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Photo: RON HUNT
Item #: 35828
Possibly springfeild? Certainly not Newtown.
Definitely not the one on Wellington St./ John St.
There were 2 other Prince of Wales I'm aware of -
Woodhouse Lane and Victoria St. Newtown . I wonder if it could be either of these before a rebuild?
Many think there was another on Greenough St , but that was The Princess of Wales . I'll do some digging later to see if I can come up with anything.
I've just had a thought, if Ron obtained this photograph from the same collection as the previous one on the site -St Cuthbert's Walking Day . It would lead to the one on Victoria St. it's nick name - The Jaw Bone , I don't know why.
Ron, I can't see any records that show a Mary Willoughby running one of the pubs in Wigan Borough around 1905. Wilsons had several pubs called Prince of Wales in Manchester and surrounding areas. Perhaps it was one of those?
There were also pubs of the same name on Victoria Street and Woodhouse Lane, but the photo is neither of them, there is also a photo of the interior of a Prince of Wales pub that was at the top of Belle Green Lane, though no clues in the photo as to the brewery: https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=6&id=5454&gallery=Knight+family&offset=0
On the Wilson's brewery history, and list of pubs, there strangely isn't any listing for Prince of Wales, Wigan, though I'm sure someone will know where it was, even if the name was changed at some time:
https://breweryhistory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Wilsons_Brewery_Ltd
A photo of the one in Scholes off the Album by Tom Walsh: https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=34561&gallery=PUBS&page=7
Is this definitely in Wigan?
The licencees name over the front door appears to be Mary Willoughby or something similar?
That should give us something to go off.
I seem to remember there was a prince of Wales in market st Hindley.
Not the one on Belle Green Lane either, as according to Wigan & Leigh archives, Licensed Premises it was a Burtonwood Brewery pub from 1899 until it was demolished, also no Mary Willoughby as landlady.
also, Prince of Wales Market Street Hindley, no details of brewery and only one date of 1927 for landlord/lady J. Crook and S. A. Crook.
This photo appears in the book:
'A History of Wilsons Brewery 1834-1984' by Neil Richardson
The image in the book shows more of the photo including a large gas lamp above the door.
I got the image from an old WIGAN calendar. By the comments it would appear it isn't Wigan at all?
Name Mary A Willoughby
Age 50
Estimated Birth Year abt 1851
Relation to Head Head
Gender Female
Birth Place Derbyshire, England
Civil parish South Manchester
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Ecclesiastical parish St John the Baptist
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration District Chorlton
Sub-registration district Chorlton upon Medlock Mary A Willoughby 50 Head
Isabella Robinson 33 Servant
The 1901 cencers doesn't say the name of the pub I'm afraid but it appears to be on Coupland Street
I haven't got the facility ,but I wonder if someone with access to Census Records could look. It may be able to confirm or debunk .
THANKS TO WINNIE'S INFORMATION I THINK I'VE FOUND THE PUB. IT WAS IN CHORLTON MANCHESTER. SEE INFO BELOW.
Friday, 9 November 2012
Prince of Wales, Moss Lane West
Former location of Prince of Wales, Moss Lane West, Moss Side.
The Prince of Wales was a huge Wilsons house on the corner of Upper Moss Lane and Moss Lane West, While Moss Lane West survived the Moss Side regeneration of the 1970s, Upper Moss Lane only has a short span remaining to the north in Hulme; The Prince of Wales stood next to the Williams & Glyn's bank, and used to also mark the last stop on the Manchester Corporation Tram route from town, until the 1920s when they were carried on until Whalley Range.
wrong corner for the jawbone on victoria st newton.does not look like a huge pub on the picture