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Lets hope we have a better year than last year.More good new than bad.

you're right peter I hope we do, 2020 was dreadful and has destroyed famalies and business.

bloody hell dav is it that time alredy ? .

I am very hopeful for 2021, My best wishes to everyone at W.W.

Hi Bri, New thread for hopefully a better New year.

Same here Alan, very best to everyone.

whups , --Have you read --Fred's book-- I worked there the time he is talking about and knew all the named people a good few come off the estate you my know some of them, Bentlegs was drilling on his hands & knees 10.00 o'clock shift at that time

Tumtingle, Fred sent me the book he had written , My broter in law want to borrow it but it will take some finding,, Me , MY dad, & brother Tom get a mention in it, Quite interesting,

Bam Bam, Thanks lad, thar a brick.

no iv,e not dougie but it looks interesting . some of them i knew , but i wish my old man was here & i,m sure he would know most of them.

Yes I remember you having the A4 paper manuscript of his book, you gave it to read,

whups, Deleted this off People, saving it in case I ever re-upload
As for Wood pit that Sunday when the fire started my brother was working on the surface when he got a phone call from underground telling him about the fire and call out the rescue team straight away and act as go between, they told him not to bring anyone up till we arrive, don't know what went on underground other than they brought the men up and flooded the pit there and then never to open up again after that Sunday in 1970 (they may both have been on the mine recue team)

Whupsy

So yoo were working down't pit in 1948

TTS read what whups printed he said he knew some of the names and his DAD would have known them.

it shows wot a numpty you really are 1stroke.

Two ex Downall greeners have passed away, Tereasa Hession & her brother Gerald.

hi bentlegs,when did they die. they where our neighbours on elm avenue.so sad they where lovely people,even though Gerry did not remember me last time i see him,ps Ihope you and Molly are doing well.

Was Gerald married to Irene pilling.

Hi Bert, I dont know when they passed away i only found out myself from Pat Doyle a couple of days ago, They were a lovely family,

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Hi Trixie hope all is ok with you. My Mum's booked in for her first vaccine on Tuesday afternoon. Has to go to Robin Park Leisure Centre for it, would have been much easier for her to go to her GP's surgery but apparently they are not doing them.

Oh yes Malc, Bet you and our Malc are gutted and probably hiding behind the curtains at todays result

Ha Ha, you're so right suesa them two always been Leeds mad.

dont forget curtsy as well dav.

oh yes Bri, totally forgot about Barry he would make the threesome.

Draw curtain suesa poo them of rails bloody ell fire give regards to your mam suesa

Heehee Malc, you'll feel better about it......... in time
Will pass your message on to mum thanks

hi Dave Gerry was married to Irene.not seen her for years.and Malc that team of yours where shit,i had them on coupon,and they let me down.have you heard of Gerrard.hope he is ok.

Thy reet. Bert they weren't that good Sunday not heard of Ged for long time lost is mob no pal if he rings I tell him take care pal mis them football trips we had good team then

Trixie, Have you lost some family members latley?

No bent legs as I know off.

Hi everyone time to come out of hibernation and look forward to spring, Now Sunday morning with nothing to do, someone ask me is there other ways to get into the Dell without going through the churchyard and as every old ex-Downer Greener would say YES but there's not, ?? is there as I couldn't find one .
So why up there looking I had never been for a look round the Dell for over 20+ years and I'm ashamed to upload the 3 videos that I made showing the state it's in, before anyone pulls them to peace's it was just a walk through with no intention to make something nice to upload but would like you to see it as if you was doing the walk ---Will Delete them--Go full screen
--Dell (1)-------Dell (2)--

Thanks for videos dougie, brought back good memories spent a lot of my youth in there, I see it's well overgrown now, we gained access at side of Millingford and walked round to left or used the entrance at parish hall on rectory rd, you can tell today's youth don't visit, there used to be well walked paths in 60s & 70s.

