Wigan Album

Wallgate? Hmm, doesn't look like it to me. Those sidings? I didn't think that the canopy extended so far down. And the 'Way Out' sign? It doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure that is Wigan Wallgate Ron, as I can't remember goods sidings. There is a wall opposite the Bolton Manchester line from Wallgate. It looks more like Blackburn

The east end of Blackburn is what sprang to my mind but I am doubting that it was so open where the clock and route indicator boards were, surely these were under the all over roof?

I'm almost sure it's Bolton Trinity Street station.

Why would it say"STATIONS TO BOLTON"if the photo was taken at Bolton ? Could it be North Western Station possibly

That's what I thought, Garry.

My guess is Lostock.

It looks like the Central Station. The route detail to Manchester is the one used by Lancashire and Yorkshire railways from Wigan Central.

Wigan Central was never part of the L&Y, it was the GC. The route from Wigan Central to Manchester Central went via Lower Ince and Glazebrook, NOT via the stations indicated in the photograph.

Jarvo is absolutely correct GC a different line. Looking back in many of my railway books, Bolton station was quite a busy connection at that time, I can see many similarities in this photo.
I'm going with my theory Bolton. But before you all get on my back, I could be wrong.

I am still leaning to Blackburn, it cannot be Bolton for the obvious reason already stated regarding the train destination board! It's a shame the background is so overexposed but the ground does seem to rise up above the wagons with what appear to be shrubs or small trees. This is very reminiscent of the east end of Blackburn as the lines converge before entering Blackburn tunnel.

It's Bolton. Look closely: that destination board looks like it has been superimposed on to the photograph. And a double clock? A trick photograph, perhaps? But that is definitely Trinty Street.

Trinity Street...OR...'Wogden'...lol.

Def not Central, which had slender columns, topped by beams running transverse (ie across the platform) and with characteristic quatrefoil piercing. This yields
the glazing bars being perpendicular to those shown here. For comparison, see picture of Central's roof structure here:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=5444&gallery=Central+Station&offset=0

Yes I agree Jarvo, the superimposed clock and board would be too low anyway. Well if Jarvo agrees with me, Bolton it is.

I agree the destination board does look a bit like it has been 'photoshopped' on the photo, but it's a removable sign, witness the pile of other destination boards stacked vertically, some of which also have the word Bolton on them.

It's Bowton alreet, Garry.

Bowton it is!

Certainly NOT Bolton!

Typed in Blackburn railway station old photos on Google and one of the photos (looks like a painting)shows two clocks and some signs similar to the ones on the above.I suppose many stations had a similar set up.

Pw, are you revering to this one, which certainly has the clocks and destination boards, but does not have the columns supporting the latticework structure of the canopy.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pfxzkOLul0I/UsEI3EGIGPI/AAAAAAAABt4/Xk5FfGwqAps/s1600/Station+-+John+L+Chapman.jpg

The only canopy and columns I can find that match are Mill Hill, photo here:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_usW4Ex1UsF4/TKYof9080_I/AAAAAAAAAug/FOdgzAvRduk/s1600/Mill+Hill+-+Rly+Station+-+Bpast+-+enl.jpg

Bury Bolton Street Station

Looking at other photos online, I do not think these are clocks, but departure time indicators. The destination indicator, I think is not photoshopped on, but is slotted into the side of the time indicator, which is why it appears to float.

Some photos on line show these, with the conventional station clock also being visible.

Sounds logical to me priscus. It would also account for the pile of destination boards stacked in front of the indicator.

Bolton Street, Bury station never had sidings next to the platforms. You can go there today and everything is still original. It's known as East Lancashire Railway, so you can rule that station out for me!

Clocks were never used as departure times, only the time of day. You have to remember, BR at that time employed many people at every train station and Bolton being one of the larger ones. So you'd have ticket office, parcel and mail office, station master and luggage attendent officer and so one. In other words just ask.

