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Started by: veg grower (inactive)

I thought there should be a Gardening section on the Hobbies Board - I know we still got one running, but who cares?

Do you 'Grow Your Own', have an allotment or enjoy gardening 'Just For Fun'? Any news, views and ideas we'd love to hear, along with any photos.

Spring is just around the corner, what are you plans? What do you have growing in your garden at the moment?



Started: 27th Feb 2013 at 09:36

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

PLanted a couple of ornamental cherries Yesterday, 'Amanogawa' and 'Kanzan'.

Also, snipped the tops of a couple of Hebe's and potted them up so I can plant them in a month or so.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 09:55

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I'm not well up on the ornamentals Mac, I know the roots of some can be quite invasive, are they standard ones?

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 10:07

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Yes, they are....If the roots cause problems I will take them out and put some other ornamental in their place.

Biggest problem they have is because they are shallow rooted is they sucker, easy enough to mow over.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 10:17
Last edited by Mac: 27th Feb 2013 at 10:19:23

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Good luck with the graft - as I have mentioned before, it isn't something I have chanced before.

Can you not find room for the Conference, perhaps cordoned against wall or fence? I suppose it depends on where you took the cutting for the graft.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 14:39

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

You can trim it back and tie some branches to a wall or fence, will cover the area and produce produce.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 16:17

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Love a nice hard conference pear I do...Dostaf like a hard p,...Sorry, gardening thread.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 16:30

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Hmmmm....I may take you up on that, TOM.

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 18:20

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

No problem

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 19:57

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

First day of Autumn in Aussie tomorrow.....1st March.......we could still have some hot days.....I don't think the summer sting had finished yet......the rain we had yesterday ended up giving my wild outback a good soaking.....

Replied: 27th Feb 2013 at 20:16
Last edited by lizziedownunder: 20th Jul 2013 at 04:06:06

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - I bet that rain was good for the local wildlife too. Amazing what survives during and after that intense heat.

Replied: 28th Feb 2013 at 06:28

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Something to ease you slowly into the day (and garden)

Theme From A Summer Place

Replied: 28th Feb 2013 at 07:04

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Thank you Veg nice to listen to after tea......nice to hear real violins....

Replied: 28th Feb 2013 at 08:36
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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thats good TOM, will have to call in, I have also heard of onion sets going cheap at Aldi too.

God its cold this morning, I left a pair of jogging pants on the line last night, when I let the dog out they were pure white covered in frost (supposed to be black) LOL.

I'm gonna let it warm up a bit before I do anything today, raked up loads of leaves and other rubbish the other day, so gonna burn that. My son saw an incinerator in a skip a couple of weeks ago so he brought it home for me to burn my rubbish in, it has a lid too.

Birds are going mad in the garden at the moment, must be mating season.



Replied: 2nd Mar 2013 at 09:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Oooh that's fantastic, unfortunately I won't be able to go, I'm working. Would be nice to hear from anyone who does go though. £2 is nothing is it?

Hope they do more stuff like this.

Replied: 4th Mar 2013 at 17:45

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thanks TOM, I still won't be able to go.

Replied: 4th Mar 2013 at 18:43

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Managed to do a couple of hours in the garden yesterday. Hands and arms are covered in scratches after tying in climbing and rambling roses - never noticed at the time.

Not sure my borders at the back will be up to much this year, I asked my son to mow the grass at the back - talk about a bull in a China shop - he goes well over the edges.

Talking of the grass, it has virtually dried up but is very lumpy and bumpy after all the rain, now it has dried up a little it needs some serious attention - which means keeping the dog off it perhaps a couple of weeks.

Had a fire in the incinerator my son robbed off a skip - I won't tell you how he nearly blew himself up applying a little petrol 'just to get it going Mam' - daft bugger.



Replied: 6th Mar 2013 at 09:41

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Did any Wigan Worlders go to the tree-grafting workshop?

I was on MoneySavingExpert site this morning, and someone mentioned that Aldi had seeds going for as low as 10p per packet. Can't be bad.

Replied: 7th Mar 2013 at 14:48

Posted by: custard (6953) 

Today I planted some seeds..

Don't know how they will turn out but they are all set out in greenhouse, I have tomatoes, radish, cucumbers, and spring onions..

Never grew anything from seed before so don't know how they're going to turn out..but fingers crossed..

Oh, and some tubers in big plant pots..

Replied: 7th Mar 2013 at 22:37

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Custard - you'll have to let us know how you get on. I love crunchy radishes and spring onions in a salad.

Your radishes may be ready in 8-10 weeks they will grow quick in your greenhouse.

Replied: 8th Mar 2013 at 08:29

Posted by: custard (6953) 

I will keep you posted Veg on how they're getting on..

Replied: 8th Mar 2013 at 09:05

Posted by: momac (12435) 

All the best custard..you'll enjoy watching them all grow.

Replied: 8th Mar 2013 at 11:47

Posted by: custard (6953) 

Thanks Momac, just been and got some strawberries today..

Replied: 8th Mar 2013 at 14:27

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Get your tins of cream in ready for them custard yummm.

Replied: 8th Mar 2013 at 15:28

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Veggie,I have looked everywhere for the photo of your lost J.M Barrie book..I wanted to have another look at it..we were in Bygone Times this a.m.,and there are that many books..in fact hundreds,I was just looking at every light blue book I could see,so it would be handy just to have another look at it.

Replied: 9th Mar 2013 at 18:21

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Momac - I have a feeling it may have lost it's dust cover - I will post one of each:



I recognise both pics so I am wondering if this was underneath the dust hjacket:



I can't believe it would have been thrown away because of the prints that were inside the book - very vivid.

Replied: 9th Mar 2013 at 22:39
Last edited by veg grower: 9th Mar 2013 at 22:53:11

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ta veggie..I will carry on looking,am on a mission now.

Replied: 9th Mar 2013 at 22:48

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Will you be planting it and getting a lot of small novels in Autumn?

Replied: 10th Mar 2013 at 11:22

Posted by: cindy (5971) 

first flowers in the garden

Replied: 10th Mar 2013 at 11:56

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Lovely..Spring is a comin'.

Replied: 10th Mar 2013 at 12:39

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

momac It didn't feel like it today. It was bloody freezing.

Replied: 10th Mar 2013 at 21:17

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Marie,I know..I'm really fed up with the cold now..it seems to go on and on.

Replied: 10th Mar 2013 at 22:19

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

It would be nice if I could swap a bit of your cold for a bit of our heat.....I am way passed being fed up with our heat....I can't print what I would like to say......the ground is brick hard.....baked......I have to wait until the temperatures come down to do some potting on.......bugger!!!!

Replied: 11th Mar 2013 at 05:48

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Gardeners Delight are usually very reliable, give them a water and stick them in the airing cupboard. That's where I put mine til they start poking through.

Replied: 15th Mar 2013 at 16:09

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

For some free wild flower seeds that the birds will love, perhaps make a nice mini meadow. Free to the first 10,000 folk who sign up:

National gardening Week

Replied: 15th Mar 2013 at 16:11

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

Had a good couple of days in the garden. Pricked out 2 lots of tomato seedlings, tidied up the strawberry patch, planted the onion sets. Always feel guilty throwing away the strawberry runners or surplus seedlings.

Replied: 16th Mar 2013 at 15:24

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Nightchap - I know what you mean about waste, I only sow little and often now. I could cry at what I have wasted over the years. I do always find spaces for the strawberries though - some grow through the lawn at the back lol.

TOM - thanks for the seeds link, I think all the others have gone on mine, as it isn't linking to the request page anymore.

I haven't tried those growbags, but I have had sacks of his before that were good (a few years ago now) I think they were rotted farmyard compost or something - really rich they were.