I know its not DG but I drove down Bolton RD towards Bamfurlong and the grass verge has been cut back along a section of the road and now it just looks like a sea of plastic. The Dell will be the same cut the undergrowth back and there will be tons of rubbish

Bambam--the young of today don't respect things like we did and I see teenagers walking throw the churchyard to get into the Dell, not saying they are vandalising either the churchyard or the Dell but if they allow access to the Dell there should be an entry other than the graveyard, as for people with dogs walking throw some not all let their dogs run free in the graveyard and they only take their dogs for exercise and one thing.

PeterP--Your right but now is the time to do a litter pick before it starts to grow your suggestion is only papering over the cracks, the volunteers in the churchyard are doing and have done a first class job over the last year, I wouldn't expect them to even look or think at doing anything in the Dell, saying that they must have some good organisers/motivators in their group it's only extra helpers they need, willing to come along to give their time for a weekend litter picking Sat/Sunday, I'm sure they would arrange the knew voluntary pick-up weekend outside their team

dougie do you know who actually owns that land we call the dell, there is some nice timber there with fallen trees, anyone with a chain saw and wood burner could have a field day in there, the right people will make good use of that timber.

Great days and nights in there I the was several places you could get in dell cut though side of bell was 1 but it's all changed now all the skoo needs to be fenced off now days it's sad really but there you go kids don't play out now glad I was born when I was all kids played gether back then stay save everyone

No idea bambam as far as I know it's all church land and where the school field is now was for a new graveyard as the other was getting full but that was years ago, everything seems to have change with the school getting bigger, the selling of the Rectors house, Building of the new Vicarage plus the opening of the Rectors lawn as part of the graveyard.

We all know nothing could ever take place with out first getting permission to move old wood, but I don't think anyone would stop a voluntary pick-up of the rubbish as I was suggesting one weekend, you should see how bad it is

It's sad Dougie but it's the times we live in today it's a shame . There's no morrol s today Young uns don't want know cornt get them do out at work

it,s spelt morals malc

Tickles me does Malc, Thas getten be a dener greener understond him.

Mi mam sed ther wuz nout up wi mi spelin that ull do for me he he

Dag-- Tell them both You can upload photo's for everyone to see to they can't

Cont do that Dougie have forgeet mi sel

we can tell that with your replies malc , it,s not exactly queens english

Why dust think queens bothered about us up north bri abet you spoke queens English in pit how are doin pal anyway a nough queens fòr now .

Dougie i went to school with your brother Kenneth and i was wondering what has happened to him

Hi and welcome to the Downall Green thread Dylan hope you enjoy it and join in well are a friendly bunch on here, please tell us a bit about yourself without giving anything away see if people on here can work out who you are as you have started by saying (I WENT TO SCHOOLWITH YOUR BROTHER), he is O.K. only going old like the rest of us, still going out for pint well that's if the lockdown was lifted, not seen him for a few months and he only lives in Low Bank Rd but I phone him he is like the rest of us, as sick as a parrot having to stay inn

P.S. Where do you live ? joined 23rd July 2010 and this is only your second post not just on here but on WW it self, you may make them think

i lived at 35 leyland green rd,i now live at worsley hall.wigan .my name is Kenneth Moore

Ken your dad was a very good snooker player I don't know how he potted um but he did n never got down to ball how's TUC doing

Shaking my head, you shouldn't have told us that so I take it you must be Ken Moore's lad the snooker player from the village club if so knew him well 50/60s, in fact we were only calling him on here a few weeks ago

he means your john ken.

Whups--I think you forget my age I was meaning his dad I was going in the Village club in1956/7 as a member, you couldn't buy beer but you could play Snooker and Darts even Bowls, it was his Dad I was talking about

I think where all getting crossjockult maybe it's me wit queen's English Dougie Brian said John cos his nick name was Tuc his just saying to Ken I mean John

Dougie, thanks for the help in the cemetery with the notices. Were going to be involved in making a memorial site for the pit miners that have lost their lives down the pits, going to be on the plot opposite the Simms, quite a big project but hoping to have artefacts and brass plaques with other ideas involved. Cant do much yet until the lockdown is lifted but any ideas are welcome.

thanks,---do you think he could have hidden himself from you all with the name he posted under

That's very good, fully agree with something like that good luck with it I've seen the tree that's been planted, a lot of mining history in garswood YOU should find as much general history of the area before it's lost for ever.
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Did you know a man hung himself in the pub years ago, a store to this if you ask involving Lord of the Manner

the reply was,nt to you dougie it was for ken moore .

