/64 recall many lads b Marsden d Tudor r sharp

Comment by: Kenny Brookes on 10th January 2022 at 06:46

Had a great time at Pem Boys. Didn’t realise at the time but you learned a lot more than the subjects being taught.

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