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 Photo-a-Day      (Wednesday, 31st July, 2013) Views: 3,889 
Sunset
 Sunset   by Alan Banks  (Panasonic DMC-TZ3)
Sun setting over Hic Bibi.

Comment by Ellen on 31st July 2013 at 00:07
I love this picture! But....I'm woefully ignorant; what is Hic Bibi??


Comment by Ken R on 31st July 2013 at 00:09
Unusual shot but where the heck is Hic Bibi?

Alan porter, give me a call at kenroo@rogers.com


Comment by Ellen on 31st July 2013 at 00:09
Oh, and where??


Comment by Derek Platt on 31st July 2013 at 00:26
I've been away from Wigan too long. What the heck is hic bibi. Bibi is an east indian grandma where I live in Canada. I'll await your explanation.


Comment by Lizzie down under on 31st July 2013 at 00:58
Beautiful Alan.....don't know where that place is but I am sure someone will tell me......one for the album....thank you.....cheers!!


Comment by k on 31st July 2013 at 07:21
that is a stunning photo. I love sunsets and this is beautiful against the tree.


Comment by john on 31st July 2013 at 07:36
Hic Bibi is a stream that flows between Coppull & Standish not far from where you lived Lizzie


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 31st July 2013 at 07:39
I didn`t know where it is either but used Google to find out.
When was this photo taken, Alan?


Comment by Liz on 31st July 2013 at 08:17
Beautiful photo, Alan.
Hic Bibi - in latin means Here I Drink.


Comment by Olive on 31st July 2013 at 08:40
Hic Bibi means here I drink in Latin. It is supposed to have this name because Oliver Cromwell drank from this well.


Comment by Ron D on 31st July 2013 at 08:45
You have got that just about right.Nice one.


Comment by RON HUNT on 31st July 2013 at 08:52
There was a pit there called the HIC BIBBY PIT also a brick works. I went there a couple of years ago searching to see if I could find a brick with the HIC BIBBY name on, but after a couple of hours searching I gave up.


Comment by Maureen on 31st July 2013 at 09:26
That's gorgeous Alan..the sky is beautiful.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 31st July 2013 at 09:59
RON HUNT; Mick Byrne took a photo of 4 Hic - Bibby bricks in the gable end of a house and posted it in Forum on 1st April 2012. See :-
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=94183&sid=178f95c1a5eae360527550a7d1d7ca27


Comment by Mick on 31st July 2013 at 10:02
This is Hic Bibi

http://youtu.be/-jll6HWjFO0


Comment by Olive on 31st July 2013 at 10:11
Sorry
That should have been ; here I drank!


Comment by Harry C. on 31st July 2013 at 11:40
I've never heard of that Alan, but I think that's a cracking picture. H


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 31st July 2013 at 14:39
Mick, that`s amazing! You couldn`t have read my comment at 09:59, could you?


Comment by Mike (Calgary) on 31st July 2013 at 14:40
That's a fabulous photo.


Comment by Mick on 31st July 2013 at 16:06
Mick, that`s amazing! You couldn`t have read my comment at 09:59, could you?

No I didnt read your comments Ernest and yes I am amazing


Comment by david on 31st July 2013 at 16:24
Nice picture - proving again that 'the most important part of the camera is the person behind it'


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 31st July 2013 at 18:11
Mick, I travel along Coppull Moor Lane to go to Chorley Golf Club and unbeknown to me, until today, using Google Earth, I go past Hic Bibi Lane - that`s amazing too!


Comment by alan lad on 31st July 2013 at 19:18
spending aday at Hic bibi well in the 5os was our treat jam butties bottle of ginger beer or nettle pop catchin chop yeds int stream beltin it was then make what seemed along way back to James Square,chop yeds real name i think millers thumb mit be wrong though,


Comment by Jean F (Wales) on 31st July 2013 at 20:07
SCARY SCARY !
(great picture though )


Comment by Lizzie down under on 31st July 2013 at 20:46
Yes you are amazing Mick....but that is another story...couldn't resist that one.....
John do you know how close...... Cheers!!!


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 31st July 2013 at 21:50
Liz, type `hic bibi wigan uk` on Google Earth and have a look.
If you went past Lil`s cafe years ago, the first lane on the right is Coppull Moor Lane. Hic Bibi Lane isn`t very far down on the right.
Incidentally, Google Earth shows the Waggon and Horses pub (at the end of Coppull Moor Lane) which was demolished and is now a housing estate from 2010.