Sorry whups-- wrong end of stick again I was thinking he couldn't know Ken the Dad, think he had a lad called Peter and a girl.

Did you see I asked Tuddy about Joe Chicheley he didn't know he said ask whups he may know if he worked at stonse's or Wood pit, it was just a name form the past another his mate (Abb ) Albert Haydock never seen them and Abb only lived at Simm's Road

Nice to see another old greener on here, I been trying remember young ken but he must be older than me I can only remember john, Peter, and I think Sandra, I worked with their mother Francis at makerfield mill in 70s, and had many a pint with Ken in village club.

If you look he said I went to school with you Ken, so that would put him at 74/5 years old he could have had a good laugh at you lot trying to guess the person behind the name, unless you all knew him as Dylan

Look at the through traffic on her after his first post I hope to see more of you younger ex-greener's coming on here

Well Warren will know if they had owder brother

I remember where they lived, cos councillor Burrows lived next door, do you remember Gordon Malc.

there was 2 older brothers than tuck malc ,ken is the eldest & the next down i cant remember his name . joe crich may have worked at the wood pit but i cant remember if he worked at stones . if i find anyting out dougie i,ll let you know .

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Gordon now living on Victoria rd Dave his is mam still with us Dave he was a good lad Gordon

Not sure Malc, if his parents are still with us they will be a really old age now, I remember them being a lot older than my parents when I went school with Gordon, I ain't seen him in Donkeys.

Ken Moor lived next door but one to me, Warren lived next door to me & next door to Ken Moor,Me & his dad did lot of reading. Do you understand all that Tumingle?

Yes Tumtell ---Whups uncle John & Auntie Nora Scully, when first married lived in lodgings on Leyland Green Road next to the top house in 1954 (don't know the number) but their name was Duffy Johns sister, I knew most of the people living their in the 40/50s as you even worked in pit with some including YOU, your Dad, and brother Tom, how is he not seen hem for years hope everything OK we knocked about together till I found a Girl friend then everything changes as you know

dougie, would that be the house Dennis Irvine later lived in.

I remember Dennis fotchin jam tarts from Cale lane bakery everybody shared then

I remember that Malc,he worked there with my uncle, Dennis was a good singer.

dougie it was my uncle percy & aunty eilean who had the house next to bert leach . thats where they must have been before they got the house in cedar grove .

Beat me to it about Percy Duffy Whups. Tumtingle my brother Tom moved down to the south coast last year , Never had a word with him from the day he went, I rang him up a while ago but got no answer so i don,t know how he is.

yes bentlegs my dad lived there for a while with my uncle percy until he got married.

hi Bam Bam,Kens brother was Geoffrey or cow as we knew him ,he was a year older than me.we used to do some gardening for Rector Hall.

Thanks Bert, I didn't know there was 2 more brothers only knew John & Peter, I used mate with Gordon burrows who lived next door and Paul Garnett who lived further up at number 43.

bert is that the brother between ken & john (tuck) ? .

Hi Bri, hope you're OK and in good health have you had your vaccine yet, I was surprised to learn that ken had 2 more son's I thought I knew all famalies on estate, but there you go you learn summat every day I would have thought I should have bumped into them having pals on Leyland Green Rd.

Nice to see everyone talking again on here, your a different generation than me but we were just like you lot with names.
You may or may not have seen I asked for a few helpers to join me one weekend not as a VOLUNTEER but a HELPER to come and give your time after the lockdown to work under the supervision of Mr&Mrs Murphy, for a one off pick-up in the Dell, all you need is gloves and just fill one plastic bag, I guarantee you would fill it that quick you'll ask for another bag.
-----For anyone that missed these video's have a look---- --Dell (1)-------Dell (2)-- --- What the Dell could look like when cleaned-up--- uploaded by Tonker for us to look at

Hi whups yes Geoff was in between Ken and Tuck. Ken used to carry a transister radio with him whenever you saw him when he was young.they where all nice lads but Geoff was a little bit Rum.i willsay no more.

yes bert i,ve had the jab . ken moore had 4 sons & 1 daughter . i could never remember the 1 that,s older that john ( tuck ) as he is the same age as me . he was a bit of a black sheep at the time if i remember & maybe you can remember him ? .

