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Hanway

Started by: dostaf (inactive)

What was at one time also known as a Hanway?

Bowt googlin. Was on a quiz show recently.

Google tells me it was so-called after the first man in London (allegedly) to have one.

I had wrongly expected Hanway to be the name of a manufacturer, as with Hoover and vacuuum cleaner.

Started: 25th Jan 2013 at 15:34

Posted by: hindleyite (3995)

Umbrella.Question on the chase yesterday.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 16:24

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



Mr Hanway fell foul of Hackney carriage drivers.

Hanway was the first Londoner, it is said, to carry an umbrella, and he lived to triumph over all the hackney coachmen who tried to hoot and hustle him down.[1] He attacked vail-giving, or tipping, with some temporary success; by his onslaught upon tea-drinking he became involved in controversy with Johnson and Goldsmith.

Wiki

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 16:31
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Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I didn't know the answer bowt google.

onslaught on tea-drinking:

"In the eighteenth century, things began to change and social commentators were criticizing tea, not as a drink but as an evil social force. In 1757, Jonas Hanway (wrote) an extremely damning essay on tea ... It was not so much the tea that he condemned but the cost of the tea and the time taken to brew and drink it."

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 16:44
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Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

All that tea supping caused me to initially think that a Hanway was a piano.

Then realised I was thinking of Steinway.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 16:46

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Tetley's may have done for my little earl grey cells too.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 16:48

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

(in) 'a little book with a long title, published in 1787, written by "John Pugh," I find many curious anecdotes related of Hanway, and apropos of umbrellas, in describing his dress Mr. Pugh says, - "When it rained, a small parapluie defended his face and wig; thus he was always prepared to enter into company without any impropriety, or the appearance of negligence."

link

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:06

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

'parapluie'



Expect a blow to the bonce from Mache's bumbershoot when he see that, Jo Anne.

Never thought of a camp gamp keeping make up on the fizzog dry.

Not that I'm suggesting Hanway used a powder puff. But if he had a wig?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:11

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

He clearly acted like a big wig, Dostaf, and for that there does seem to be some foundation.

Jonas Hanway:

'The rest of his life was mostly spent in London, where the narrative of his travels (published in 1753) soon made him a man of note, and where he devoted himself to philanthropy and good citizenship.'

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:16

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

I wonder if he was in favour of shiving umbrellas up chimneys instead of little lads?

Old conundrum

"What goes up a chimney down?

And down a chimney up?"

An umbrella.

(A method of sweeping a chiimney, together with rope tied to brolly)

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:19

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Possibly bugger all to do with cleaning them.

Just a riddle:

What goes up a chimney down but won't go down a chimney up?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:22

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

He did hope people would consider a sootable alternative.

'gamp n Brit informal an umbrella

[after Mrs Sarah Gamp, a nurse in Dickens' Martin Chuzzlewit, who carried a faded cotton umbrella]
'

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:24

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



Time for a song with bumbershoot in it

And while we're at it.

Maori Parpens

Any unsuspecting reader could be forgiven for thinking that thei entire therad was contrived by me as a vehicle to put those two Dick Van Dyke numbers on.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:29

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

And while (not why) we're tandeming.

I like the bicycle powered hair cutting machine in CCBB.

Though this left Arthur Mullard in a bit of a state.

So much so, that a gang of stereotypical urchins taunted him by shouting 'Big Bonce'.

I like the word bonce, it always makes me chuckle. (See 17:11 ^^^)

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 17:43

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

"And while (not why) we're tandeming" Such pedantic antics.

"I like the word bonce" You've mentioned that bonce or twice before.

CCBB - I can't remember the bike - did it keep you in trim as it trimmed?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:06

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

No, Jo Anne, the bike, complete with trailer if memory serves, not only provided transport for Potts's mechanical hair cutting thing, but also the power for it.

A gubbiins was placed on the head of the punter, then Potts pedalled away. In the scene, smoke issued forth.

Mullard gave chase, then Potts hid in the back of the show-tent prior to joining in the Morris Dancers routine to avoid a duffing up.

Note how he isn't in the full costume like the rest of the 'real' dancers.


If you look at the comments under the clip, someone mentions the age difference between the lads dancing and Dick Van Dyke.

He was 44 while they were in their early twenties.

Certainly a trouper.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:13

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

paktype 8 months ago

Dick Van Dyke has said that this was the most difficult dance number he ever participated in. At the time of filming, he was 44 years old and the oldest of the other dancers was 22. Some of them were in their late teens. Van Dyke said that keeping up with them was next to impossible and this was the last time he tried a number like this. You can see where Van Dyke ran off screen just before the middle part of the number, and reappears later.

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Me old bamboo

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:15

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

An angry Mullard can be seen at 0:09

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:21

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

You're trying to bamboozle us. 25th Jan 2013 at 17:29

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:22

Posted by: mache (inactive)

Yus mi'dear

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:23

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



Yus My Dear as a series featuring Arthur Mullard.

Also, bowt googlin, he was in one called 'Romany Jones' with James Beck (Walker from Dad's Army) .

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:30

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

We can see this is one of your specialist subjects, Dostaf.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:36

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Not really.


