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Babbies' Yeds

Started by: dustaf (inactive)

How long has that been a Wiganism for steak puddings?

Anybody got an idea.

Pre 1970's?

Started: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:01

Posted by: jarvo (30250) 

1895

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:02

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Sod off.

Is that off a Hollands packet?

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:03

Posted by: jarvo (30250) 

Think about it...

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:04

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:04

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Go on, why 1895, Jarvo?

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:05

Posted by: jarvo (30250) 

It took them 40 years to catch on in Wiggin...True.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:06

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I reckon it's a thing that has entered the language, after some outsiders decided after hearing a few, or even one, say it, that all Wiganers call them that.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:08

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I like this:

Posted by: ©art© (5751)

Savoury(slavvery)Ducks-Faggots-Babbys Yeds, were once known as the sweepings off the butchers floor, wrapped in a pigs caul...

Here

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:13

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)


Posted by: fred mason (1770)

Grew up in Norley Hall and went to Canada in 1965 when Lamberhead Green was not called Lommera Green and steak puds were not called babbies yeds.

Rock on Wiganese.......

Long live the chippies...

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:18

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:21
Last edited by dustaf: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:21:40

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (237)

I worked in Yates chippy in St. Pauls Ave for 12 years and my mum had the chippy on Poolstock Lane near the Bold pub for years and I never once heard the term babbies yed.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:26

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

What sort of era, Joan?.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:27

Posted by: jarvo (30250) 

It's from Haddock...

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:29

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (237)

My Mum had the chippy in the 60s and I worked in Yates in the 80s/90s

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:29

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I heard it from a lad from Earlstown actually.

True!

He told me that we Wiganers called them that.

Thirty years ago.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:30
Last edited by dustaf: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:30:57

Posted by: jarvo (30250) 

I think it's a skit by those funny St Helens folk.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:31

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Thanks Joan.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:31

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

'I think it's a skit by those funny St Helens folk'

You could be right, Jarvo.

And like the 'Pie Eater' nonsense from the Leythers, some of us have adopted it.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 22:33

Posted by: aitch (5487) 

I can recall going to the transport cafe near to the Amberswood Tavern in the early 50s and being told bring thi dad a babbies yed pratoes veg and a small jug oh gravy and ask the woman fot wrap um up weell int taycloth ah took wi mi, so they wouldnt get cowd ont road wom.

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 23:01

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (237)

We used to go to Billy Seddons butchers on Darlington St for his delicious pies with a jug for gravy. And across the road to Ada's chippy with a basin for a 6 o chips with pea wet. and Billy Lunds for our toffee

Replied: 14th Jun 2013 at 23:40

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

aitch, gradely bit o dialect. I con remember it sixties talkin bout Monkeys yeds. Fust time I eard babbies yed wer about 1990. Also recall gooint Benthams dern Newtown for a mixture wi scrapins un a Jublee it cost 10d
Bloody spell checker not wurkin

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 00:12

Posted by: beep54 (1036)

90s for me

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 00:18

Posted by: PeterP (11308)

Beep54 would agree never heard it much more than 20yrs ago10 yrs ago went in an English chippy down south and my niece asked for a steak pudding and the owners had never heard of them Is it a Northern thing

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 06:55
Last edited by PeterP: 15th Jun 2013 at 07:17:08

Posted by: meccy69 (755) 

went int chippy wi work mates one dinner time and I said that con I ave babbies yed chips peys gravy on leave helmet on she looked at mi strange a ment the tin foil lid ha ha hah a every one just brasted owt laughin women said well ave never heard that before

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 07:11

Posted by: beep54 (1036)

Like it meccy, peter they don't do them in east Anglia, think they really are a northern thing

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 08:45

Posted by: Staffie (1058) 

Peter, they don't do them in Devon.(They don't know what they're missing.)

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 12:06

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (237)

I remember when I worked in Yates chippy and a scouse guy came in and asked to throw a pie in the fat, Now that does sound disgusting.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 12:28

Posted by: rio caroni (5077) 

Up Scotch if you ask for a Puddin in a chippy they ask if you want Black, Red or White
Leythers have no idea what a Smack is, if you ask for one in a chippy you'd probably ger a clout

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 12:28

Posted by: ayrefield (4465)

I've heard on Radio Lancashire that the name Babbies yeds for steak puddings originally originated from Darrin, that is Darwin on the map.

It was in the early 1990s that I first heard a steak pudding referred to as a babbies yed in Wigan.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 12:37

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Aitch, was it a reference to steak pudding, or faggots, as suggested by ©art©?

Darwn, Ayrefield. That outs a new slant on it.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 17:11

Posted by: taguantar (inactive)

My mother used to make them from vegetable dripping, swore blind they were healthy, well, my angina is of the mild variety

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 17:29

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Well, if all else fails, there's always Google.