He must of been a rum un bert with a nickname like cow.

iv,e had the jab dav.

TUC went out with Kenny Lomax cousin cornt think of her name tho

The daugher is Dawn Moore

he married her malc.

That's good Bri, I'm still waiting for letter.

yes dav i was supposed to go to the saints ground for it but the doctors down the road came to my house & did it .

That was good of em Bri, saves you're knees a lot of pain.

yes it does dav & 3 buses too.

Dougie do you not remember my other grandma she lived in lilac ave her name was Elisbeth simm

Dag27--We never knew or called anyone by the first name in 40/50s it would have been Mr&Mrs Simm did they originate from Downall green Road by any chance

--- What the Dell could look like when cleaned-up--- Tonker said he would a bit of painting for us to make it look better if we cleaned it up

Too true Dougie, in the 40s, we children were never allowed to call adults by their first names, then, being polite really meant it.

Dougie do you not remember my other grandma she lived in lilac ave her name was Elisbeth simm

hi malc . have you got rid of your covid headache yet .

No me n wife both possitive

isolation for 10 days then malc .

I Iam bri

never mind malc it,ll end soon .

Thank godfor Leeds I watched that game last neet Chelsea n Newcastle I would sooner watch Leeds lose boring Chelsea and clueless Newcastle it's been a shocking 12 months bri for everyone for these older un s and these living in blocks of flats

sammy might be joining you malc ? .

Hi Only me again, went to St-Oswald churchyard in Ashton yesterday and was very surprised to see all the work that's been going on in there, I didn't video mush as a funeral was taking place and didn't want to get people on it, all work had stopped but on my way out I took this --Short clip-- if anyone is interested

It looks good Dougie tidy that some nice pieces of timber too theer make some good stuff wi that lot well done

dooneys in there malc . have you been to see him yet ? .

No bri will do if I pass tho he was r reet pat was

Ken Ryder passed away this morning so sad only talking to him last week good chap ken was RIP my friend god bless I'll mis you always nice talking to ken knew a lot about downallgreen did ken

Another Good Greener gone Malc, you're correct pal he was a true gent and very nice man indeed, I remember him serving me in shop he had on Rectory rd when I was a youngster.R.I.P Ken.

Last saw Ken at another DG funeral may he R.I.P.

peterp john mckenna,s daughter is trying to get in touch with you on golborne miners blog on facebook about some books you lent him.

whups I dont do facebook but if some one can contact her tell her she can keep them or give to a museum thanks

will do.

--Holy Trinity Church--

I feel I have to upload this new -Kevin Duffy video- yet again made by Jimmy O' .

Some people don't like Jimmy O' but to me he as come across as a very good interviewer he let Kevin do most of the talking it's the best I've ever seen that Jimmy O' as made, you must watch it to the end as Keven comes across as we all know he (A down to earth man he his)

Thanks dougie, that was great I enjoyed the tour around kevin's garden, he is still the same down to earth guy and fantastic character he's always been, the lad has worked hard and done a tremendous job of the land he required many years ago, I need to go see him when this lockdown is lifted.

dav , do you know ste davis who took up with tracy kelly ? .

Hi Bri, no I don't think I do pal.

Hi Bri, no I don't think I do pal.

it,s just that 1 of his daughters who lives in birch grove is very pooly

No posts for a week now, I hope everyone is OK.

Hi David are you still in pub pal I think where getting there now with this covid hope everyone is ok will aft keep save for wile yet tho take care

Hi malc, no I had to get out of pub they sold it to make executive flats it's been a nightmare for me since Xmas, it put my daughter out of a job as well, but onward and upwards as they say hope you all OK malc I will have a pint with you one day perhaps have another reunion when it's safe to do so.

where r u now then dav ? .

Hi Bri, I now live just off frog lane I know a lot of people around here so it makes it a bit easier.