Replied: 17th Mar 2013 at 17:19

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Tom,you've been brave..it's freezing out there,I've got seeds in trays,but in the back bedroom yet,runner beans..chillis,toms..potatoes chitting,nearly ready for bagging,and different flowers..but anything needing doing outside will have to wait 'til it warms up....I must be soft.

Replied: 21st Mar 2013 at 21:47

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Thank The Lord we are getting a few showers of rain!!!!!!

Replied: 22nd Mar 2013 at 01:09

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Lizzie,do you want some snow as well..what I'd give for some of your warmth..the old saying 'the grass is always greener is true isn't it.

Replied: 22nd Mar 2013 at 19:38

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Yes Momac it is true, but my grass is the colour of my avatar......you have the green grass but not the warmth.....here the heat burns the grass...but I have kikuyu grass and if we get a wet winter it will spread its runners once more and we will have a green lawn out the back.

Replied: 22nd Mar 2013 at 19:52

Posted by: aiflanc (1463)

I planted a goji berry plant last year and it just grew stems and leaves. It in a pot in general compost . Has any one on WW tried these? . The berries are rich in Vit C and are only 1/2 inch long.I understand they will grow well in ordinary soil,but I think it needs a bigger pot. It is in a 10" pot right now. any advice welcome.

Replied: 3rd Apr 2013 at 21:12

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Hello airflanc..there's an awful lot of advice on Google..sorry I can't do links.

Replied: 3rd Apr 2013 at 22:51

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Aiflanc, the general rule is if you grow anything in a pot the stuff it is growing in should be the best potting soil you can get. Compost is good for gardens but in pots it has to be the best....probably to there are a lot of roots in there with nowhere to go....So yes I would repot it when it gets a little warmer.....if it has new growth, you could probably do it now into the next size pot.....also if there are roots coming out of the bottom of the pot then this is another sign thar it needs a bigger pot.....good luck...

Replied: 4th Apr 2013 at 01:15

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Replied: 5th Apr 2013 at 08:51

Posted by: aiflanc (1463)

momac -Thanks for yur post , I did google,after I posted ,and found what I wanted.Int google great?

Lizziedownunder_-thanks for your post too.I am intending planting it in the soil as we get some strong winds, and in a pot it wouldnt be very stable.

Replied: 5th Apr 2013 at 18:54

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

mac I said to momac a few months ago, I don't think I saw one bee last year.

Replied: 5th Apr 2013 at 22:34

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Smart thinking Aiflanc.....no good in a pot with high winds...

Replied: 5th Apr 2013 at 23:42

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

TOM - I got my seeds yesterday, my son got some too as I registered his name as well.

Got just the perfect place for them in the back, a border that gets sun most of the day, I'm gonna mix them with some other bee friendly seeds I managed to get my hands on.

Not got round to commenting on here, had my hands full recently, I have done loads in the back though, planted Shallots - Golden Gourmet, Garlic - standard, Onions - Stutgarter and Red Onions - forget their name.

My fruit bushes and trees are all looking healthy, not sure if I have lost the Apricots this year - early flowers are no good here in the North. Gooseberry bushes I planted last year are a lovely globe shape, and never been pruned. I have one red kind and 3/4 green.

The only thing that is suffering is two raspberries - but I think this is down to my lazy/lacklustre pruning. Will decide their fate later. On the raspberry flip side I have a yellow raspberry that is supposed to fruit in autumn, but basically does as it pleases and has taken over a whole border - even the dog walking all over it doesn't stop it in it's tracks.

Replied: 6th Apr 2013 at 10:35

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Could be - that is the only red onion set I am aware of. I picked the bags up from Wilkinson's this year. I find I get better results from sets than seeds - seeds just invite the onion fly when you thin them.

I am going to sow some Paris Silverskin seeds though for pickling - them and spring onions don't need thinning of course.

...never pickled before - so this year will defo be a learning curve.

Replied: 6th Apr 2013 at 12:50

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Tom - I know what you mean about the red onions, on the subject of chillis and peppers - I have had some germinate long after I thought they had rotted. Just leave them on the window sill.

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 11:18

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

OK, my seed potatoes this year are:

Early - Pentland Javelin

Maincrop: - Maris Piper and Pink Fir Apple

I have never grown Maris Piper or Pink Fir Apple before - I usually go for the white skinned sort.

I would be very interested to hear if anyone had grown these two and have you ever stored them. I know I can google but it is always nice to know the opinions of other growers.

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 11:23

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

I buy the new strain of "Kestrel" potatoes, they are white skinned with Purple eyes....just lovely potatoes to cook with....we will be trying to get some seed ones to grow this winter.....fingers crossed.....I just love purple.......

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 11:37

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

TOM - I'm growing in sacks, as I don't really have the ground to spare for potatoes - although I could at a pinch. Were yours grown in the ground?

Lizzie - I have grown Kestrel before, and they are fantastic, good disease resistance in my opinion and they gave good sized potatoes - you have set me thinking now, I may try a few of those.

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 11:40

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Tom..I grow them in bags..and it's true about the watering,I don't think I water them enough last year..my runners are sprouting in their pots,nothing yet by the way of tomatoes nor the chillies..I can't wait to get everything out in the ground,but will do it when it warms up.

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 13:18

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

T&M may soon have special offer on of what they have left. They had a few good offers last year and some were going for half the price.

You can get Sweetcorn that hasn't been tampered with - there are some heirloom varieties that are organic, I saw a red version the other day. I will post it if I find it.

Replied: 7th Apr 2013 at 20:58

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

I get my sweetcorn out of one of the fields where the farmer grows them. Yum yum.

Replied: 9th Apr 2013 at 13:23

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

have a chew on a raw one as you 'borrow' some.

Replied: 9th Apr 2013 at 15:52

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Yes, VERY nice, and very sweet.

Replied: 9th Apr 2013 at 17:24

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Mac - are they creamy when eaten fresh? As opposed to juicy when they are cooked?

These Pink Fir Apples are slow at sprouting, figured out that the bottom is the thinnest part of the potato with those.

Anyone interested in a packet of free Evening Primrose Seeds click on the following link, I've just sent for mine:

Efamol - Free Seeds

Replied: 15th Apr 2013 at 14:34

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ta veggie,just sent for some.

Replied: 15th Apr 2013 at 15:52

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I have scattered them with my other wild flower seeds TOM.

Replied: 16th Apr 2013 at 12:36

Posted by: mache (inactive)

"the fruit corner"

Replied: 16th Apr 2013 at 14:36

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

I'm not doing too well this year
compare last year

Replied: 16th Apr 2013 at 20:29

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

in the green house there are tomatoes,cucumbers, beetroots,lettuce,marigolds,dalias,peas,some mixed flower disks and onions, yes I have a paraffin heater it does't give off much heat but it keeps the frost away, I got a bigger paraffin heater which heats the greenhouse well, but it uses a gallon every two nights, so thats not cost efficient , how does your plants compare?

Replied: 16th Apr 2013 at 22:19

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

A bit early yet for Tomatoes and Cucumbers in the greenhouse - I haven't had one for the last few years, but when I did I would put the Toms and Cuks in from the end of May onwards. I guess it depends on the overnight temperature of the greenhouse.

You can get thermometers that record the maximum and minimum temperatures reached.

Replied: 16th Apr 2013 at 22:29

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

I have looked at doing similar for next season, the small paraffin heater won't give enough heat and it sooted up the glass, so I made a flu to stop the sooting, but it also takes the heat out,
So I'm thinking of using an immersion heater in a container, then a pump to circlate it round pipes in the green house, this can be controlled with a stat so it wont run away with the leccy, but I won't know how good it is till I try it out. I'll keep you informed on that one

Replied: 17th Apr 2013 at 09:25

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

When I had my allotment, I had a 30ft greenhouse with pipes all the way round, and in the shed at the end I had a big old wood burner - it was ace.

