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''A Couple of Swells''
''A Couple of Swells''
Photo: Bernard Seeling
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Item #: 13831
This is a very early photo of my grandfather Charlie ''Bronco'' Seeling[left] and his fellow All Black Bill ''Massa'' Johnston,taken in Newton Abbott,Devon, before the first match of the 1905 ''Originals''tour of the British Isles.It was the tour that put the ''Black'' in New Zealand sport.''Bronco'' later signed for Wigan RLFC in 1910 and had a very successful career with them.He also served in WW1 and was ''mine host'' at the old Roebuck Hotel in Standishgate[now McDonalds!]

Comment by: Mick on 5th March 2010 at 23:52

Great photo Bernard maybe it should be in the Rugby League museum in Huddersfield.

Comment by: Benjamin on 6th March 2010 at 20:10

You may be interested to know that a few years ago I visited Hamilton's Rugby Museum in New Zealand and amongst their very fine collection of New Zealand memorabilia were quite a number of photos that included your grandfather, one of the game's greatest players.

Comment by: Keith on 6th March 2010 at 20:13

A few years ago I saw on TV a New Zealand film about their rugby history. One shot showed the New Zealand team walking onto the pitch to play a game against a London club, perhaps Richmond and clearly identifiable was Charlie Seeling, the date was 1905!

Comment by: Hastings on 6th March 2010 at 20:19

A report in the Wigan Observer of around 1910 said "Seeling is a Colonial working man of a stamp, we regret to say, not too frequently met with at home. Ability and modesty go hand in hand with him. He is looked upon as one of Nature's gentlemen"

Comment by: Bernard Seeling on 8th March 2010 at 11:35

Thanks for your positive comments guys.Our family are really proud of ''Bronco''.I spent 11 years living in NZ and the old guy ''came to my party'' on several occasions as you might imagine.My wife and 2 brothers[they came over specially]attended his inauguration into the NZ Sports Hall of Fame and my wife and I attended his induction into ths NZ Legends Of League[and he didnt even play League in NZ which speaks volumes about his reputation over there]He was indeed a superb athlete and a gentleman with it.

Comment by: Benjamin on 10th March 2010 at 09:25

Hi Bernard, a correction. The New Zealand Rugby Museum I visited was at Palmerston, it was Hamilton where I visited Brian Nordgren another New Zealand Wigan star 30 years on from your grandfather.

Comment by: Hastings on 10th March 2010 at 11:57

Just for the record, in his Wigan career Charlie played 202 games for Wigan and scored 80 tries which is a phenomenal achievement for a front row forward. His son, also Charlie, who played for Wigan from 1933 to 1936, represented the Wigan club on 70 occasions and scored 10 tries and kicked 10 goals.

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