Morning Dave sorry to hear that pal hope you and your are ok I know you've been in pub game quite a while helping out with Donna but I think your both will be better off this side off bar pal brewery's all for the sells and have been a long time it's a past time now how's Mrs Lewis hope she's doing ok good luck to you all not be long now I hope take care

as long as your ok dav .

Yes I'm fine thanks Bri, had me jab on thurs no side effects just a sore arm.

Dougie has not posted for a while, I hope he is OK.

Hi Alan, I hope he's ok to I know he has been working hard trying to raise funds for holy trinity church the bloke has taken great interest in that and I hope they hit their target.

Hi Alan85, --Dougie looks on here every time I put the computer on but no one as anything to say, only for whups keeping us informed of things Bam-Bam may as well turn the lights off I know but true, just like to add with the lockdown and no socialising I've kept myself fit and active by going to the churchyard on my tod litter picking after all the lazy people that go to attend a family grave then just throw rubbish anywhere, over the last two weeks I've picked five big bags up and on,
Saturday they had been to put flowers on for Mothering Sunday and left the Christmas pots all over the place for daft Dougie keeps me fit better than any gym at my age

Alan85 , I have a Dashcam running when out and about in the car just in case anything should happen and I need evidence, this is 1min of my way home from Old Road to the Robin Hood pub --Here-- if you would like a 10min run round any area just ask

Hi dougie, I recognised the old bingo hall on right, I worked there when it was Queens and mad jacks night club, it was part owned by an ex downallgreener do you know what it is today.

dav i think it,s called the plantation ? .

Thanks Bri, do you know if it's same owners.

no, john lick sold it to joe smith & when he died they sold it to 3 business men .hence the change in name & decor. dav did you know jimmy maguire from haydock who used to go in the bell with andy coward & other punk rockers ? .

Yes Bri I know jimmy had many a pint with him in bell.

Jimi died he was accident a few years back I don't know if that was couse of it RIP jimi good lad played football for bell

That's a shock Malc, good lad was jimmy when I worked at hospital there was another lad from that band who was and still is a porter, his name was mally. R.I.P Jimmy.

that,s wot i was going to ask dav.

Hi Bri, that was sad news, I remember them playing on bluebell car park and Derek higham & Mark prior was punks at the time happy days.

Morning Dave I know mally Jimi got mally playing for bell to went skoo wi Mal bri went to Scottish cup final with Jim 1984 great time up there rip

do you remember that van pulling up on the car park dav . when they got out it looked like they,d let out at the bird aviary at chester zoo

Ha ha I do Bri, I remember Andy coward had different coloured hair everyday in fact they all did, Dek Higham & Mark prior had spiked hair, they was all great lads though, what was band called I think it was Anarchy in the uk, they had a good crowd to,happy days.

with those boots & spiky hair made dek look 7 feet tall .

Ha ha I remember that.

Morning David it was called the system that bad of Jimi s Arthur Williams was making a packet that day till all the posh UN's on rectory rd got it stoped how you doing pal mam ok

i think it was harry howard or his brother that got it stopped malc . they were heavily involved with the church .

dav iv,e put some pics on album of the punk concert on the bell car park .

Got em Bri, cheers pal brings back good memories of the gang happy days.

sorry dav to announce the death of big chris bolan . yet another greener gone & i knew you were close dav .

Had some great times with Chris Rip he's been bad quite awhile condolences to all family

Thanks for call Bri, I'm shocked and gutted me and Christopher go back many years, back in the day we boozed everywhere, condolences to his wife Rita children Mandy, shaun, Les, Michael, & Patricia he will be greatly missed he would help anyone out, R.I.P me owd mate.

