Mains park and Worsley mains

Why aren't they spelled like that.
And what about Dicconson Street. Only in Wigan

True Story,
I used to work for a plumber who lived on Mesnes road, He started his own business and called it after his road, Mesnes Heating, He ordered a new van and wanted it painted as Mesnes Heating, When it came it read Mains Heating, So he changed his company name,,

From Council Website,
Mesnes Park: Interesting Facts -

• Mesnes Park opened to the public in 1927.
• It is the largest park in the town.
• The name Mesnes is derived from the Norman term ‘demesnes’, which refers to the ‘domain’ of the local landowner.
• The park’s football pitches are used by a number of local teams.
• In 1995 the park was extended to the west, creating a contrasting landscape of woodlands, wetlands and grasslands. Today the park has
further increased in area with the addition of the former school playing field.
• When passing through the wooded areas of the park you may spot holes in the tree trunks where woodpeckers have hammered as
they extract insects and create nesting holes.
• The grassland is a developing area, producing a variety of native flora
from May through to September. Species such as Ragged Robin,
Meadow Buttercup and Red Campion are usually the first flowers to
be seen in the early part of the summer.
• The centre houses the Ranger Service and the Pensioners
Association and is open to the public for toilet facilities and sport
changing rooms.
• The park has been awarded the prestigious Green Flag since 2002.
• Much of the woodland areas of the park were planted as part of the Mersey Forest initiative and mainly consist of
Birch, Alder, Willow and Rowan.
• Lying to the rear of the park is the world’s first passenger railway
line, opened in 1830 and linking Manchester and Liverpool.

Very interesting but does it answer the question ? I reckon whoever is responsible must have been an early sufferer of dyslexia

From the council's site, above (if you'd read it you'd've seen it!)
• The name Mesnes is derived from the Norman term ‘demesnes’, which refers to the ‘domain’ of the local landowner.

Mesnes means land 'witheld' by royalty or a major landowner ie: gentry or the church (glebe land)

Tha'sees!

In Billinge the response would be COBBLERS and I don't know where that came from either. Maybe Norman wisdom

In the rest of the World, other than in Billinge, raaaaight, it's common knowledge.
Seriously, I was told about mesnes when I was twenty, by a girl who lived near to Mesnes Park. I asked her, "what does it mean, mesnes, because they have it in Wigan too"!

Explained on T'Wikipedia!

Tonks where they gas or elect main(mesnes)

We could start a meznez campaign

PeterP, I should imagine the gas and electric mains are where they usually are?

Like mezzanine.

No. A mezzanine is a shelf in a house in a roof space!

It has to be half way up the wall on a floor which has a ceiling twice as high as a floor with minimum height.
Not to be confused with flying freehold.
A freehold, of course, is nothing to do with mesnes, or desmesnes. (Because it's in the middle)

What were the Normans doing in Wigan Tonks? What was Wigan's original title?

Wasn't it something like cockup

I'm sure the Domesday Book was invented by Nearly Normal Norman back in the 11th century.

No !!!!

Norman Normal was a DJ in the 'King of Clubs' in the early 1980s

The last line on the council blurb,...
Lying to the rear of the park is the world's first passenger railway line,
opened in 1830 and linking Manchester and Liverpool.
No, sorry, wrong Wigan Council. Where do they find these researchers?

No, sorry, wrong Wigan Council. Where do they find these researchers?
"Nail on Head" Chris Southworth.
The line that runs near the park was originally the Preston Wigan railway, it was opened in 1838.

Chris, you're right. It wasn't the "World's first passenger railway" at all.
In reality, it was the World's first "steam powered, scheduled, passenger service".

I remember two children were hit by a train near the Deanery School in the seventies.

What do you remember about that Terry ?

I remember when it happened and some of the kids from that school saw it, I don't know how the boys got on the line though, saw a people running up the banking possibly teachers, police and ambulance service soon got there.

Yes that is what happened, horrible memories of that day

I'm sure someone came down with a shoe, a bobby a think.

• When passing through the wooded areas of the park you may spot holes in the tree trunks where woodpeckers have hammered as
they extract insects and create nesting holes.

Hmmmmm. Has any of you ever noticed them? Maybe Mick, or someone, could get a photo of them?

Two things:

I didn't know there were football pitches on Mesnes Park, and Mersey Forest initiative? Mesnes Park isn't in the Mersey Basin.

When they say, "football pitches", they actually mean football PITCH, as there's only one. It's right at the back, next to the "International Olympic Sized Tennis Courts". This is it!

terry i was at gidlow school at the time and knew one of the poor childrens brother also had a mate who lived in gordon close worsley hall who was related to the parents of the other child a very sad time...

"Today the park has
further increased in area with the addition of the former school playing field."

Would that be Gidlow school playing field?

Tonker I think there's houses now where gidlow school was

Mesnes Park opened to the public in 1927. • It is the largest park in Newton Le Willows. • The name Mesnes is derived from the Norman term 'demesnes

So does that mean we are pronouncing it incorrectly

No it means that there is another Mesnes Park in Newton-le-Willows, with exactly the same spelling

From Council Website,
Mesnes Park: Interesting Facts -

• Mesnes Park opened to the public in 1927.
• It is the largest park in the town.
• The name Mesnes is derived from the Norman term ‘demesnes’, which refers to the ‘domain’ of the local landowner.
• When passing through the wooded areas of the park you may spot holes in the tree trunks where African Green Monkeys have hammered as
they extract insects and create nesting holes.

Buggers them monkeys

Many years ago I was watching the local news on ITV, where the young female journalist was explaining about an incident in 'Worsley Meznez.' Seemed hilarious at the time.

I was one of many pupils in the Deanery's playground when that train hit the children, who had lived in the small first street directly after the bridge. The train was blasting its horn and we could hear the brakes screeching, and we as pupils were spared actually seeing the tragedy because of the trees on the school's side of the track. Many teachers ran across to the track, and if I remember rightly one of the teachers had to go to hospital because of severe shock.