Replied: 17th Apr 2013 at 09:30

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

In't it amazing how a few mild sunny days make a differance, the tomatoe seeds are showing, buds are appearing on the trees and bushes the doves are cooing the blackbirds singing, spring has arrived

Replied: 19th Apr 2013 at 15:19

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Tom..my heart sings when the sun comes out and the temp goes up a notch or two..as you say everything comes to life..lovely.

Replied: 19th Apr 2013 at 15:37

Posted by: billybob (104)

A little bit of advice please, I have had quite a lot of spring flowering bulbs, snowdrops and the like, these have now lost all flowers, do I need to lift these and store them?. If so how best to store and what's the best place, ie shed or little greenhouse type frame.

Thanks in anticipation of response.

Replied: 19th Apr 2013 at 18:46

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Hi Billybob, I always thought that different bulbs were treated individually. I know they used to say let the foliage die down naturally on daffodils so as to feed the bulbs for the following year, and snowdrops were better moved when still in leaf, but the RHS seems to treat them all the same and only offers standard advice - I guess the main point is only move them if you have to.

RHS Bulbs Link


PS - I have looked on the Gardeners World forum and the general advice seems to be to let the foliage die down naturally before you do anything.

Replied: 19th Apr 2013 at 20:34
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Posted by: billybob (104)

Thanks veg for your advice, think ill let them be and plant around them.

Replied: 20th Apr 2013 at 00:15

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



Look what I made with some old pavers, a plant pot base and a little concrete froggy garden ornament....

Replied: 20th Apr 2013 at 03:19

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - and the birds can make use of the water too.

You said you were going to plant your Kestrel potatoes - so do you grow your veggies mainly in the winter then?

Replied: 20th Apr 2013 at 11:30

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

We have to wait for the dry to break.....meaning lots of rain.....all the natives bloom in autumn and winter as it rains more......we only grow spuds, as they seem to be able to look after themselves, so long as they have rain and cool weather....Anyway rain is forecast for tomorrow and most of the week so fingers crossed....

Replied: 20th Apr 2013 at 12:24

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

IT IS RAINING.....POURING DOWN......THANKYOU....GOD....

Replied: 21st Apr 2013 at 01:18
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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - I feel refreshed for your garden just looking at that photo.

Well, it's a beautiful morning I was out with the dog soon after 5am. I have been pruning a few shrubs including a young Rosemary that had become unruly and wouldn't grow as it was told. Lots of info online about Rosemary, I am going to dry some, and use the stems for kebabs when we have a BBQ, I am going to freeze some and stick some in the ground - apparently they take root fairly easily. I have also seen a nice pic of a Christmas wreath that has given me one or two ideas.

Replied: 21st Apr 2013 at 08:03

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Rosemary is a beautiful plant...I have some down the back on the lattice.....the blue flowers are stunning....the native bees love them.....
We ended up getting just over 3/4 of an inch of rain and it is not over yet......so happy....

Replied: 21st Apr 2013 at 11:31

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I asked my son to pick me some compost up last week - so I could get the last of my seeds sown, I usually buy an organic sort, but he came back from B&Q with 4 bags of their own brand 'Verve' Seed Sowing Compost £3.98 for 20L.

After all that moaning I can say that it is really good stuff and aubergines and tomatoes were showing within about 4 days on the window sill.

B&Q have also started their own savers club which I joined today:

B&Q Club

Replied: 21st Apr 2013 at 17:31

Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

i like your garden photos Lizzie. the first looks so hot and dry and the second looks huge!

Replied: 22nd Apr 2013 at 09:16

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 


Thank you Kath........I am a bit of a hit and miss gardener...all our prunings go back on to the garden where they are needed....we don't buy any mulch, as we trim the trees we cut it up and spread it around....no doubt in the future they will sub divide it....the block across the road sold for $240,000 Aussie dollars, they built 4 houses on it and sold them for $240,000 each....the mind boggles.....our block is just over a quarter of an acre....now it has rained hubby will have to get the lawn mower out.....

Replied: 22nd Apr 2013 at 10:58

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Like this idea...

Replied: 24th Apr 2013 at 18:09

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Love those - they remind me of something you would see in a garden of gnomes.

Great ideas of what to do with a broken pot. Anyone could have a bash at those.

...makes me want to go out and smash a pot LOL.

Replied: 24th Apr 2013 at 19:05

Posted by: Mac (inactive)



Violence solves nothing, VG.
(well, not against just anyone)

Replied: 25th Apr 2013 at 13:56

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Am going to givie it a whirl, TOM. May use one of my Bonsai's as a feature in one .

Replied: 25th Apr 2013 at 17:02

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Replied: 25th Apr 2013 at 20:52

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 


I love those broken pots....they would look lovely in a fairy garden....

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 10:55

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



A lovely fairiy garden.....

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 11:10

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Lizzie that's lovely..is it your garden.?

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 13:06

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 


Awww I wish it was Momac....no it is just a pic from google....but I am quite sure that it is made in a big plant pot....and it may be an idea to try if somebody had the patience to set it out....

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 13:15

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I really love these pots that Mac and Lizzie have posted, they have given me all sorts of ideas.

I have two old metal chests that used to belong to my Grandad, they are all rusted up and not fit for anything so I may have a bash with those.

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 13:53

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Veggie,it's got my brain whizzing round as well.

Replied: 26th Apr 2013 at 14:30

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

There are other pics....just put into google......fairy gardens.....and click on images......that is what I did.....

Replied: 27th Apr 2013 at 07:17

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Well I'm cream crackered, I have moved 6 railway sleepers and 10 huge bags of compost for my raised beds.

Is it me or is the blossom on the fruit trees late this year? My Apricot can flower as early as Feb but still has flowers on, the apple and cherry blossom is just about to open, and the pear well......

What have you lot got going on in your garden?

Replied: 2nd May 2013 at 23:12

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

So do you think they are all late then TOM? I am sure everything is a month behind.

Birds are on schedule though.

Replied: 2nd May 2013 at 23:25

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 


The weather is crackers here too.....still in spring/summer mode.....26C today....(3rd)..... Far too warm to be planting spuds....the rain we had was great....but we need more.....if hubby plants spuds now....although the mornings are chilly..... The days are getting too warm......guess what though.....the lawn mower gets a decent run this weekend......

Replied: 3rd May 2013 at 01:42

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 




Our beautiful Adelaide Botanic Garden gates in the city......

Replied: 3rd May 2013 at 04:54
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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Aw Lizzie - that reminds me of how parks used to look in this country.

Well, the last of my spuds are in, and I have just potted up my tomatoes and aubergines.

Anyone growing melons?

I am growing a small variety called Arava. Never had success with Melons before.

Replied: 3rd May 2013 at 11:29

Posted by: momac (12435) 

The cherry tree that I planted last year has blossom on it..so one never knows does oneput runner beans in yesterday..planted garden peas..never done peas before,so we'll see..thought me grape vine in the greenhouse had died but it's on the go now,saw a lovely healthy looking dwarf golden delicious tree in Lidl yesterday £10..god I wish I'd more room..chillies not doing so good yet but probably like me waiting for some good hot sun..send some over Lizzie please.

Replied: 3rd May 2013 at 11:40

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Love the pics TOM.

Momac - I bet those peas don't see a pan, the taste of them straight from the pod is something else.

I'm sowing some sweetcorn, radishes, spring onions and salads today.

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 08:32

Posted by: nutty tart (477) 

Could anyone tell me the best place to get some topsoil and how much i should expect to pay? I've been offered some at £15 per ton.

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 20:52

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Nutty Tart - open a new thread on General - FTAO Nana Jacqui.

TOM - all is forgiven. Cool photo of the butterfly.