Hi Bri, had many good times with Chris and Colin in the old chestnut suite, will never forget them times also have good memories of village club with Chris Colin and black jakey do you remember him he was Ritas brother, used to go with Chris at weekends and get our own seafood, cockram for cockles, knott end for muscles & winkles and Ainsdale for shrimps, then come home clean them up and take um in club, they used fight over them, lads was waiting for us on Sunday afternoons they really loved them, and to finish day off we had what they called a free & easy with Chris being lead singer with Houghton weavers, finishing off with Cyril carneys version of the red Robin, absolute fantastic times.

yes dav i knew jakey quite well , is he still with us ? . i remember you & big chris doing the christmas polka in the club . cyril,s version started with "when the wed wed wobin comes bob bob bobing awong " . me & youngy still keep on about that xmas polka to this day . happy days eh dav

Hi Bri, I think jakey is still with us yes the xmas polka what great days they was, and cryl's red robin was so funny, it reminds me of the character from fools and horses when the guy was singing Cwying by Roy orbinson with Raquel.

yes it did dav . like i said happy days

Hi Bri, I was talking to stan boon today and yes ian is his brother, he also remembers you.

thought he would dav .

hi dav heard anymore about big chris ? . have you told spike .

No Bri, mandy said no arrangements have been made yet, yes spike knew someone told his mother.

Getting time Dave,

Hi Bri, christopher's funeral service is on monday 26th at our ladys 10:30 then crem at 12:00.

is it family only dav ? .

Probably will be at crem Bri, but I will be making an effort to attend church, if I can't get in I will stand outside.

Hi Bri, just been informed it's family only in church but they say people can listen outside.

For Tonker from Kenny Cunliffe &Roy Darbyshire

Joe Chisnall my co usin
.died on Sunday night in Garswood House,He had not been well for a long time. Joe was known for his Crown Green Bowling he bowled on the panel. Born in Garswood but lived in Bryn, R I P Joe

Joe Chisnall my co usin
.died on Sunday night in Garswood House,He had not been well for a long time. Joe was known for his Crown Green Bowling he bowled on the panel. Born in Garswood but lived in Bryn, R I P Joe

Thank's, Tumtingle for posting this news, R.I.P. Joe

sorry to hear that bentlegs R.I.P Joe.

Hi Bri, Attended christopher's funeral today but was shocked at the turn out there was only a few people outside the church, maybe it's because of the covid situation.

absolutely dav it was same with my auntie maureen as only immidiate family could go .

i spoke to mick scully, willie Ryder, cyril carrol and ken haslam, also had a chat with young shaun.

did you see our derek there dave ? .

No Bri, Derek was not at church.

How was Cyril Dave I know is not been good last I seen of him was at Christmas I could not make it pal how you doing

Hi Malc, everything ok here pal it was good to see Willie & Cyril but he's not the raging bull he used be when he went in Bell with Vinny Wadsworth, but we are all getting older it's suprising how people have changed when you aint seen em for years, but they was all good lads off estate and would do anything help you.

I they would Dave Cyril was powerful lad back in day and nouty wi it to not seen Vinny for years take care pal

Come on Whups why is Popular Ave/Cedar Grove closed with armed police present

apparently someone tried to take their own life .

Hi Bri, things don't change always summat going on up there.

I heard a woman threatened medical staff with a knife but would not of thought it would need armed police

anyone who produces a weapon of any discription armed police will be deployed . she lives next door to where colin heyes lived.

That's 2nd time armed police have been on estate this year, don't think I would know many people on there now Bri.

Not like it was Dave but know where is I don't know many on theer now

Hi Dougie what was that building on left going up Leyland green rd on edge of field never been used for years I think it was called pop house or was it just farmers building I was walking past other day and I thought that was like that when was young lad was it ever used for out your doing a good job at back of school.and church yard pal take care malc

Dagutd27, The building you asked Dougie about was always known as the Pop Works It is grade 2 listed so that is why the farmer cant knock it down,My mother who would have been 106 years old never knew it to operate.

Thank's, Tumtingle for explaining about the building to us all

Dag 27-& All, Now lockdown is coming to an end of not being able to mix out doors still keeping 2 meters apart we could do with a bit of help, litter-picking in the Dell before all the under growth starts to grow it would only take 2 hours at the most with 5/6 people work one Saturday afternoon,

I would be there to help out and no one think they are to old if under 81, you would have to bring your own stuff

Been making these to help the wild life in the Dell, installed 8 nest boxes, plus 1 terrace block of 4 for the house sparrows, and 3 movable feeding stations, they are here for the time being for the children with Special Needs and learning difficulties to see as many birds as possible

Made so it will tilt either way to make it easier to get out if needed

Needs turning round couldn't manage it myself to high

Hopeful this will be first place to get food after coming from nest

That's good Dougie I was int dell a few wik back all changed in there now I walked alway down to were stone bridge was at back of Jeff Aspinall dwelling is your right it's not looking good it's a shame played and camped out many times in them woods that building on Leyland rd must have been derelict for well over 150 years I know we got move with times but computers games and mob have not helped especially with kids today there Ney out there hands

malc do you remember the building that was at the top of the junction between birch grove & l/green rd on waste land & the big oak tree that was there ? . frank phillips built houses there now ? .

