Wigan Album

John, where in Scholes was The Horse and Jockey .

Thanks for posting - great to see these images, memories from my childhood.

My great grandparents are Daniel Culshaw and Fanny Birch who married in 1885 and kept the Horse and Jockey pub in the late 1800's. The address is 54 Scholes.
Next door was a milliners shop named Culshaws which they also owned and their children went on to make the clothes sold there.
These photographs were taken at that time showing the family in front of both premises which eventually was sold or demolished.

The shop didn,t become McCurdy,s did it

I have no idea who took over the premises once the shop closed or even when it closed. Perhaps there is a mention in the business records in Wigan.

The pub sloped one way and the shop next door sloped the opposite way??

My father had a shop in Scholes NO 72. Millers Motor cycles bought it and they had No 70( Corner of Lower Morris St),72,and 74. So according to that ,The Horse and Jockey must have been farther down near Scholes Crossing???

On the map "PUBS of SCHOLES" This pub is no 33 and is next door more or less to the Bluebell ( No 33) at Scholes crossing.

It appears that the two premises were not next door to each other. I have been wrong all these years. Very interesting.

If I remember correctly, Livesey's tobacconist was the shop next to The Bluebell, then Lennard's shoeshop, then an entry that led to the back of the shops

I have often wondered what the outline of the shield design on the top right was.

I have been told that the pub was number 54 and the shop number 51

John. In my previous comment, is the entry that I mentioned, the one to the bottom left of the photograph?

Yes I believe this entry led to Horse and Jockey Yard directly behind the pub.

John. I do know that in the 1950s, living accommodation extended across this entry, my wife's aunt lived there. It does seem to be the same location.

go on here and enter the co-ordinates 358705 and 405675
then pick a year from the list on the right.

John, If you look in Album, Places, Scholes, page 6, 2nd photo, what was the "Horse & Jockey" can be seen three premises up from the "Bluebell". Even the 3rd upstairs window was still bricked up but is now a shop.
Keep them coming John/others.

Thanks Jack no doubt about it they are the same building about 80 years on. Unfortunately these are the only 2 photos in the family.

I've always wondered what that pub looked like; my great great grandfather, Thomas Culshaw, was living there in the 1891 census with his wife Ellen and daughter Lydia. My Dad told me that someone hung a banner referring to the battle of the Boyne from the upstairs window during a Catholic procession - it nearly caused a riot. Great photograph, thanks.

The dates indicate that Thomas and Daniel may be brothers.

My great great great grandfathers brother Thomas Culshaw (wife Eileen Fairhurst)was publican at Horse and Jockey Scholes in 1881 aged 58.
His children were:
William, Richard, Lydia, Ellen, Thomas, James, John, Alice and Frederick.