Wigan Album

looks like upper morris street scholes

The steepness of the street does suggest Upper Morris St.

this pic tells a story

That is a very evocative photograph, one of the best I have ever seen on WW Albums. It could have been taken in 1908, never mind 1968!

I am no help at all as to who she is... or where she is.

Having Left Wigan in 1966 when I came to Australia, I can truly say, that I have rarely seen a photograph that reflects such depair and acceptance of "Ones Lot in Life"
My comments are in no way intended to offend anyone.
Purely an opinion on the photo only.

Could it be St Patrick St off Scoldfield Lane that used to be pretty steep St Pats church or school was at the bottom and I think it was cobbled but then most of the streets were cobbled.

Definitely St. Patricks Street. The entry on the top lefthand side of the picture led to my nans land which was in Prescotts Yard.

I notice there are electric street lights there so it is later in time than you are made to imagine by the lady's 'mode' of dress.

Looking down the street I have tried to make out if the blurr is St Pats church but not with much sucsess,does anyone know how to enhance it.I do agree it is one of the best pikys on WW.I used to have a friend that lived in that street in about 1963/64 and it looked very much like that then,a few of the older folks still used to dress as the lady is dressed,but in saying that I do think the pik is before 1963 but not a lot.

The picture is reminiscent of one of Isherwood or Major's paintings, and looks like a professionally posed 'magazine' photo.
Could it have been a gimmick related to one of the two artists?

Cracked it it is St Patricks Street. Just looked on an old map and there are 8 houses on the left in St Patricks St. and there are 17 in Upper Morris Street. Also there is no street on the right in Upper Morris Street. Whereas, Anderton Street, bisects St. Patricks Street as does the street in the photo.
All I need now is a name<g>

I lived in Cambridge around the time you have the picture dated now at that time I had just 1 child but in 1970 I had my second child There was a few woman in the street that dressed like this I remember they would come and wrap my baby in a shawl and walk up and down the street I remember the older ladies loved to stand in the street with borrowed babies The two ladies on each side of me took young womens babies just to give us a break It was very nice I also remeber the kids in the street wonted to take my baby for a walk in her pram
This photo is very nice

Syd,regarding your comment about 'accepting one's lot'.I was born during W.W.2. and grew up in the forties and fifties.What you say is,in my opinion,quite true but I think it must have been almost impossible to change one's life then.I was taught to 'know my place' but fortunately for me and millions more,society was changing dramatically and we started to question the ideas drummed into us..the rest is history.My generation owe a great deal to our forefathers who had to tolerate the age they lived in.

Hi David, I agree with you completely, I was born in 1949, 4 years after the end of WW2. My respect for my parents generation is immense. As I clarified in my comments, no offense was intended, my comments are based on this photo
only. I bet this lady could tell a tale or two, Cheers, Syd.

All the best Syd and thanks for the photo, Ron.It certainly caused some comment.

I could swear this is St Patricks St. I do not know the lady but she seems familiar somehow ..perhaps because a lot of women dressed like this.

definitely st.patricks street. I was born in the next street which was prescotts yard.

the last house in the first row of houses was where Terry Gibson lived. he was a friend of my brothers,reg culshaw. We believe that Terry went to live in Australia.My brother often thinks about him and wonders where he is now.Has anyone out there got any information.

This picture is great, could win a prize

The old ladies name is Lizzy Carter she lived in Lowe st.,(see Scholes pictures Colin Quinn) The house on the right belonged to Mrs., Charnock, a stalwart of St.,Patricks Parish. The shop on the corner of Anderton St., was Tommy Dummican's. One the same side on the next corner, Higham St., that shop was run by Agnes Myolett( not sure on the spelling) the third street down was Mc Cormick St., Ilived at 48 untill I got married . After that Harrdybutts,if you carried on across Hardybutts at the back of Greens shop, now long forgotten was Manchester Place, demolished in1930s.

awwwww!! that lady looks so dignified to me. (not just "accepting of her lot").the nobleness of her bearing I found very moving. I bet she knew all about life and probably had her share of sorrows. I suspect she had happiness too. there is a trace of an enigmatic smile on that lovely face. I love this lady.

I know who this lady is she was my great grandmother Lizzy carter my dad said she was a strong lady and didn’t take no messing,it was taken in scholes think it was for a paper or magazine wish I could of met her