I remember them garages bri I walked all round estate a few wik back brings memories it's not same in car happy days

Whups the building was a row of garages plus about 6 or 7 detached garages some round the back of the others. Attached to the brick garages was a small brick unit which was equiped with the switches for the air raid siren which was positioned on a large telegraph pole at the back of this small building. between the garages and the large tree was a long building with double doors,I cannot remember it ever being used when I liver on Leyland Green Rd .

I remember when there where no Garages are cars on the estate, plus a path 3 foot of grass with a tree in front of every semi house then another path before the road in every street on the estate

Nice Dougie s bit like mucklow houses are now then pal

PeterP said ---Attached to the brick garages was a small brick unit which was equipped with the switches for the air raid siren which was positioned on a large telegraph pole at the back of this small building. between the garages and the large tree.

Peter-- when I was a lad nothing but fields on Leyland Green Rd and the only air raid station and siren was across from the School the one you must be thinking of was the siren for the outcropping for coal that they would sound when about to blast, a few short blasts followed by one long blast then the one to say they had finished blasting

Dag 27-- You bet it was, nicer than Mucklows estate the place was full of trees and shrubs/flowers on all the islands and the corners that you now see tarmacked, where do you think Mucklows got the blueprint for their estate even naming of the street, DG name Trees, they name places in the lake districted

Dougie when I lived on LG road approx 1962-75 there were no opencast workings in the area and can remember some one would test the siren about once a year

Well well fame at last for us greeners it will be nice have a pint or two in the stute bowling shed Dougie take care pal

Dougie how come they never built houses on the land at top of Elm avenue where the new houses are now we used to call sand pit and play football on there and run round pretending we were car n lorry's happy days Dave will remember I do know that gable end fell in on one of the new houses when they where building them cheers

Dougie you might know my cousin John beddows he used go in bowling club he built the only garage on estate apart from the council ones 27 Elm avenue at top on left

Peter , Bentlegs will pop up with the answer as to why it should be there as his Mum & Dad and brother still lived there on LGr, I had left DG by 1962

Dag27--Sure do know John and his Dad Joe, I fact him and his son Joe did a job for me in Low Bank Rd for next to nothing he is still a good friend,
P.S. Been thinking about that garage John built ? did they get to it off rectory road if so that was also the first car on the estate

Dagutd27 when the quacker pit was working they used to pump a lot of water out of the workings. If you walk to the top of the houses on LG rd there were fenced off areas in the fields these were sink holes and it was the same in the fields between Birch grove and Billinge road. Led to believe there is a lot of shifting sand in this area and when they pumped the water out the sand moved. Heard there were plans to build more houses on this land

I can't remember John building it Dougie as I was born in 1964 I lived top house on elm avenue on left that's the house John built I don't know what year that was done what was on the site be fore millingfords

that brick building at the top of birch/leyland green was harry shaw,s fruit & veg garrage the oak tree was on the egde of l/green near the red gates . harry shaw lived at the last terrace house facing lilac & jack sudworth moved into it when harry died.

I remember the siren on telegraph pole at top of Birch grove, it was mentioned on Birch grove (street scenes) in 2011.

dav if you carried on to the top of birch that garage i,m on about was around 10-15yards from that siren . it was waste land & harrys garage for his fruit & veg business was the only building there then . i honestly cant believe that no-one can remember it ? .

I remember it Bri, you can see it on the pic of Birch grove.

where dav as iv,e looked on album & cant find any ? .

