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Very untidy place.

These pics are getting closer to your house Irene. Maybe just maybe a picture will appear that will show your house. if you look at this pic in its original size you can make out the broken wall that fell onto Geoff Balls leg and broke it. (it was outside Dr Hydes sugery first house on the right with the bay windows) also I remember the little toffee shop on the opposite corner, what were it called Irene?

Totally stumped. I live in Higher Ince, have walked down Ince Green Lane a few times.... but I recognise nothing. I know a lot of the terraces have gone now... but I simply don't know where abouts on Ince Green Lane this is. It has gotta be near St. Williams, but only because I know The Lovely Irene came from that area.

Still a brilliant piccie however!

Oh wait.... is this near the Black Diamond? Or the Ince Hall Hotel as it would have been then?

the wall is the one around St Williams church presbytery and the photo would have been taken from near the longneck, or Anderton Arms as you probably know it

The street to the right by the double bay windowed dwelling is George Street

If you look on Google street view, all the houses on the right have gone, replaced by the green roadside railings that border St.Williams School

I lived at 63 Ince Green Lane next to Dr Hydes & Dr Sherry with my wife & father in law Bill Marsh from1967 to 1978 the van was A Monks Warrington the corner shop at the time was Phyllis's

As born and bred Lower Incer's me and her indoors was totally stumped at this photo, since the thread has unravelled and St Williams Church has been mentioned you can clearly make it out straight away, the church wall is a dead giveaway - brill shot, thanks for getting the cogs going!

Cliff do you remember Ken Parkinson and Jackie Smith who lived in that row too?

The very last building on the extreme left of this photo was Annie Brittens shop

yhe little toffee shop on the corner was called connies i think, i remember annie brittons, every sunday after tea i took a brown paper carrier bag the ones with string for handles and got 1 bottle of macky and a packet of bensons plain crisps for mum, a bottle of tizer and crisps for me, no proof of age then, i must have been all of ten years old, hello dennis miller remember kathleen molloy

I can only remember Jacky Smith Ken brady's mother & the johnsons

I was out with Jacky Smith last Friday night at the Houghton Weavers show in Southport

jackie is still pottering about around Ince, he never moved far

Thanks aitch... I have it now. I have only been in Ince since 1990, and I had very little reason to go that way up until then. Although, I did get engaged to my first wife in the Anderton Arms

Cliff was your wife,s name Irene Marsh i remember her when i lived in Ince lovely girl last time i met her was at Jacqueline Dumican nee Orrell,s funeral the only time we seem to bump into old friends unfortunatley.

Irene is my sister in law married name is Prescott now lives in Abram as myself

The photo was taken opposite the priest'house showing the wall that Irene will remember but as I said her House had gone by then (but only just)

Used to pass that spot on my way to school. Remember those houses well. I believe that one of the houses in a row directly behind the wall burned down. A young lad who lived there playing with matches!

THANKYOU, THANKYOU, SOOOOOO MUCH, B, McDonough!! We went on holiday on May 29th and have just got back......I bet you wondered why I hadn't commented. I was so moved to see where our house stood and the corner shop and the Doctor's,and am not ashamed to say I cried. Although our house isn't there, this picture is my childhood..... that road was my way home. Thankyou a thousand times.

You little tinker, Dennis Miller.....the lovely Irene indeed!(On second thoughts, you may be right, though!). It was opposite the Long Neck, Dennis. If you look behind the wall now there are trees, the area where our house stood now being incorporated into St. Williams school grounds. There is a tree with a seat around it.....that is where our house stood. This is the place that featured at the end of my Past Forward article, "The Girl", which I know you've read. Kath and Cliff, I knew the shop as Connie's and later Phyllis's. Phyllis came from Abram, where I live now, and we imagined it to be miles away, no-one having cars in those days! Gerry, our Colin used to mate with Jackie Smith. Will you remember Colin to Jackie when you see him.Thanks again, B.McDonough, so very much. Irene.

I remember the name of the little lad who set fire to the house; Paul Holland. He had a lucky escape by all accounts.

by the LOVELY Irene...
<<You little tinker, Dennis Miller.....the lovely Irene indeed!>>

What.... am I wrong?

By the LOVELY Irene.. again...
<<(On second thoughts, you may be right, though!)>>

See! I was right!

So, if I have this right, your houses kinda followed the back wall of the presbytery on this map...

http://www.ecadfael.fu8.com/old_os_maps/wigan_1929_06.jpg

Copy and paste again Irene, but just south of George Street? Are those the ones?

Most of Incers were born within this map Dennis (apart from the top of Belle Green Lane, althought it does show Smiths dairy when it was a Brewery

Dennis, thanks for the map. If you look under the word GREEN, in Ince Green Lane, you will see the word "Presby". Under that word, you will see a snall row of houses going off at a tangent off Ince Green Lane proper...that was our row. If you stand with your back to the Long Neck next time you are around there, you will see the Presbytery wall right across from you; the houses stood behind it. If anyone knows who B.McDONOUGH is, would you please pass on my thanks for this photo. I only saw it when we came back from holiday and would hate the person to think I didn't appreciate it...I am thrilled with it.

would it be B Mcdonough who lived on the row were the photo
was taken ? it would have been in the early 70s when that house burned down i remember comming home from school an seeing it. the photo would have been taken from near ednas shop lovley lady.

Don't know, Lorraine. We moved in 1971 when the houses behind the wall were pulled down...never thought I'd see the corner shop again. Wonderful memories! Maybe I knew B. McDonough, but can't bring he/she to mind. I was only 18 when we moved but my childhood years were spent in the little house behind the wall.

hi irene, your marys sister inlaw
i think it could be brian who put the photo on.
they lived 4th house from longneck going towards the papershop. he was an inspector on the busies,hope im on the right person but i cant think of anyone else.

yes my dad was a bus inspector...and we lived at 90 ince green lane........used to walk to ince bar everyday to go to school in hindley....right at the left of the picture was annie brethertons out door licence...just about see it in the pictures ...... and the dentists to the left....out of view in the picture......used to watch the beer being delivered to the long neck .....down the big celler greenalls.......happy days.

Glad you like it Irene I remember it well ran round your houses many times! the grimshaw girls could see into their house when in school (the prefab or new school I knew it as!)

I remember a sleep over many a time just where the van is parked,above right.

hi lorraine yes i am irene's sister in law but lorraine who ???

Memories memories i grew up living on this little row of terrace house's. the shaw's were at 75 and the griffiths's at 85 bessie mates in them days we were, funny how we became in laws!!!I was always snapping photo's when i was younger. but never seem to get our side of the steet,Many thanks for the photo I remember hyde's surgery,the Marshe's, phyllis's,any one remember joe hart on the corner bookies runner as we called himh is house is still standin in the pic. So nice to look back ta much

My "Molyneux" ancestors lived @ 159 Ince Green Lane. Thomas Molyneux I beleve. Anyone know of that family please contact me via email with subject Molyneux. Thank you

The little shop on the corner was owned by my Aunty Doris (mum's sister) in the late sixty's early seventy's. The street along side was George Street where my mum's youngest sister Brenda lived.

I remember going to Dr Hyde's by the side door to the reception(bob hole)or if the doctors was closed you could see Dr Hyde at the bar in the Long Neck (Anderton Arms), does anyone else remember that? He lived for the people of Ince

hi irene do you remember the wall at the front of doctor hydesthe large white bay windowed house just down from the van picturedi always remember the small side wall being at forty five degrees and one night i was coming home from the bug cinemaand as i passed doctor hydes an old drunk burst out singing he had fell over the still standing stone wall