Wigan Album
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Photo: Ellen Martland
Item #: 22764
I cannot confirm if this is any of correct, I am told the old lady is my Great Grandmother although I don't know her name, she had a child James Martland, the child's farther was also named James Martland, although its possible they were not married when the child was born. If any one could provide me with any more information about the house, family at the house or the lady or confirm any of the current information I would be very grateful.
Comments by Mansell Upham, 13th May 2012 mansell.upham@gmail.com
A photograph of this very house - Newgate House - has been passed down to me by co-descendants of my maternal great-great-grandmother Gertrude Dale, born Brown (1851-1927). her mother Maria Brown, born Rigby was born (22 February 1830) in this house according to family papers as were all of her many siblings. The house was purportedly built by an ancestor William Rigby in 1707 and was inherited by his great-great-grandson Thomas Rigby (born Newgate House 1789). After his death the house was sold c. 1857 to Dr John Rigby of Chorley (a distant relative?).
Maybe this lady is Elizabeth Ann Rigby born 1863 married James Martland 1901 and died late 1937.Lancashire online parish has a baptism record for a James Martland 1893 son of James and Elizabeth Ann.
Baptism: 14 May 1893 St Thomas, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Martland - [Child] of James Martland & Elizabeth Ann
Born: 5 Apr 1893
Abode: 3 Caroline St.
Occupation: Publican
Baptised by: R. Tebbs, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1885 - 1927, Page 100, Entry 795
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
You may wish to check with this earlier poster;
Comments by Mansell Upham, 13th May 2012 mansell.upham@gmail.com
A photograph of this very house - Newgate House - has been passed down to me by co-descendants of my maternal great-great-grandmother Gertrude Dale, born Brown (1851-1927). her mother Maria Brown, born Rigby was born (22 February 1830) in this house according to family papers as were all of her many siblings. The house was purportedly built by an ancestor William Rigby in 1707 and was inherited by his great-great-grandson Thomas Rigby (born Newgate House 1789). After his death the house was sold c. 1857 to Dr John Rigby of Chorley (a distant relative?).
Comments by Mansell Upham, 13th May 2012 mansell.upham@gmail.com
This is the 1911 census matching Elizabeth Ann Rigby/Martland
Name: James Martland
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Skelmersdale, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Skelmersdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 High Street Skelmersdale
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Ormskirk
Registration District Number: 457
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 22943
Household Members:
Name Age
James Martland 44
Elizabeth Ann Martland 48
James Rigby 25
Jane Rigby 15
The lancs opc record relates to James Martland born Chorley
not Skelmersdale.
That's fantastic guy's, thank you so much, i gives me a good start on part of the family tree I've really been stuck on.
Hmmm still stuck on this old lady, not found any firm information on her if any one has any more clues on who she is I would be very greatful. Thanks
It has been several years since I last posted here and I now a lot more, The lady in the picture outside the House is Margaret Rimmer Nee Martland. She was Married to Mr John Rimmer but she had My Great Grandfather James Martland out of wedlock before she married John Rimmer.
If any one has any further information or pictures of the house I would love to see them. my email is attached please feel free to email me.
I'm looking to contact a Mr Baggaley, I believe he now has the bible that one belonged to Maggie (Magaret) Rimmer of newgate farm.
If anyone know's Mr Baggaley or Mr Baggaley see's this I would be extremely grateful if he would contact me as it would mean a lot to me to see pictures of the writing inside the bible as Maggie was my Great Great Grandmother. in return I can share copies of several photos I have of Maggie and Newgate Farm.
Thanks Ellen