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 21:14

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Size is irrelevent ya know.

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 21:27

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

I get a bit squashed to the left with big pics....but it is worth it......great pics Townof....

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 23:41

Posted by: cllr gareth fairhurst (5397)

Any ideas for repairing lawn in shaded area?

Replied: 4th May 2013 at 23:58

Posted by: cllr gareth fairhurst (5397)

TOM I have used the miracle grow seed thingy, where you sprinkle it and then wait for something to happen . Obviously you can tell I am a strong gardener.. When putting new seed down do you cover it up with some soil to protect the seeds or do you leave on top.
I know that which ever way it is you then water it.

Replied: 5th May 2013 at 12:02

Posted by: cllr gareth fairhurst (5397)

TOM I took a picture of one very similar on Tuesday near the pond behind Almond Brook Hotel.

Replied: 5th May 2013 at 13:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Gareth - be sure to keep the kids and the dog off when you have sown the seed.


Bloody hell it hot out there folks! Just transplanted some onions, sown some flower seeds, next is peas and beans.

The blossom on the cherry trees is beautiful, even my son commented on it this morning - and he don't usually show an interest.

I hate weeding it gives me headache.

Forgot, I have just planted a Gooseberry that I have raised from a cutting.

Replied: 6th May 2013 at 15:09
Last edited by veg grower: 6th May 2013 at 15:11:11

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Late?? I have heard of people only starting in June.

I'm aching after yesterday, but will soldier on. I don't like working in sunshine, but rain is forecast for the rest of the week.

BBC Weather

Not heard from Nightchap in a while, what you up to Nightchap?

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 08:20

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I remember finding ants in my patch at the side of the house, and it being heavy clay, they didn't half improve the tilth.

If the nest is in the ground, open it up - the birds will eat them.

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 12:56

Posted by: momac (12435) 

My dad used to throw bits of bread down near the ants,the birds came down saw the ants and had them too.

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 13:45

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Oooh Lizzie,that could have nasty.

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 14:10

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Momac - don't you mean TOM? It was TOM with the jerry can.

Heart hasn't been in it today, still aching from yesterday. I was out at five and I have done 'some' but not nearly 'enough'.

Not even done any work either - a day off. I don't like it when it is too warm, and neither does Thor - he's been crashed out the last two days.

Just finished dead-heading the Primulas and Polyanthus and clearing the dead leaves - I find this very therapeutic and I do them all in one fell swoop. Loads to do but it is still very warm. Gonna have that bonfire I didn't have last week....

"I'm A Fire Starter, Twisted Fire Starter".

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 19:53

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Veggie..yes I do mean TOM..see there's not only you been affected with the sun..to be honest though,I've learned never to do any heavy work in hot weather,always wait 'til it goes cooler late afternoon,it's very tempting I know,just watch animals in hot weather..they crash out,by the way I bet your Thor is getting a big lad ..would love to see a photo of him if you have one..please.don't use a jerry can to get your fire going

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 20:16

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Ha ha Momac.....yes it has been a bit squeezie on here.......you would not believe the temp today is going to be 29C.....it is already 22C in the dark.....where is the nice cool Autumn gone.....First day of winter is 1st June......

Replied: 7th May 2013 at 20:44

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Momac - yes Thor is getting very big. I have photos of him on my computer and I will post one or two soon. He is a right poser for the camera.

Weather gone backwards, I've been cold the last couple of days - I was only saying the other day that it was too hot LOL.

For anyone interested - 38 Degrees are giving away some bee-friendly seeds, I got some from these last year and they were very good.

38 Degrees - Bee Seeds

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 08:36
Last edited by veg grower: 10th May 2013 at 08:44:24

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

Veg grower - Still here, looking in every now and again. Just potted out some tomato plants this week. My mrs likes the crunchy tomatoes that can be bought in most supermarkets imported from the Canaries. A friend of ours brought back from the Canaries some tomato seeds called Canario, so I am looking forward to see what results I get. My experiment with bud cuttings from my grapevine seem to have worked so I will have a few to give away at the end of the year. I've planted all my veg seeds for this season - peas (now just showing ), runner beans, broad beans, onions ( doing well ). There seems to be a lot of blossom on all my fruit trees/bushes this year. Strawberries in the greenhouse are full of flowers. Lets all hope for a better summer than last year.

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 12:02

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

Grapevine bud cutting.

Red currant blossom

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 19:54
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Posted by: nightchap (315) 

I was just trying to - you beat me to it - except the 2nd one is not the one I intended

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 20:01

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

They are not in the same greenhouse - I have 3 greenhouses. One I use for tomatoes, the second I have a grapevine under planted with strawberries. The third is more or less used as a potting shed even though it is a proper greenhouse. What did I do wrong on the links. I have put photo's on before and never had a problem.

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 20:12

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

Just spotted - capitals instead of lower case. Thank you for your help.

Replied: 10th May 2013 at 20:19
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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Nightchap - good to hear from you and more great pics I see.

That grapevine cutting has taken really well - looks really strong.

Do you net your red-currants? I have never netted mine, but I have more blossom than ever this year, and the birds will take the flowers as well as berries.

Not sown all my veg yet - I am hoping to finish that in the next few days. Will be much easier with the raised beds, free draining as opposed to boggy clay soil - last year was a wash-out.

I agree, we must all hope for a better summer - I am seriously considering worshipping the sun LOL.

Replied: 11th May 2013 at 09:16

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

VG, yes I do need to net the redcurrants. I put vertical canes round (with a plastic pop bottle on top ) to form a circle and wrap netting round, then throw another piece of netting over the top. The pop bottles stop the netting getting fouled by the canes, all held in place by spring loaded clothes pegs. Last year I got a good crop despite the poor summer.

Replied: 11th May 2013 at 09:45

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Has anyone ever ordered bedding plants for delivery?

I usually pick mine up from the garden centre, but had a few emails from T&M, The Mail etc and they all look lovely.

Any of you lot ordered bedding plants before, where from and were they any good?

Replied: 14th May 2013 at 15:41

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Yeah, I get occasional money off vouchers from T&M, but then as you say you start looking for things to buy.

It is for baskets and tubs at the front, I say every year I will raise my own, but with no proper greenhouse I haven't really got the space - and the dog just ends up knocking things off the window sills.

I may buy from T&M then - thanks for taking pity on my post, I didn't think I would get any replies there for a minute.

Replied: 15th May 2013 at 17:15

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Just been to hang some washing out and next doors cat is in the garlic box - this is after finding Thor trotting through the bloody onion patch this morning.

There really is no hope.

Replied: 16th May 2013 at 13:17

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Veggie..splash the cat with water if you're quick enough before it shoots off..pity you can't get hold of some wild garlic,it grows anywhere and I doubt if a cat could ruin it..I've been told by a chef that that's all they use in kitchens..I'm pretty sure I've said all this before way back if so...

Replied: 16th May 2013 at 14:46

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I have some netting, but I hadn't got round to putting it up, because my son has burnt most of my canes when we had the bonfire - he said 'I thought you would be buying new ones for this year'.

We had a downpour earlier, and although I had the back door open Thor wouldn't go out to pee, and he has ended up weeing on my bedroom floor. I also have another bite on my leg...

I am having one of those days LOL.

Replied: 16th May 2013 at 19:19

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Your back door was open. Is it Thor?

Replied: 16th May 2013 at 19:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Dirty minds the pair of yous.

TOM - yeah, my son is giving me a lift tomorrow with the stuff I have.

Replied: 16th May 2013 at 22:07

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Got my Evening Primrose seeds through the post today, never grown this before so should be interesting - will flower August til Sept.

Apparently, the yellow flowers open in the evening, and the young shoots can be eaten as a vegetable with a peppery flavour.