This Bury line could not connect to Bolton, NOT even in British Rail days.

Good grief! does it matter?

stations listed are all l and y but its not Blackburn no mention of darwen etc.its neither westhoughton or lostock their too small.maybe its Bolton and someone's been messing around hanging that sign up.

DTease it does matter, it's educational.
Maybe out of your league.

Ho, I do hope so Garry.

If you look at the link below, you can see the whole piece of apparatus, along with the station clock in the same photo.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pfxzkOLul0I/UsEI3EGIGPI/AAAAAAAABt4/Xk5FfGwqAps/s1600/Station+-+John+L+Chapman.jpg

I wonder if this is the station that gave Salvador Dali the inspiration for his work, ' The Persistence of Memory ' ?

Ozymandias, I'm thinking of painting a clock myself, but should it be a Bolton clock or a Lostock clock or even a Blackburn clock ? Decisions, decisions. One things for sure whichever one I paint it simply must have at least two hands and all of twelve numbers.

Dtease: It is clearly obvious that you're not a railway buff. Don't make silly comments. Thanks.

Being possessed of a somewhat frugal nature Dtease, I've always been of the opinion that two hands on a clock were something of an extravagance, when one hand alone would do the trick. Always provided of course, that it was the small one. Same thing applies to numbers. Who needs them ? It's perfectly possible to read a clock face reasonably accurately using just the hour hand. Plus, it would make the thing much easier to paint, not to mention the saving in costs by not including unnecessary hands and numbers. Taking it one step further, why not replace minutes and seconds with degrees and get rid of all that 0928 nonsense. For example :- " The train arriving at platform 4 is the 282 degrees to Red Leicester, calling at Soapdish, East Chittagong, and Hapag Lloyd." . Of course, with the majority of people tending to have a natural aversion to change, my revolutionary new system may take some while to catch on.

Regards. Ozy.

Jarvo, considering that there have been 36 comments on this posting and we still don't know which Station this is, it seems that I'm not the only one who isn't a Railway Buff.

Ozy, Are you suggesting thrt Daniel Quare need not have bothered inventing the common centre?

They are departure indicators. On the link below, you can also see the steps used to set the departure time.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10659703&itemw=4&itemf=0001&itemstep=1&itemx=1

No mention of Darwen etc? Should it be Blackburn then would "Stations to Bolton" not cover those stations?!!!!!

Fools always ruin a really interesting post with silly ignorant remarks.

don't think its Blackburn as there where two buildings on the east side of Blackburn stationand there are no mention of the Blackburn to Bolton stations ie darewen hoddlesdon was still open then,entwistlehallith hill or Bromley cross is turton still open.surely these would be on that sign before moses gate etc

This is now getting silly! Hoddlesden(goods) was on a branch off the Blackburn- Bolton line and it is Hal i' th' Wood, and as I said earlier "Stations to Bolton! I'll just leave you all to decide among yourselves, I'm signing out of this one. Bye for now.

You've just coined a fitting epitaph to have inscribed on your headstone there Garry.

We have had a real good laugh, I have been reading out all the comments to my husband in the best Lancashire accent I can come up with......reminds us of Last of the Summer Wine with a cast of thousands....great stuff, keep it up !

Helen, can I be Nora Batty ?. I've got the stockings and the mop, please let me be Nora Batty.

And before G.W. beats me to it, I'd like to put my name forward for consideration to play the part of Compo. My credentials being, I have a long history of careering uncontrollably downhill on some piece of untested homemade apparatus, usually ending in catastrophic circumstances.

Ozy, sounds like you are describing my first experience with the opposite gender.

Well it looks like I have the makings of a cast for a new series of Last of the Summer Wine. Now.. who is up for playing Howard ? I love this website !

Helen, Mick has a bike.

As you seem to be a bit of a tease d, the role of Norah is yours for the taking. Now enough of this nonsense I have things to do !

This post has turned into a farce with one or two who think it's about them.