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I see your point Ian, When i was at school there was no calculators, it was all worked out on paper with a nibbed pen or pencil, we were't allowed to use ballpoint pens, the theory being they made you a lazy writer ( or was it lousey) anyrode thats my excuse for being thick, I did't even get a cse, but later gained a spirit level rather than a O level,