In the slang of some parts of North West England, steak pudding is known as "babby's yead" ("baby's head"). Historically, "baby's head" has also occurred in the slang of the British Armed Forces.

Wiki

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 17:54

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Another intellectual contributes to the infamous UD:

babby's yed


Also known as a steak and kidney pudding, and is used mainly in Northern England. It is pronounced exactly as it is read, and is phonetic of the way us people from Wigan say 'baby's head.' I suppose some people must think that a steak and kidney pudding must resemble a baby's head. Quite funny really.

"I'll have a babby's yed, chips and gravy please"

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 17:57

Posted by: ayrefield (4465)

dustaf, they were being discussed on a Radio Lancashire programme which was about Baxenden and Holland's pies and puddings, they were on about their steak and kidney puddings being nicknamed babby's yeds in chippys, you never know though, it could well have been someone from Wigan who had called into a Darwin chippy whilst out on missionary work and asked for a babby's yed, chips, peas and gravy and they cottoned onto the name.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:41

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)



I'll have to get hold of Victoria Coren.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:44

Posted by: section 8 (2875) 

I've been using the term babbies yed since march 2002 so can rest assured that it originated before then. FACT.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:47

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I first heard it in 1982.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:49

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

Only I recent years have I heard it too.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:54

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

Only I recent years have I heard it too.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:54

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

They repeat on you though

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:55

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

Flippin' eck!

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 18:57

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Strange how you remember things.

I vividly remember who told me, and where.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:05

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:48

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

Rosh gadol!

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:52

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Catering trade?


Most supermarkets still sell steak and kidney puddings but these "babies' heads", as they are known in the catering trade, are nowhere near as popular as pies.

Here

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:56

Posted by: mache (inactive)

A chipy in Atherton sells rag yeds


Can you type rag yeds

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:59

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

" 'Ere's all 'ot, toss or buy!".

Funny folk the suvvern mankeys.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 19:59

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Wrapped in muslin?

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 20:00

Posted by: mache (inactive)

Aye, best I've had for years

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 20:01

Posted by: joseph 1 (inactive)

I can hear the sound of a diesel engine.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 20:02

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Please don't do the Simple Simon one.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 20:03

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

An quiz

Well, an advert really.

Cheeky Mancs.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 20:48

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

And the Lord alone knows what a 'babby's fot' is.

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 21:01

Posted by: mache (inactive)

Is it summat fot babby

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 21:03

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

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Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 21:06

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)


So, in the end, folks, it looks like the only thing behind the term "babby's yead" is the Brits' penchant for odd names; but this shouldn’t really come as a surprise, as it's usually the case with most British cuisine. On a more normal note... Wait! I just received news via Twitter! Steak and kidney pie is called "babby's yead" because of the fact that it's cooked in a bowl and then flipped, which makes it look like a baby's head when served! Oh, well, that explains everything! Everything except for the question of why someone would want to imagine that their pudding's a baby's head, but we'll leave that for another day.

Here

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 21:42

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Babies Heads


c.1931 to WW2


1960-80's


2000-2010


John Winton in his book Carrier Glorious at p.33. Acknowledge the special variety of Steak & Kidney pudding.

In General Use - The popular name for a very special type of Steak and kidney pudding in a soft suet pastry - were either in individual tins or in standard 15oz tin and halved - Never found a civilian S & K pudding to equal the pusser's variety. A1++++

An ex submariner describes this - ' (the smooth pastry rises like a shiny baby's head)'


http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/navysong/Scran.htm

Navy Scran.

Not linked (rude words)

Replied: 15th Jun 2013 at 21:58

Posted by: onlyme (488)

Never heard um caud babby's yeds. Funny, though...

Replied: 16th Jun 2013 at 14:14

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Bump in case ©art© may be interested.

Quoted @ 14th Jun 2013 at 22:13 ^^^^^^^

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 01:11

Posted by: PeterP (11308)

Been to the Isle of Wight (back today) found a cafe with steak & kidney pudding on the menu

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 21:40

Posted by: aitch (5487) 

Aitch, was it a reference to steak pudding, or faggots, as suggested by ©art©?
It was steak pudding Dustaf, and bloody good they were to, faggots were men walking about with very limp wrists and guilty looks on their faces.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 23:43

Posted by: jouell (4705)

I only remember Slavvery ducks and Faggots, I left England in 1975...

Replied: 23rd Jun 2013 at 00:08

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Cheers, Aitch.

More history to it than I thought.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2013 at 17:01

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Still don't believe it,some folk...Faggots wrapped in a caul.

Just like some new born babies heads are covered in a "Caul" at birth (and I've delivered a few)

Replied: 24th Jun 2013 at 00:47

Posted by: goose (inactive)

It's something i've never done......gone into a chippy and asked for "babies yed" chips, peas and gravy.

Replied: 24th Jun 2013 at 12:20

 

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