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May Mill   Views: 1407
KNOTTER   Comments: 19
Photo: RON HUNT   Item #: 29529  

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  Two pictures of the KNOTTER TOOL as seen being worn by a Mill Girl on a previous picture,
Thanks to Roger for the link.

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Comments by Philip Gormley., 4th July 2017  
What a response! There can't possibly be a better image of the Knotter used by Maureen during her service as a Mill Girl.

Comments by Maureen, 4th July 2017  
Not a piece of beautiful golden jewellery..but I loved mine.

Comments by RON HUNT, 4th July 2017  
Just found this.

Comments by Veronica, 4th July 2017  
Excuse me saying this but was the term 'get knotted' actually from doing this job!? The thought just occurred to me!

Comments by Philip Gormley., 4th July 2017  
Veronica - 'Get Knotted' might have had an airing in the Mills, but being subjected to The Cat seems to be its true source - your off the beaten track, so to speak.

Comments by Philip Gormley., 4th July 2017  
I just watched the video, Ron, and it was quite some performance; click-click, job done.

Comments by Roger, 4th July 2017  
Those hand knotters were still in use in the 1970s, some time ago, I met an old acquaintance who worked in Leigh, I think the place was a branch of Eckersleys, they were still used on old cone winding machines.

Comments by Veronica, 4th July 2017  
Of course ...the cat o'nine tails! Learn something everyday Philip.. ,mind you I would have considered myself being punishedif I had stayed winding them bobbins.

Comments by Ed, 5th July 2017  
The knotters where being used at wm tattons in golborne in the 1970s

Comments by A.W., 5th July 2017  
I understand the term "get a cop on" meaning "shift yourself" originated in cotton mills, does anybody know if this is correct?

Comments by Philip Gormley., 5th July 2017  
A.W. - At the risk of sounding just a little bit like the Bruce Forsyth of old, 'Cop' is used in many a 'well-known phrase or saying' and, also, recognised as being 'thread wound on a spindle'.

Comments by Joseph, 5th July 2017  
The term "get knotted" comes from dog mating, the dog can't remove it's penis from the bitch for some time after so they are knotted.

Comments by John G, 6th July 2017  
Joseph: Thank you for your honest bit of information, I'am sure Veronica never thought of that one.

Comments by Spud, 6th July 2017  Mary-18@hotmail.co.uk 
I used to work at trencher field mill on cone winding and used one of these in the 60 s

Comments by Veronica, 6th July 2017  
Thank you Joseph - its definitely not what I expected.

Comments by GW., 7th July 2017  
It would seem we're never to old to learn Veronica. More like being subjected to the Dog than the Cat 'ey Mr Gormley!

Comments by Philip Gormley., 7th July 2017  
Una Maguire, a spokeswoman for Carnival Films i.e., Downton Abbey, maintains that 'Get knotted' is 19th century naval slang. But what about Ron Hunt's youtube suggestion! 'Boyce Weaver's Knotter' will also find it.

Comments by Joseph, 7th July 2017  
While I agree it does sound like a Naval term, "Get Knotted" in dog breeding goes much further back than the 19th century.

Comments by John G, 7th July 2017  
Phillip Gormley: Hi Phillip looking at the different descriptions I think I like Joseph's, it's more colourful, more discriptive, more how can I say nearer the bone so to speak,I just hope Veronica doesn't ask to find what a stitch in time means that could end up rather embarrassing, any way I do hope your keeping well and your out with the water colours, you should be displaying them Phillip.

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