I think I need glasses - I was squinting at the writing on the back of the packet.

Replied: 17th May 2013 at 15:48

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Got mine too Veggie..chuffed I am..sowing them tomorrow..you can also get free ones in the packets of Bite-Sized Shredded Wheat are well if you like Shredded Wheat that is.

Replied: 17th May 2013 at 16:00

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I have never bought it TOM, but off the top of my head I googled Wickes.

Wickes Peashale

Replied: 18th May 2013 at 16:01

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Bloody hell £25. I didn't look that far.

Are there no builders yards near you? I think a lot of the smaller firms deliver for free.

Replied: 18th May 2013 at 16:16
Last edited by veg grower: 18th May 2013 at 16:17:18

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Have you tried Nana Jacqui?

Worth a try.

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 00:29

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



We are getting there....just under 2inches of rain so far.....more forecast for the middle of the week....may be the next pic all the gaps will be filled in with green.....

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 06:06

Posted by: momac (12435) 

It'll look lush in no time Lizzie..what I'd give for so much room in my garden...and those trees at the back..I think they're gorgeous.

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 09:40

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - the pics of your garden are becoming steadily greener and brighter, I also wish I had as big a garden as you have.

Better weather this week chaps. BBC Weather

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 10:25
Last edited by veg grower: 19th May 2013 at 10:28:19

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Really those trees are not ours but I could claim them anyway as their owner is my friendly neighbour....

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 10:37

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I notice Jamie Oliver has his own compost/growbags out, and seeds etc. I think this has knocked some of the prices up.

I have just bought some growbags from Wilkinsons £1.75 each or 2 for £3 - thought I would see what they are like. I am beyond skint and beggars can't be choosers LOL.

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 11:54

Posted by: BLACKRODWEAVER (628) 

Heres a little tip I heard on a gardening phone in ref cats pooing in the borders.
Collect and put down dead Holly leaves in the areas affected they don't like walking on them....

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 20:47

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thats a great tip BRW - and welcome to WW.

I know holly leaves are lethal long after they were green, my hands are testament that they never lose their sharpness. So, do you grow your own stuff then BRW?

TOM - I didn't realise growbags were that cheap at B&Q - I tend to look online before I shop and hadn't noticed any offers.

Replied: 19th May 2013 at 23:35

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Last time I looked TOM they weren't offering that. I have some vouchers for B&Q, I may go this week.

Replied: 20th May 2013 at 17:24

Posted by: BLACKRODWEAVER (628) 

Yes veg grower at the moment I have leeks,onions,carrots and lettuce on the go plus loads of flowers seed and cuttings,

Would like your view on the best winter veg to grow??

Replied: 20th May 2013 at 19:58

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Hows the seeds doing momac are they struggling has we need a lot of warm sunny days

Replied: 20th May 2013 at 20:24

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thanks TOM.

BRW - this year (for winter harvesting) I am growing leeks, parsnips, broccoli, sprouts, beetroot and spring cabbage.

I am also thinking of trying some savoy cabbage, which I have never grown before and any other odds and sods I can squeeze in anywhere. Ooh, and I am thinking of starting some Garlic off in the autumn to give me a head start for next year - I usually plant in spring, but the bulbs are never that big.

Another new one for me this year is red cabbage (pigeons ate last years seedlings lol) I love it raw, cooked and pickled.

I am not an expert - I just love growing my own stuff. Please keep us updated with how you are getting on - we are all praying for better weather this year.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 09:05

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ann they're doing okay..at least some are..some were got at with the snails..there's hundreds(or so it seems)in our garden..I'll let you know when they're in flower.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 09:12

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Hope they weren't watching through the window.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 18:07

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Oh well,in that case I'll bring all mine and he can have them as well.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 18:30

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Ahem - you do realise that slugs and snails have a homing instinct???

I found one in the garlic box the other night - I think he was just passing through because he was going straight down the middle of the row - I don't think they like garlic.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 19:03

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I used to throw them over next door, but I don't bother anymore. I love everything - and I want as natural a garden as I can get in the back, and they feed the resident birds.

I have started to let the grass grow a little, and I don't pull up every weed - I figure they are good for the bees and butterflies.

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 22:10

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I've halved my carbon footprint this year by building a huge raised bed on my back lawn - I'll save a fortune in petrol.

I should have money knocked off my Council Tax for that...

Replied: 21st May 2013 at 22:24

Posted by: cindy (5971) 

Daffs now gone, bit of a mixture here now.

Replied: 23rd May 2013 at 11:14

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Ooh thats nice and lush - is that running down the length of a path or driveaway?

Replied: 23rd May 2013 at 12:02

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Will get the last few things potted up today, weeding in the back and sowing some more flower seeds. I might even put up that portable greenhouse I have had (still in the box) for about the last three years.

Just caught Thor chewing the trunk of my Victoria plum - its only a very young one, I can't see any flower buds on it this year either. I may dig it up and stick it elsewhere because it is along the path he treads.

Make the most of it chaps, because it is forecast to rain on Monday LOL.

BBC Weather

Replied: 25th May 2013 at 08:01

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

My Mum used to put out a receptacle of beer for the snails....no kidding.....I can hear you laughing.....but it worked....they got drunk and died ....just got to keep it away from Thor.....May be put it out at night when they are around and he isn't .....Mum also had her own snail hammer....ewwwwwwww....

Replied: 25th May 2013 at 09:51

Posted by: cindy (5971) 

veg grower Its just a border that is against the back wall

Replied: 25th May 2013 at 11:37

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



A foggy start to Sunday morning...



Someone kindly weeded the veggie patch ready for some new spuds now the weather is colder.....

Replied: 26th May 2013 at 05:23

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Wow, big difference between the first and second pic, and look how much greener your garden is now.

Let us know how you get on with your veggies Lizzie - is that your veggie patch on the left hand side?

On about the slug deterrents - I haven't the heart to get tehm drunk, and as you say Thor would probably drink it. I am happy to let them be for now.

Replied: 26th May 2013 at 07:51

Posted by: PeterP (11306)

Just bought an ornamental orange tree(about 2ft tall).We have put it in the corner of our greenhouse to grow. Any tips about watering/repotting please

Replied: 26th May 2013 at 08:27

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Yes veg it is, that is my hubby and he has just weeded the veggie patch, he has a habit of commenting that the weeds are growing again, usually I take pity on him and do it.....but he got around to doing it this time.
The whole of that oblong used to be a chicken run.....my Dad used to breed them.....but we had foxes attacking too often so we planted it up and Keith made himself a veggie patch.....

Replied: 26th May 2013 at 08:35

Posted by: maxine (994) 

Had a lovely morning on the allotment, got a good mixture of things growing this year but it has been a late start .... potatoes, onions, cougettes, aubergine, purple sprouting broccoli, leeks, carrots, peppers, sweetcorn, broad beans , tomatoes, cucumbers and French Beans. Also getting lots of eggs from my chickens. Never use any chemicals on my plants I'm happy to say, just need plenty of sunshine now please

Replied: 28th May 2013 at 00:20

Posted by: momac (12435) 

My word Maxine,you have been busy..you must be very green fingered..and doesn't it all taste good when you've grown it yourself..and yes roll on Mr sunshine.

Replied: 28th May 2013 at 08:41

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

PeterP - Is your orange tree a Calamondin?

There is lots of info about, I just wondered if you knew the variety.


Lizzie - I would love to keep chickens but I'm not allowed where I am - its a shame you had to get rid of them.


Maxine - I envy you with the allotment, I gave mine up when I split with my partner. Hope we get plenty sunshine this year.

Replied: 28th May 2013 at 18:30

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Ooooh, might get one - I have a LIDL at the bottom of the road, and I have just cleared my overdraft LOL.