Comment by Neil Rigby on 31st July 2013 at 22:07
Ernest, regarding your comment at 09:59, there is an interesting optical illusion with bricks. Take the photo at: http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=94183&sid=178f95c1a5eae360527550a7d1d7ca27 and on your computer rotate the photo by 180 degrees. The bricks now look inset to the wall and the brick frogs appear outward as does the lettering.
-----
Some archaeological info of the general area in the photo at:
http://www.chorleyhistorysociety.co.uk/pdfs/CHAS_Coppull_Moor_120116.pdf

e.g.
2 Archaeological background
The survey area lies within a field along the route of the main Roman road between Wigan
and Walton-le-Dale (Margary road number 70c). The road survives as a trackway to the north
of the survey area and as a laneway, known as Hic-Bibi Lane, to the south (see Fig. 2). The
unusual term ‘Hic Bibi’, meaning ‘Here I Drank’ in latin, is thought to relate to the site of Hic
Bibi Well, located approximately 700m to the south of the survey area.


Comment by Kathleen Greig on 1st August 2013 at 03:14
This photo is beautiful if not a little spooky,but that's my brother Allan's photo,and he loved nothing better than scarring me as a child.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 1st August 2013 at 07:46
Neil, how did you come to find this optical illusion?
I`d come across the archaeological website but didn`t read it.
Have you seen Hic Bibi Local Reserve on :-
http://chorley.gov.uk/Documents/Parks%20and%20nature/hicbibi_info_board%20FINAL%20v1.pdf
The site history states :-
The name Hic Bibi is derived from Latin and means, “here drink I”. Nearby Hic Bibi Lane is an ancient Roman Road, it is believed that the name Hic Bibi was given to the well along this track by Oliver Cromwell. Seeing that the land
surrounding the well was Monastic land it is most likely that the Latin name was given by the monks during the seventeenth century.


Comment by Helen on 1st August 2013 at 08:24
I go along with all the comments, great photo.

Seeing the name Neil Rigby & I appreciate that there are probably many people with the surname Rigby But does anyone remember a Rigby family that lived at Holland Moor in the late 40/50's ? They were a family with many children & lived in an old stone farmhouse along Ormskirk Rd. There was a large orchard behind the house & in spring it was a mass of daffodils which you could buy as bunches or go & pick your own. I also remember they had a large harmonium in the 'parlour ' Someone out there must be one of those children.


Comment by Roy on 1st August 2013 at 09:46
I know how close Lizzie. The nearest the brook got you your house was where it passed under Preston Rd beneath pongy bridge which is near where Lils Cafe used to be. At that point it was known as Stars Brook which flowed into Hic Bibi Brook, it is the border between Wigan and Chorley. The unusual thing about these brooks is that they flow 'away' from the sea. I know YOU cant Lizzie, but if anyone stands at Lloyds TSB bank in Standish there is an engraved stone sign pointing the way to Hic Bibi down Bradley Lane.


Comment by Lizzie down under on 1st August 2013 at 09:50
Thanks Ernest had a look on imaps and it isn't far from Preston road and the junction of Preston Rd and Pepper Lane.....amazing....cheers!!!


Comment by Roy on 1st August 2013 at 10:15
Lizzie, i should have said it 'IS' known as Stars Brook which 'FLOWS' into Hic Bibi......!!It starts life on Harrock Hill which you would have been able to see from the rear of your house and flows through the fields to where i said, pongy bridge. In the 40s and 50s when i used to go to Hic Bibi as a lad there was a pipe that ran underground emptying into the brook at Hic Bibi, i have had many a drink from it, the pipe is no longer there though, I still live only a 5 minute walk from it now and walk past it regularly.


Comment by Lizzie down under on 1st August 2013 at 13:04
The brook at the bottom of our block was always crystal clear that is why my house is called Brook House...we used to grow cress in it for our summer salads....I guess you could call them "salad days" Thank you Roy.....cheers!!!


Comment by Neil Rigby on 1st August 2013 at 19:21
Ernest, I first came across the optical illusion when viewing Rev David's photo and comment see:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=22858&gallery=Bricks&offset=0


Comment by Ian Cunliffe on 2nd August 2013 at 10:24
Great Shot. I now live in Auckland, New Zealand but regularly visit Wigan World to look at places I recognise. Keep up the good work. Ian. (Devonport, Auckland)


Comment by alan banks on 3rd August 2013 at 20:10
i Ernest . i took the photo just a couple of weeks ago near talbot house farm worthington.


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