General   (General discussion, talk about anything.)

Oh and ...and here they all come, the forum Daddies critics and experts, out of the woodwork hahaha.

I am a busy man so I will keep my comments simple...

Fatlad? No touchy at all mate I am always happy to accept constructive critisiscm. My only proviso is that those making it.
a) Have just a tiny bit of knowledge and understanding of the subject and make their comments in a fair and respectful way.

and
b) Are prepared to accept what I say without wanting to turn it into a full blown argument.

Unfortunately its yet to happen

A typical example of my above statement represented with some accuracy is F@art. A man who spent most his life Digging coal up out of the John pit. The ideal background and qualifications needed to start telling us how to do our job and reason enough for his ever continuing "fruit and nut" based joke. Keep at it old son, I am sure someone has yet to hear it I see your desire to join in the fight and dismiss all that you dont understand lives on as strongly as ever

Gricer?
We dont have roundabouts where there should be lights nor vive versa although changes are sometimes required as a result of improvements or alterations elsewhere. You just think we do on account, and I say this with respect, the fact you have no idea of criteria involved in making the choice. Each have their respective merits and disadvantages and there are many factors involved in the selection such as physical space and site limitations, planning and design requirements. Traffic conditions by which I mean average/peak flow and density rates, approach speeds, proposed future developments in the area, proximity to hazards and other road features, local accident patterns.....and the list goes on....Oh I forgot the most important one, also the one that most people seem to have a problem getting their heads round COST! or more specificaly cost in relation to benefit.

Lights and roundabouts deliver traffic in different ways, and you have to look not just at the junction but the whole system they will become part of. Allowing more or less traffic through a particular junction at a particular time may have no adverse effect at that location, but half a mile away at the next junction it might cause chaos. Lights cause pulses in flow which can be timed and controlled to fit in with pulses from other local sets which can be beneficial to the system as a whole in the way its controlled. Whereas roundabouts deliver traffic in a smoother but less controllable way making them more suitable for areas that are not subject to strict control or management....we dont just flip a coin!

Take Rons case, we could rephase beech Hill lights in his favour but it may well have a knock on effect elsewhere, say Challenge way or Springfield and lead to more congestion at those areas.

Now thats my answer, which you asked for and I sincerely hope you found it interesting and enlightening. Now we can go one of two ways....you can say, "thanks for the time and effort in giving it" or "your wrong, your a liar, you dont know what you are talking about, bunch of muppets" blahblahblah or words to that effect.....

so whats it gonna be? I am awaiting your reply with interest.