When looking up ornamental orange trees it says that the fruits can be used in cooking - obviously I would have to check it out fully, but even on their own they are quite decorative.

Cheers TOM.

Replied: 28th May 2013 at 19:27
Last edited by veg grower: 28th May 2013 at 19:48:00

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Bloody hell - you knew I meant LIDL.

Amended ^^^^^^^.

Replied: 28th May 2013 at 19:42

Posted by: Mac (inactive)


Replied: 29th May 2013 at 18:07

Posted by: PeterP (11306)

Veg Grower yes it is a Calamondin(that's whats on the label anyway)

Replied: 29th May 2013 at 18:55

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Peter - I have never grown citrus trees before, however they are a lot more affordable these days, and I hope to buy at least one this year.

I have found a link to the RHS - who I find give standard but reliable advice, the thing I would be concerned about is the night-time temperature in an unheated greenhouse in winter. Anyhow, checkout the link and see what you think - the website also has other info about any possible pests etc.

They sound very easy to manage, and from what I can gather off the net, although it is ornamental the fruits can be used in cooking - however this would need further investigation. Please let us know how you get on with it.

RHS Link

Edit: on scrolling down a little it mentions the minimum night-time temperature needed for the Calamondin.

Replied: 29th May 2013 at 21:22
Last edited by veg grower: 29th May 2013 at 21:25:31

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

TOM - I agree - I wouldn't mind one inside my house - I meant if he intended keeping in the greenhouse through the winter.

Before I saw the RHS link - I found Monty's tips on cheering up a knackered one - if they are flogging them cheap it may be worth the risk...

Monty's Tips

Replied: 29th May 2013 at 21:31

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

£4 sounds like a good price to me - I would still pick them up.

On Monty's link above he said the one he was sorting had cost £35.

Some folk have more money than sense - mind you, the licence fee paid for that.

Replied: 30th May 2013 at 07:52

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Give it some TLC - it will be fine, and soon be as big as Monty's.

Have faith maaaaaaan!

Replied: 30th May 2013 at 11:07

Posted by: PeterP (11306)

cheers veg grower will be overwintered in greenhouse

Replied: 30th May 2013 at 21:15

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

♪♫♪♪♫..The Sun Has Got His Hat On..♫♪♪♫♪

Anyone doing anything good this weekend? That nice weather we have been praying for seems to have materialised.....

Scorchio - well nearly

Replied: 31st May 2013 at 13:11

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Can we have our sun back please.......Rain rain and more rain.....one minute I have a hayfield out the back.....now it is a wet, boggy, flooded but very green.....so pleased....

Replied: 31st May 2013 at 13:23

Posted by: i-spy (15252) 

don't know if its any good but Which are offering a free grow your own veg guide.
To get it call 0800533090 and quote code VEG504F.

Replied: 1st Jun 2013 at 17:34

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Oh Lizzie.. when the sun comes back out,you're gonna have a real lush garden.

Replied: 1st Jun 2013 at 18:21

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I-spy - thanks for posting that.

I ordered this last year from Which? I also received two free packets of tomato seeds too, besides the handy guide - well worth the time it took to make the call.


Lizzie - do you mind if we keep the sunshine for a little longer? Our spring is at least a month behind. When we are parched, we will send it back to you and you can forward the rain to us.

Replied: 1st Jun 2013 at 19:44

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I've never done any foliar feeding, I've always been frightened of getting it wrong.

Has anyone propagated Wild Garlic, and did you do it with the roots or seeds? I have some out the back but would like more.

My brother has just got an allotment and I am very envious.

Not much Pear blossom seems to have taken this year -Cherries, Apples, Gooseberries, Redcurrants and Strawberries I would say are showing better than last year, though I think I will be very lucky to see any Apricots.

My Climbing Roses are looking good - I think this may be down to the late pruning, no noticeable infestations of greenfly.

Replied: 2nd Jun 2013 at 16:54
Last edited by veg grower: 2nd Jun 2013 at 17:03:37

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Unbelievably warm this evening with just a very light breeze - been a long time LOL.

Birds are going hell for leather on the seeds - I can stand at the kitchen window and literally watch them drop on the feeders - lots of baby birds fighting for the food.

My roses (all varieties) seem to be taking their time at opening, same with the clematis - anyone else notice this?

Replied: 3rd Jun 2013 at 18:24

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I have a clematis Montana that's flowering,but it is the most common one and hardy,but roses are definitely taking their time..hopefully more sunshine will help them along,mind you,I've never stop spraying the greenfly on them,they're just covered in them..nothing seems to stop wild garlic though,it's rampant.

Replied: 3rd Jun 2013 at 20:29

Posted by: keily (306) 

Hi everyone, just to let you all know i have listed an 8 x 6 greenhouse in the ads, needs a bit of TLC but would make a good summer afternoon pass by, was going to use it for my chilli plants but due to new addition to family space is against me so chilli plants will be indoors, any interest just drop me a message or call.....

Replied: 4th Jun 2013 at 17:44

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

The ones from Wilkos are really good.

....although I have only potted up with them so far - have yet to see what kind of crops I get.

Great weather this, lovely being out with the dog all day - we were up and out at 4 this morning.

Replied: 6th Jun 2013 at 12:02

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Same time as me Veg....I am up at 4 but I am still in bed due to the fact that.....well ya know it is winter here......brrrrrrrr!!!

Replied: 6th Jun 2013 at 12:41

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - it was only a few weeks ago that I was shivering. I was using the fire up until the end of May.

Another hot one today!

Replied: 6th Jun 2013 at 12:55

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Got another Mother Blackbird shrieking away outside so I have sent Thor out just in case there any cats. Sounds like the chick is in a tree as opposed to on the ground, so hopefully there will be a better outcome with this one.

Had lots of this over the last few weeks, what with this and Springwatch - it is all too much for me.

Replied: 7th Jun 2013 at 13:49

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



The Cape Honeysuckle is flowering madly in our front yard....another Winter bloomer.......

Replied: 12th Jun 2013 at 01:56

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie that Cape Honeysuckle is beautiful - really vibrant.

Does it grow tall?

Replied: 18th Jun 2013 at 05:36

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



Just taken this outside in the front yard to show how big ours is....it is more like a creeper Veg, it is entangled on itself....you can't kill it. I could cut it down to nearly ground level and it would come back with a vengeance!! It needs a trim badly but the birds love the nectar they get from the flowers and it is full of bees....

Replied: 18th Jun 2013 at 06:14

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thats a cracker Lizzie - yes, leave the nectar for the birds and bees and then chop it after flowering.

I bet your husband has his work cut out mowing your front lawn.

PS - thats a lovely old tree in your neighbour's garden on the right.

Replied: 18th Jun 2013 at 06:27

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Ha ha yes he does.....the tree is massive and keeps blocking the pipes up by the top of the drive.....lucky it is free to get them cleared by S.A. Water. We are very good friends with the neighbour....live and let live is my motto.....that was the tree all the corellas were in....the drive was littered with branches.....we cut them up for mulch around the garden.....don't cost us anything just a bit of sweat......

Replied: 18th Jun 2013 at 06:38

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Bhutan plans to become the first country in the world to turn its agriculture completely organic, banning the sales of pesticides and herbicides and relying on its own animals and farm waste for fertilizers.


Replied: 19th Jun 2013 at 09:01

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I doubt they will have to change much - I think they are one of those countries that shuts themselves off to the rest of the world.

I am sure I read somewhere that they are the least developed country on earth.

We would do well to follow their lead....

Replied: 19th Jun 2013 at 09:49

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



The massive tree towers above our little house.....trouble is the tree is classed as significant....so our neighbour would have to seek permission from the council if it ever needed removing while it was healthy......the cost of removing it would be in the thousands of dollars.....

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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Wow thats a whopper!

