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Culshaws - milliners shop
Culshaws - milliners shop
Photo: John Davies
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Item #: 23670
My great grandparents are Daniel Culshaw and Fanny Birch who married in 1885 and kept the Horse and Jockey pub in the late 1800's.
Next door was a milliners shop named Culshaws which they also owned and their children(my 3 aunts) went on to make the clothes sold there.

Comment by: Dave C on 9th July 2013 at 08:04

Where was it John ?

Comment by: AB on 9th July 2013 at 10:12

The photos of this shop and the Horse and Jockey are on opposite sides of Scholes according to the Slope of the pavement Could this photo be "Back to Front"?

Comment by: RON HUNT (ADMINISTRATOR) on 9th July 2013 at 11:30

Hi John any chance you can send me larger scans of the two photographs? Thanks
ron@wiganworld.co.uk

Comment by: John Davies on 9th July 2013 at 13:34

The Horse and Jockey was number 54 and was next door to the shop.Directly behind the shop and pub was Horse and Jockey yard. The coordinates are shown in the thread under 'places' posted a couple of days ago. I can perhaps send the pictures by email as I am unsure how to do it on the WW website.

Comment by: Jimmy on 9th July 2013 at 14:06

AB, it is the right way round, if it was back to front, the writing would also be back to front.
The reason it appears to be sloping the wrong way is that it has been photo copied on a slant, look at the blue border at the bottom that has cut half of the pavement off.

Comment by: A B on 9th July 2013 at 17:22

Jimmy, it must be the right way as you say BUT the height variation between the pavement and the window bottom suggests that this shop was on the right going up Scholes, whilst the Horse and Jockey was on the left.

Comment by: cullie on 9th July 2013 at 18:43

i wonder if they are related to me because my nan and grandad came from scholes (oxford st) and my dad was born there

Comment by: Jimmy on 9th July 2013 at 19:04

Yes AB, this is on the opposite side of the road from the pub.

Comment by: Dave C on 9th July 2013 at 22:38

What I was trying to resolve was where exactly in Scholes were these two buildings in relation to what's there now. The old street scape and house numbers have long since gone. Is there a reference point for either photo ?

Comment by: John Davies on 9th July 2013 at 23:42

Dodger put the coordinates for the pub on a thread in places named Horse and Jockey. I have been told that the pub was number 54 and the shop number 51

Comment by: Jimmy on 10th July 2013 at 00:08

Dave C, the Horse and Jockey was just beyond the end of the Salvation Army church going up Scholes, I don't know where the shop was.

Comment by: AB on 10th July 2013 at 10:29

From the No 51 the shop must have between the crossing and Actons Court.In my Scholes days of the 40,s in that section was ,Moy-Toy,s Chinese laundry, Fosters Barbers ,Boltons, Herbalists and the Fleece and houses, there was 3 shops between Actons Court and Union St but their numbers would be in the 70,s

Comment by: Betty on 10th July 2013 at 10:46

Look at scholes,places.Page one,second row down,second photo from the left.Centre of the photo the shop looks the same as this shop.With top window sticking out abit.

Comment by: RON HUNT on 10th July 2013 at 11:01

Betty you are spot on. The shop near the lamp post it is the same, you can tell by the double doors and the split window.

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