Dag27 sorry got mixed up with Elm & Lilac Ave, Millingford engineering was just a buy out name change and upgrade of the old Smithy as far as I know that had been there from the year dot

whups, Harry Shaw's pen was facing Lilac Ave 50s upto him selling up and relocating, their was also a Jack Shaw doing the same thing Fruit/Veg could have been brothers he lived by co-op shop at Moore lane

i can remember him going round selling fruit & veg . that building stood there for quite a few years & knocked it down when the land was sold & built on , the oak tree went as well .

Hi Bri, it's on street scenes Birch grove there is a pic of me at 5 yrs old, you can see garages in background.

which end of birch r we talking about dav ? .

Where siren was near where clarks & hiltons lived.

Dag27, You could have been uploading things like this for them if you had kept on with your uploading any size you wished

Hey well Ney mind Dougie they will find um

I remember throwing bike tyres o them lamp posts they were harder get off than on

where is that pic dougie as it,s very close to where i lived ? . is it in WW ? .

Yes it's the one bambam told us about, I just cropped the part you where talking about off it

Have you found it Bri.

It's on street scenes birch grove bri

I remember them bike tyres all over estate lamp posts, you must have been busy Malc.

We was there was no gadgets then Dave

I remember brian livsleys initials painted on flag under lamp outside your house at elm ave.

Are you not back pub scene Dave I remember that carving in tree at back skoo maxie jet

seen it dav . it had to be post 65 as the bungalows were built .

not quite sure when bungalows went up Bri, but I would only have been a nipper.

They should have put bungalows at other side of birch grove to chaps that would have been nice

Them garages what was at back of s and s did they belong to Esther ferns Dougie

Dougie remember Stan yeats footballer he was very good player I believe no relation to you

dav those bungalows went up while i was in wrightinton in 1965 .when i came out in 66 they were already up .

? Them garages what was at back of s and s did they belong to Esther ferns Dougie---
Don't remember garages at back of S&S club must have been after I had left DG,
The only place I remember Tom & Esther living was the Corn-Mill where the new house's are on the right hand side, on the bend as you go up Spindle Hillock, my Grandmother would get us Pigs bladders blown-up as footballs from there,
---My grandmothers, Mum died at birth and at that time only a few people lived in the village and everyone child called her cousin Anne so she was welcome in every family house

Dag27 The old S & S club was the house of the Downhall family that lived on the Green, that is said how it got the name of Downall Green, the original Greenall family members still live on Rectory Rd I think she is 94 only talking to one of the family a few months ago she still still lives in DG

Cheers Dougie it's nice knowing about old Downallgreen

Dougie you was talking to my wife last week at back of school you was putting them brid boxes up

Thanks for info Bri, it didn't take em long throw them up then did it.

Have they built on that land now Malc, I remember Arthur Baines having a garage there.

The volunteers started back in the Churchyard on the 1st May so if anyone would like to give them a hand, I'm sure Scottie could find you something to do, --Slideshow--

Dougie---
Don't remember garages at back of S&S club must have been after I had left DG,

I know for a fact that the garages were there in 1965, which was after the time you left. Some werent in all that good condition though, so I would have expected they were put up in the late 50's. I think Kathryn Wildings grandfather had one at one time. He kept his Austin in it. You'll probably remember that being parked outside your house on Sundays in the 50's.

yes they were dav . believe it or not arthur speakman had a job on a dumper truck when they were putting them up .

Hi Dave thy Mort leave the gate open else thil build theer

Cheers Bri I didn't know that, yes you're right Malc all land is valuable today, I remember taking short cut through garages from spindle hillock walking home from school, it brought you out on billinge rd at side of s & s club.

Bambam 6 bedroom houses on the site now

Peterp are these 6 bedroom houses private, I take it they will not be council and imagine they will be very costly.

That field at back of Simms rd on left going up from dag here marked for building to Dave

Just thinking of Arthur speakman Bri, he was a character, ironically he ended up living in one of the bungalows after leaving his 4 bedroom in Birch grove.

Just thinking of Arthur speakman Bri, he was a character, ironically he ended up living in one of the bungalows after leaving his 4 bedroom in Birch grove.

Bambam they are private and I think they are selling for £300000 TO £500000 the cul de sac is called Lavender Walk

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