We have similar laws regarding trees in this country Lizzie, he would be better to cut back rather than kill it. Trees give us the oxygen we need to survive.

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 05:56

Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

I aw this yesterday. can anyone identify it? on the middle ball there's a little flower opened

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 10:45

Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

I love trees too. here's one I saw yesterday

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 10:47

Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

and this is the stripey bark of a japanese cherry

wrong photo. this is a cedar!

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 10:49
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Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

japanese cherry with red stripey bark

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 10:53

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Sorry I can't help with the flower - but the bark on that tree is beautiful.

Replied: 20th Jun 2013 at 10:53

Posted by: cllr gareth fairhurst (5397)

Does anyone know if ash is good for mixing with soil?

Replied: 21st Jun 2013 at 00:19

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Try our Aussie garden guru about this....burkesbackyard.com.au Our man in the garden Don Burke knows everything about anything in the garden..including about garden ash.....

Replied: 21st Jun 2013 at 00:53

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Gareth - yes - so long as the plants aren't acid lovers. If you have strawberries - they love a dressing of ashes.

Ashes from recently pruned trees/hedges and what have you gives the best results.

Replied: 21st Jun 2013 at 08:19

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Those grow -bags I got from Wilkinsons are well good. Had good results with the tomatoes and aubergines, just waiting for the fruit.

Hark at Monty Don running in out of the rain (last night) the soft bugger, I could understand if it was the middle of winter.

I am sure Carol Klein has had surgery - it used to look like her face was sliding off, and now it is all plump and taut.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 16:21

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I definitely noticed different about her..thought at first it was her teeth that had been changed at first..have to laugh the way she pronounces flowers...flarrs.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 16:34

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Momac - she always sounds like she is drunk to me.

A quick Google reveals she is from down the road in Walkden.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 16:51

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Also..a couple who were admirers of hers bought a house with garden adjoining hers,but trouble started when Carol put her compost heap right on the very edge of her garden that was too close to theirs..so they're not speaking now...aren't we catty.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 17:04

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Replied: 22nd Jun 2013 at 17:29

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Anybody tried one of these "ASADAS" (Digging Hoes) yet?
Easier than a spade, different sizes for different conditions. I've just received one & it's a doddle to use.
The model I have is a "Chillington Baby", drop forged head & long shaft..Ideal for 'owd 'uns wi' bad backs

Replied: 23rd Jun 2013 at 01:23

Posted by: kathpressey (5593) 

i find weeding hard with a bad back

Replied: 24th Jun 2013 at 09:14

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Weeding gives me a headache - the only way I can weed without getting a headache is to kneel down.

Art - that looks like a handy instrument, thanks for posting a pic of it!

Replied: 24th Jun 2013 at 15:21

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

Here's a few more:

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Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thanks for posting that TOM.

So, Thor has been eating the strawberries ripe or otherwise, I should have netted things off. Still redcurrants and gooseberries are ripening nicely, and although the apple blossom was late this year - they seem to be really making up for it - they are swelling beautifully.

Loads to do, just hoping for some better weather...

Replied: 4th Jul 2013 at 11:37

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



the grevillea superb is blossoming lovely....oops....blue boot....tsk tsk!!!
Bad photography.....

Replied: 4th Jul 2013 at 12:00

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Lizzie - that looks quite tropical.

.....and I don't mean the boot.

Replied: 4th Jul 2013 at 16:10

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

I know it does Veg very tropical....but it was far from tropical yesterday(your today)..... We had an 11C morning but by late morning the wind chill was about 3C.....The natives just love cold, wet weather, the Kangaroo Paw plants are starting to flower also....so topsy turvey here..........

Replied: 4th Jul 2013 at 21:05

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

The hot weather is here hope it gets the flowers blooming folks .

Replied: 6th Jul 2013 at 17:00

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Anyone know how to remove broadleaf grass from lawns, leaving just the fine leaf stuff to flourish.

Replied: 7th Jul 2013 at 07:22

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Very nice TOM.....do you get some butterflies around it too.?

Replied: 7th Jul 2013 at 20:35

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

In the paper today. An 85 year old woman used a bottle of red wine to kill off some slugs!
Then discovered the wine she used was worth £45 a bottle...

Happy slugs

Replied: 8th Jul 2013 at 01:15

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Hic....Hic.....Hic..........I think I mentioned before that my Mum used to leave out beer for the snails and slugs.....

Replied: 8th Jul 2013 at 04:55

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Bit quiet on 'ere.

Picked some lovely new potatoes yesterday, also redcurrants, yellow raspberries, red gooseberries - God these are nicer than grapes!

I think Thor may have done for my onions - they not looking to big, garlic looks better, only me has them anyway.

Got lots of cherries this year - had none last year, and there is a chance the birds may take these as they not ripe yet.

My redcurrant bush looks full of rubies - I will have to freeze some, got some younger ones coming on nicely. This old one, the branches are spreading like I don't know what, some nearly touching the floor, will have to support this, first job today.

What are you lot up to.

Replied: 12th Jul 2013 at 09:40

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



My Arum Lilies are flowering.....variegated ones......

Replied: 12th Jul 2013 at 10:15

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Picked some potatoes out of bags today,had some with a ham salad..boy are they good..and here's me trying to lose weight..had some strawberries each day this week..not touched the peas yet but they look very nice..can't say I'm going to have a lot of toms though..cucs are coming on..cherry tree not produced any at all..this is it's second year..hopefully next year I'll have some cherries.

Replied: 12th Jul 2013 at 16:50

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

my red currants



Picked about 8lb so far. Birds have more or less had all the cherries ( can't net a 15ft tree ). Onions, peas & runner beans doing well, Had quite a few strawberries/raspberries. Damsons looking good, I didn't have a single one last year. Plums look good. I hope adding calcium to the soil stops my apples from getting bitter pit this year ( fingers crossed ). Overall a lot better than last year.

Replied: 12th Jul 2013 at 23:00

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

All I can think of is red currant jelly.....yummy......

Replied: 13th Jul 2013 at 03:40

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Nightchap - do you ever freeze your redcurrants, and if so do you leave the strings on?

I have always removed them but it is quite painstaking.

How did you go on with those Spanish Toms? My Gardeners Delight are a bit slow to flower/fruit this year.

Replied: 13th Jul 2013 at 17:03

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

VG - My dad uses them to make red currant jelly and to take the currants from the stalk he holds one end of the stalk and uses an ordinary table fork and slides it down the stalk. I have never tried to freeze them. The "Canario" toms are doing well, plenty of flowers and quite a few have set.
T of M - As I understand it, Bitter Pit is a condition rather than a disease. Of all that I have read about it there are many possible causes, but the main cause that all seem to agree on is a shortage of calcium. Having said that I have read that even on calcium laden ground apple trees can still suffer from it. It is then caused by other factors such as not enough water, not enough iron in the soil, bad pruning, damaged bark - the list seems endless. Last year I tried spraying the tree with calcium only to find out that on my variety it makes the leaves go brown at the edges. I didn't read the small print until too late oops. The apples are still edible - just have to peel them first.

Replied: 13th Jul 2013 at 23:00

Posted by: nightchap (315) 

I'll let you know if this calcium treatment has any effect - so far no bitter pit - but it is early days.

Replied: 14th Jul 2013 at 12:15

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I have only ever heard of Bitter Pit in old gardening books.

I have five apple trees and the only thing I have ever fed them with is the odd bit of liquid manure. Seem to be doing better this year with the apples, struggling to see the pears - think the blossom was had by frost.

Replied: 14th Jul 2013 at 12:15

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

Funny thing about this years weather with Winter in the Spring and Summer arriving very late the end result in my case is that my garden is looking noticeably better than usual in July.Anyone find the same.

