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 Photo-a-Day      (Sunday, 16th September, 2012) Views: 3,770 
Market Place
 Market Place   by Dave (Oy)  (Nikon D700 with Nikon 24-70mm F2.8)
Market Place Wigan - 5th September 2012

Comment by Ken R on 16th September 2012 at 00:05
Nice clean shot of the town centre.Not many people around. Where was this from, could it be from the top of the old Midland Bank Building?


Comment by Vic Greenwood on 16th September 2012 at 00:45
Excellent photo Dave, good depth of field shows the most picturesque part of the town.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 04:23
Hello Dave, there`s no question that this photo should be on P-a-D !! Was wondering when we were going to see another of your photo`s.
Just look at all those street bollards - surely they don`t need to be so close together.
There are 103 photo`s of Market Place in Album, Places.
Would you please read my comment, the last one, on your P-a-D on 25th April 2010.


Comment by dave marsh on 16th September 2012 at 08:56
Your photo evokes memories,Oy,I can see the railings around the underground toilets and the Wigan Corporation red buses pulling in where we boarded for our 1 penny fare to the Plantations.I wonder if those toilets were sealed like an Egyptian tomb.


Comment by Spenian on 16th September 2012 at 09:48
Lovely shot Oy, nice and bright and no rain in sight. :-)


Comment by Mick on 16th September 2012 at 10:38
Would make a good Wigan postcard, looks like its taken from one of them street light repair trucks.


Comment by Janice on 16th September 2012 at 10:50
Lovely POV day making for a great shot of the Market Place. I love to see pictures like this - as a beginner in photography, you can learn so much from other peoples photos. One for my POV and DOF folder!


Comment by Janice on 16th September 2012 at 10:57
Re yours and Jeans comments yesterday Ernest. Photography is and should be great fun, whether with a techno camera or mobile phone. I am just a lover of gadgets of all kinds!!. I have often heard people say - 'Oh I only have a camera on my mobile' Despite the fact that I have a DSLR, I would like a phone camera as the DSLRs are not for carrying about all day every day. I must change my mobile!


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 11:22
Photo #14100 on page 4, at end of 3rd row in Album, Places, Market Place, shows the entrance of the underground Gents toilet. Older viewers will remember it well. The entrance to the underground Ladies toilet is just off to the right. Read irene roberts comment.


Comment by Lizzie down under!!! on 16th September 2012 at 11:29
A lovely photo. Don't remember it very well as I am in Aussie land and have been since 1964. Hi to all the Wiganers I knew when I was 14!!! Cheers all


Comment by Dave (Oy) on 16th September 2012 at 12:23
Mick has the viewpoint correct. I booked a street lighting "cherry picker" and took lots of photos from 4 different spots in the town centre. More to come but I won't stick them on all at once. Maybe a few birds in between Hahahahaha...


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 12:49
You are only in your youth, Janice ! What do POV and DOF stand for?


Comment by Neil Rigby on 16th September 2012 at 13:28
Ernest: Bollards can be close together for a variety of reasons, 1) prevents cyclists casually moving on/off road and pavement, 2) prevents cars stopping partially on/off pavements to go to the bank cash machine etc., 3) protects banks/shops from car ram raids. 4) inhibits (but does not prevent) pedestrians (particularly children) from accidentally spilling onto the road by having a clear border. At the same time, crossing the road is not seriously impeded (as a railings would do) and there should be sufficient spacing for pedestrians with buggies and prams to cross the road.


Comment by dirty harry on 16th September 2012 at 14:06
dave marsh im look for the railings round the toilets and the red corporation bus . are you sure they are in this picture? im having trouble finding them.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 14:19
Neil, 1) Cyclists ride on pavements and how I`ve not been knocked down by them is a miracle. 2) How wide is a car? Much wider than pitch of these bollards.3) same point as 2).4) can`t see the pitch of them affecting this.


Comment by Janice on 16th September 2012 at 15:00
I suppose you are right about my being in my youth Ernest - 20 years your junior but still eligible for a free travel pass. I actually love it because 1. I could retire, 2. I get discounts wherever I go - and I love a bargain. Sorry about the abbreviations. POV Point of view. DOF Depth of field.


Comment by Jean F (Wales) on 16th September 2012 at 15:30
C`mon DH .You know what Dave means.I am just about to say the same thing!


Comment by Jean F (Wales) on 16th September 2012 at 15:41
This is the sort of picture we "past" wiganers like.thankyou Dave.There are quite a few changes in that shot from when I was there in the 50`s.
On the leftside is where Lowes was? I waited for my bus there to go home via queensway and if I missed that one i went over to the right of the picture to catch the one via mesnes rd.happy days.


Comment by Neil Rigby on 16th September 2012 at 16:18
The recommended maximum spacing of bollards seems to be 1.8m, however if there are security issues (as there might be near a bank) then the maximum seems to be 1.2m. Depending on the amount of restriction or separation a planner wishes to achieve for safety reasons, the spacing will vary between these values. It is interesting to see in the picture that the two sets of bollards on the right hand side of the road have been joined to make barriers but not continuous. Presumably the planners considered this to be a dangerous place for the public to cross the road, but less so further away from the crown of the bend. The place where the woman is crossing the road is obviously a popular place to cross and is a clear candidate for a smaller spacing than the maximum. Further down the street, the case for small spacing is less strong.


Comment by Harry C. on 16th September 2012 at 17:09
Just got in Dave and seen your comment on the cherry picker, makes for a good view point, do you have contacts or is it a hire job. Like the pic too.


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 17:24
DH, read my comment at11:22


Comment by Dave (Oy) on 16th September 2012 at 19:53
Harry C - I took the photos "professionally" for both Philips Lighting (I'll be repeating the same scenes at night later in the year) and wigan Council.


Comment by Dave (Oy) on 16th September 2012 at 19:56
Ernest - read and commented Re; April 25 20120


Comment by bruce mills on 16th September 2012 at 21:55
im not a wiganer and not even english ( scottish ) but a great photo and i like the comments by dave marsh ( i remember the pugs and toby )


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 22:49
Jean, re your comment at 15:41, have you looked at photo #14100 re my comment at 11:22?
Neil,1.8m is 70.866" which is just under 6ft. To me this could be increased to 7ft 6" without detriment and save considerably on council finance. Have the bollard manufacturers had a say in this spacing I wonder.


Comment by Skeets on 16th September 2012 at 22:57
Lovely picture - I never noticed that big crucifix in the ground in the middle of the open space. Good to see the Political Corrects haven't changed that yet!!


Comment by Ernest Pyke on 16th September 2012 at 23:16
Dave, I`ve put a comment, in reply to yours, on 25th April 2010 P-a-D


Comment by Neil Rigby on 17th September 2012 at 19:42
Skeets, there is a better view of the Cross Mosaic at http://www.wigan.gov.uk/pub/planning/art-trail/pdfs/no6.pdf


Comment by Art on 19th September 2012 at 01:14
I think that you'll find the "Crucifix" is actually a compass bearing, North, South, East & West..;o)


Comment by Gary on 19th September 2012 at 10:33
Modern Wigan...wipes the floor with Wigan of the past. A town fit for the 21st Century!


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