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 Photo-a-Day      (Saturday, 5th October, 2013) Views: 2,905 
The Moon Under Water
 The Moon Under Water   by Ron Dawber  (Canon PowerShot G9)
Top of town.

Comment by Ken R on 5th October 2013 at 00:23
Nice inviting photo. I guess that the "Regiments of Foote" are inside having a pint.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 5th October 2013 at 04:32
Ron; Another photo taken near to where the bobby used to stand on point duty at top of Wallgate.
Do you know that Wetherspoons have different price lists depending on the pubs location?
Wetherspoons `The Moon Under Water` pubs are also at :-
Balham, Boston, Cheltenham, Colondale (within M25), Cradley Heath, Enfield, Hounslow, London (Leicester Square), Manchester (Deansgate), Milton Keynes, North Shields and Watford.
Wetherspoons have over 830 pubs with plans to open 250 over the next 5 years. They`ve already opened 12 in the last 3 months, creating 350 jobs.
Incidentally, Wetherspoons `The Montagu Pyke` is at 105-107 Charing Cross Road, Bloomsbury, London.


Comment by kath on 5th October 2013 at 07:03
I had a very nice lunch and catch up with a friend in there a couple of weeks ago


Comment by peterp on 5th October 2013 at 08:11
Footpath clutter


Comment by Lizzie down under on 5th October 2013 at 08:34
Lovely picture Ron.....bet those people didn't think that their picture would be seen by me in Australia....one for the album....cheers!!!


Comment by A.W. on 5th October 2013 at 09:38
One of the better pubs to have appeared in Wigan over the last 15 years or so.


Comment by Janet ( FL ) on 5th October 2013 at 14:12
Is that where the bus stop for the Ashton Bus used to be, years ago?


Comment by Neil Rigby on 5th October 2013 at 14:34
Orwell's original 'The Moon Under Water' is here:-
http://www.whitebeertravels.co.uk/images/muw_big.jpg

More info at:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Under_Water


Comment by Jean F (Wales) on 5th October 2013 at 17:10
Funny name for a pub.!
When we were in the pub trade we had the rollers arms ..volunteer arms and skinners arms, there must be a story behind them all but didnt think anything of it at the time.


Comment by alan lad on 5th October 2013 at 17:22
Drinking on the street is it against the law or not?also i agree with peterp on these corals which are spring up all over the town .


Comment by Neil Rigby on 5th October 2013 at 18:42
'...the story of "The Moon Under Water" The name came into being following the activities of Recruiting Sergeants in the 18th century who spent much of their time visiting Taverns in order to "Press" people into joining the British Army.'

i.e. the 'The King's shilling' slipped into a tankard of ale. Also see background to 'glass-bottomed' tankards.


Comment by Red Stripe on 5th October 2013 at 19:11
Why the gripes about people sitting outside enjoying their food/drink? Its very popular on the Continent why shouldnt we re-create it in Wigan? Its great we have had such a lovely summer for people to enjoy this.


Comment by Neil Rigby on 5th October 2013 at 19:35
With regard to 'Drinking on the street' wikipedia gives:-

"Drinking in public is legal in England and Wales one may carry a drink from a public house down the street (though it is preferred that one request a plastic glass to avoid danger of breakage and because the taking of the glass could be considered an offence of Theft as only the drink has been purchased), and one may purchase alcohol at an off-licence and immediately begin drinking it outside. Separately, one may drink on aeroplanes and on National Rail trains, either purchasing alcohol or consuming one's own.
In certain public places, one may be required (requested) to stop drinking. It is not illegal to drink in these areas, contrary to popular misconception,[9] but, in these areas, if requested by police to stop drinking, one must (may) then stop drinking and surrender the alcohol, both open and closed containers.[10] These are formally known as Designated Public Places Orders (DPPOs), and were allowed by The Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (CJPA); they are more popularly known as 'Controlled Drinking Zones' (CDZs).[9]"


Comment by dave steck on 5th October 2013 at 20:06
What an amazing Grand Final that was. Great advert for rugby league. Well done wigan, commiseration warrington. Both teams played well.


Comment by kevan taylor on 5th October 2013 at 22:30
Thanks dave, I was just about to watch the game having recorded it at 3:30am when it was on here live. " I should be safe looking at PaD I thought grrr. Oh all right I'll still watchit :>)


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 6th October 2013 at 06:47
kevan taylor, dave stock: I don`t understand why dave put his comment on this P-a-D. It should have been put on yesterday`s P-a-D, surely?


Comment by Jean F (Wales) on 6th October 2013 at 15:08
Ernest I don`t want to be rude to you( Love you too much for that!) but I do think you need a little break !.


Comment by Harry Turner on 7th October 2013 at 12:28
I was told that the name for the pub came from the old film - Hobsons Choice. Where old drunk Hobson sees the moon reflected in a puddle and tries to grab it!(Charles Laughton and John Mills)


Comment by Neil Rigby on 8th October 2013 at 20:25
Harry, The film "Hobson's Choice" is 1954 (the "Moon Scene" is not in the original play of 1916.)
Orwell's essay 'The Moon Under Water' - about his ideal pub, is 1946.
There was a film of Hobson's Choice of 1931, but that film is lost.
(Incidentally, the name of the Inn in Hobson's Choice is the Moonraker's)


Comment by John H on 10th October 2013 at 22:31
Nice shot ron well done


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