Mind you, an adopted Wiganer did very well on Mastermiind with his knowledge of Father Ted.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:40

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Magnus had a long reign hosting Mastermind, between 1972-1997.

Do you think it might rain?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:51

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Mastermind

In 2005 he was crowned champion of Mastermind: his specialist subjects included Father Ted, the books of Iain M. Banks and the films of Quentin Tarantino.


Pat Gibson

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 18:57

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

"A software developer has become the Mastermind 2005 champion - a year after winning the top prize on the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? quiz show. Patrick Gibson, 42, from Wigan, Greater Manchester, became the 28th winner of the title on the BBC Two programme.

Mr Gibson won the title by answering questions on the TV comedy Father Ted. His previous subjects included the novels of Iain M Banks and Quentin Tarantino films. He beat five finalists with 31 points and no passes.

In April 2004 Mr Gibson won £1m on ITV1's Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? - but he still works part time. Mr Gibson, who is married with two children, is originally from Galway in Ireland. "

Pat Gibson's Father Ted questions.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:00

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Anyroad, sticking to the topic , I wonder if you can get a Bulgarian umbrella in Wigan?

Not that I would want one by the way.

I shouldn't want anyone to do a post-googlin report on me.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:10
Last edited by dostaf: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:11:10

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Here's a conundrum....You only have one eye.
Do you Blink, or Wink?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:21

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

'Bulgarian Umbrella' I had to look that up. You're wise to avoid people taking umbrage.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:27
Last edited by jo anne: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:28:08

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

No winking on my lovely thread, Unless with them '' doingses.



Umbrage

a. Something that affords shade.
b. Shadow or shade. See Synonyms at shade.


Was unaware of that use of the word.


Bulgarian Umbrella

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:34
Last edited by dostaf: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:01:40

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

'Was unaware of that use of the word.' Me, too.

Less shady - Bulgaria Umbrella

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 19:55

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

You jammy bugger, Jo Anne.

I know that pic must have taken some finding.











Because I looked and couldn't find one.

I mistakenly remembered him having a brolly, rather than a stick.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:01
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Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Adding 'Great' got this

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:06

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

That's how I found it - 'Great' finds link alike.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:09

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



I even looked for a Wombles umbrella.

Nowt doing. We must have had either less rain, or not as much merchandising when they were in their pomp.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:12

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I don't think the rain, in them days, fell mainly on the plain? I'm sure I remember Womble umbrellas from when I was little.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:19

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Wombles - which Womble often needed a little forty 's to get his strength up before he could start work?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:29

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Never mind that, on this of all nights.

Where's Cousin Cairngorm McWomble the Terrible, on that link.

I may put him on the other (Burns) thread.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:43

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Was he a real Womble?!

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:46

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

He's here!

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:49

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

To be honest, I thought I remembered a female Scottish Womble.

But google found Cairngorn for me.

I think there was some nasty business wiith his bagpiing in the burrow/house or whatever it is they live in.

Another bloody question to lose sleep over.

What do wombles live in?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:51

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Burrow my link ^^^

Did you know Robert Burns never wore a kilt?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:52

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Hang on.

Mists of time clearing.

Did Bungle once find a set of bagpipes?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:53

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Do you mean Bungo? (Bungle's from Rainbow which fits well with topic.)

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:56

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:57

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

But what about my link?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 20:59

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Sorry I'd missed it. Too busy looking for what they live in. Wiki told me burrows.

Also mentioned in your link.

MacWomble’s burrow is situated within a cliff on the side of Loch Ness. The exterior of the burrow has been made to look like a castle over the years. MacWomble has big problems keeping the huge underground chambers tidy. In all the Series, he wears a kilt and a Scottish hat. He is named after the range of mountains near Loch Ness in Scotland.


'Scottish hat'

That's a bit vague, isn't it?

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:03

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

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Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

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Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I pipped you to the post!

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:14

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

That's because I was busy looking for a pic of Ursula Andress in 'Casino Royale' (1967)

Here

Coincidentally, those bagpipes were as lethal as a Bulgarian umbrella. They incorporated a machine gun.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:20

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I'm multi-tasking too, watching the telly. Room 101 and now Great Night Out.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:25

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Haven't fancied Great Night Out, as it had a look of Two Pints of Lager about it. (Only seen preview clips)

May give it a look in the future.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:34

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I quite like it, but then again I quite liked Two Pints of Lager, sometimes, too.

Hanway pictures.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:42

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Oooohh, pic 2 could be asking for bother.

First Englishman. I thought it was first Londoner.

Or that's what Wiki told me.

Yon kid in pic one reminded me of a coracle mon (not cockle mon).

See 'Oracle' thread.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:45
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Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:51

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



Worse than being seen wiith a 'manbag' and less practical no doubt.

You'd think us Northerners wouldn't have followed in the Southern softie's footsteps.

Despite us having more rain.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:55
Last edited by dostaf: 25th Jan 2013 at 21:57:23

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Coracle Hanway was definitely an oracle.

'a. A person considered to be a source of wise counsel or prophetic opinions'

'The first man who ventured to dare public reproach and ridicule by carrying an Umbrella.'

I'm glad he did not succumb to jeer pressure.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 22:17

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Like water off a duck's back, in fact.

Replied: 25th Jan 2013 at 22:20

 

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