Marden
What is/was one?
I don't mean like some people.
Occupation
Baptism: 9 Oct 1832 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann Dobb - 1st. Daur. of James Dobb & Elizabeth
Born: 21 Jul
Abode: Wallgate
Occupation: Marden
Baptised by: J. Paley
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 221, Entry 1761
Source: LDS Film 1885678
From here
Started: 30th Oct 2012 at 18:30
Misspelling of Warden?
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 18:37
Aha!
Baptism: 2 Jul 1832 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Atherton - 2 Son of Thomas Atherton & Elizabeth
Born: 24 Mar
Abode: Wallgate
Occupation: Mardant
Baptised by: J. K. Glazebrook
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 194, Entry 1547
Source: LDS Film 1885678
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 18:53
But what is/was a mardant? This could keep you occupied for a while more.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:00
Me and google are looking into it.
I've heard of a mordent (sp), a chemical ingredient for fixing colours when dyeing cloth, or similar.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:04
Mordant
Wrong tree?
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:06
Mordant Maker - Made a chemical known as Mordant, used in fixing the dye in cloth. This was obtained, amongst other chemicals, from the vapours given off from 'stewing' charcoal
Google mentioned that to me, too.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:07
Typing of wrong trees. Bark was used in tanning.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:08
19:08 - Was the bark worse than this bite?
The term mordant comes from the present participle of French mordre, "to bite".
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:14
What has an Christmas tree got to do with it?
Woof
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:16
Tannenbaum
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:18
That's not fir.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:40
Not to be mistaken for hearts of oak.
Traditionally, tanning used tannin, an acidic chemical compound from which the tanning process draws its name (tannin is in turn named for an old German word for oak or fir trees, which supplied it).
wiki
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 19:48
'Hearts of oaks' If you can't beat with them, you can always joiner
Not all's fir in love and war:
Looking for this line here - 'Outside of these gates were tanneries, gardens, orchards ... ' - not even sure it relates to Wigan - I read this:
The Earl of Derby left Wigan on the night of the 26th August and rode to his friends at Boscobel House ... The Earl of Derby helped King Charles II to escape by taking them to his friends at Boscobel House. Firstly he hid in an oak tree whilst the Parliamentarian soldiers searched for him.
Tandem!
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 20:29
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Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 20:51
But not quite.
I wonder if the records were marred and Marden / Mardant arose from mistakes?
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 21:37
dostaf Have you not found out yet what a marden was. You have had quite enough time.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 21:57
I've been sidetracked.
Brain's gone numb trying to find out who a kid on telly looks like.
Finn Burridge (Arthur in The Paradise) reminds me of a younger version of a comedian chap.
I think he's been on Have I Got News For You.
There's a thought.
Ardent productions may know.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:02
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:05
stop making excuses.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:16
Well said, Marie.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:17
A Marden could be a multi-tasker.
Still not found the bugger.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:20
Chris Addison?
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:22
Nope.
Bloke is a bit fangy if memory serves. Straight hair. Possibly in his thirties.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:26
You're a multi-asker, Dostaf.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:29
'Fangy'
That's David Bowie ^^^. I don't know if he's a Marden or not. But he has a slight look of that comic what's doing me yed in.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:30
You've had all day to find out what a marden is and it's not good enough.
Replied: 30th Oct 2012 at 22:44
Now you've clocked back on ... What is / was a Marden / Mardant?!
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 10:32
Did you see the steam locomotives on Monday, Mache?
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 10:40
But you might be on to something with Marden in Kent.
Have you been and what did do you do there, Mache?
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 10:48
dOSTAF IN A VERY VERY OLD BOOK i FOUND A== Marden IS SCIENTIFIC WORK SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE INSIDE OF A TRIANGLE ,PLEASE DONT ASK ME TO WRITE IT ALL BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT i WILL TRY
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 16:12
Last edited by elizabeth: 31st Oct 2012 at 16:15:27
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 16:27
Thats more or less the same in my book, the book was my Dads, do you think this is what you are seeking could this person be a Scientist of such
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 16:34
The theorem is named after the person, not the occupation, Elizabeth.
Morris Marden
I'm just curious as to what it could be after coming accross it looking for tanners, Elizabeth.
No personal connections etc.
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 16:38
Sorry I led you up a Gum Tree
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 21:05
You've had two days now to find out what a marden was and not come up to scratch. It's not good enough.
Replied: 31st Oct 2012 at 22:19
No worrries whatsoever, Elizabeth.
It's just a whimsy. Thanks for taking the trouble.
Marie:
Enough wiith the condemnation. Blame Google (I do)
Trouble with google, is every turn you take there are nakky women and stuff. Sometimes even uniforms, which suggests an occupation.
So when I looked for images of 'Mardent' and found ladies wearing uniforms, I got quite distracted. Especially as I don't know their lingo. Though I am trying.
From here.
I don't think them sort would have been practising in Wigan all those years ago (1832).
The search goes on.
Replied: 1st Nov 2012 at 01:47
Last edited by dostaf: 1st Nov 2012 at 01:51:53
Yes, Jo Anne, I suspect it will remain a mystery.
Probably a mis-spelling.
Replied: 1st Nov 2012 at 14:38