Replied: 16th Jul 2013 at 20:54

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I will go along with that, everything is lush in the back, fruit is doing btter than ever - apart from pears whose blossom was lost to the frost.

Seem to have more fledglings too this year, I have never seen so many baby birds, or bought so much seed/nuts etc.

My neighbour is cutting down his Elderberry tree, so I am going to take some cuttings, would rather he kept the tree.

Replied: 17th Jul 2013 at 07:36

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Made some Redcurrantjam with my home-grown Redcurrants yesterday - very easy to make too.

I am making Redcurrant Jelly with the other half today, in between eating them of course.

....may try raspberry next. Not doing as well with the strawberries this year.

Replied: 18th Jul 2013 at 06:49

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Found this site earlier, whilst checking on how to freeze fruit and veg. It covers each one individually, handy if you are not sure about something.

gardenfresco.co.uk

Replied: 18th Jul 2013 at 15:54

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

This might be of interest:

* Dig the City / 3rd - 11th August 2013 / Manchester's Urban Gardening Festival *

Link - www.digthecity.co.uk

Replied: 31st Jul 2013 at 17:06

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Jo anne - thanks for posting that link, I've signed up for the newsletter, there is something for everyone there,I imagine it will be a good week - lots happening in Manchester at the moment.

Watching the news recently, and there have been many features on railways stations and other projects, were people have been sowing and planting veggies, and allowing people to help themselves. Has anyone seen any of these?

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 10:06

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

I haven't seen any projects where people are allowed to help themselves to produce yet, Veg Grower. They sound like great community-minded schemes.

thebrick.org.uk (@Brick_Homeless) -- Keen gardener wanted

'Do you love gardening? Would you like to pass that skill on to others? Do you wish you had an allotment?

The Brick has a plot on the community allotment on Worsley Hall. We need someone to accompany clients and pass on their skills, whilst having the time and enthusiasm to help with the plot.

Are you the right person? Call them on 01942 236953 or email enquiries@thebrick.org.uk '

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 10:29

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

trawled through gardening posts this morning and see there is some discussion on compost. I use B&Q verve general for everything I mix it with SHARP sand not BUILDERS sand, this makes it go farther and provides good drainage.



I also have these marguerites which must be at least 50 years old as they were here when I moved in over 43 years ago. I do thin them out, anybody wants any they are quite welcome later in the year.

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 11:59

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 12:02

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Nice pics Anne.....love the blue flowering hanging baskets....they look like petunias....

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 12:17

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Lizzie, Surfinias, trailing petunias. Grow very well in the mix I described as does everything else.

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 12:21

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

I always buy premium potting soil for containers....it is fairly cheap to buy and has slow release fertiliser added so it will kick anything on for 4 months...

Replied: 1st Aug 2013 at 12:29

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Anne - what trees do you have in your garden - although I can't see them fully, I think they look magnificent.

Lovely beans/flowers too.

Replied: 2nd Aug 2013 at 08:34

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Momac how are those seed doing are they flowering yet .Some lovely hanging baskets and flowers keen gardeners on here and some good tips .

Replied: 3rd Aug 2013 at 16:58

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Veggie, quite a selection of trees, several conifers , sycamore, scots pine, Norwegian spruce? copper beech, silver birch, crabapple. All except the crabapple tower above the house but pale into insignificance compared with one of my neighbours trees. A giant beech which when I first moved here some initials with a date carved. The date was almost gone but was either 1908-09-05 now grown out altogether. So this particular tree must be knocking on for at least 150years.
Your Thor would have plenty to wee wee on.

Replied: 3rd Aug 2013 at 17:26

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ann..lots of flowers in bloom and lots been eaten by those little so and so's..snails..tomatoes coming on now after a slow start..runner beans have been successful..cucs still growing,but next year am going to get couple of fruit trees..hope you're well chuck.

Replied: 3rd Aug 2013 at 18:21

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I opened the back door last night to let Thor have a pee and because I had the kitchen light on - I could see loads of moths flying towards the house - it was quite eerie, I might film it tonight.

My apples are growing beautifully, picked the last of the redcurrants, birds have eaten the cherries, I am on my third picking of my red gooseberries and they are so sweet, still picking red and yellow raspberries, my strawbs haven't done as well this year.

Outdoor tomatoes really come on since I planted them out - funnily enough I was debating whether to burn them they had gone a bit leggy on the windowsill and looked the worse for wear - now they are thriving, and I am glad because they were from organic seed and a bit expensive.

Done alright with the garlic, but the onions are not what they should have been - but I will blame Thor for trampling their bed. Got tons of Blackberrys - just waiting for them to ripen.

Just heard on the news that the crop harvest is better this year - the farmers had such a bad year last year - I am so glad they are having a good 2013.

Anyone watch Allotment Wars on BBC last night?

BBC Allotment Wars - 6 days left to watch



Replied: 7th Aug 2013 at 12:47
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Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Hi Veg.....looks like our farmers will have a bumper crop this year too with all the lovely rain we have had...good for the farmers and the economy....

Replied: 7th Aug 2013 at 13:04

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thats great Lizzie - I'm glad your farmers have done well too.

Replied: 7th Aug 2013 at 13:06

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

A free copy of Gardener's World magazine for anyone interested....

Free Copy of Gardeners World

Replied: 13th Aug 2013 at 10:35

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

Never,never,ever plant bamboo.I have spent 5 solid days clearing 1 sq.metre,broken one fork and worn out a hand saw.The darned stuff fights you all the way.

Replied: 18th Aug 2013 at 14:20

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

I was thinking of planting some bamboo in a large pot to give my fountain patio a bit of an oriental look. Following your experience would a pot hold it in check.

Replied: 18th Aug 2013 at 14:42

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

Hi Ane,I have seen the black bamboo thriving and trouble free in pots...looks very striking.
I was thinking that maybe one of those fracking machines we hear so much about,would lift up bamboo.

Replied: 18th Aug 2013 at 18:25

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 



So much rain it has flooded the veggie patch....

Replied: 23rd Aug 2013 at 04:24

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Dave - I have heard about bamboo being a devil to get rid of, a lot of people use it as screening, only fit for a permanent position.

Aw Lizzie - you are all washed out at the moment, is there more rain to come or are you set for a dry spell?

Replied: 23rd Aug 2013 at 09:07

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Sunday and Monday dry, then back to the odd shower....

Replied: 23rd Aug 2013 at 09:21

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

hi,veg grower.The bamboo I have can grow 12 ft in a few months.The shoots are very close together ,almost touching,yet the root of each shoot is the size of a football,so each one is interlocked with its neighbour.I removed it one shoot at a time and had to hose blast each shoot as I loosened it.Cutting the roots with a sharp spade is very difficult as the spade often bounces of the bamboo and you could loose a toe or two.I have won the war but not the battle.

On the other hand I have a beautiful broad leaf grass.The leaves have a white stripe and it grows up to 15 ft. each year after being cut to the ground in early Spring.It is non-invasive and in spite of its height does not require staking even in very strong winds.

Nice chatting.

Replied: 24th Aug 2013 at 21:07

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I wish I had the space for some grasses, I've seen some lovely displays in larger gardens where they aren't restricted, there are lots of smaller ones I know.

Right folks, I'm off to pick my Blackberries and make my mother some more jam.

Apples are looking good too, nowhere near ready yet though.

Replied: 26th Aug 2013 at 13:46

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

You don't need a lot of space,Veg grower,just a few sq. metres.Nothing looks better on a windy day.

Replied: 26th Aug 2013 at 14:06

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

I think it's phyliostrachis aurea,the one they feed to pandas,townofmemories.

Replied: 27th Aug 2013 at 08:22

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Anne - I found this when looking for something else:

Oriental Black Bamboo

"Phyllostachys nigra" - is non invasive and does well in large pots.

Lots of other info online, very striking/decorative.

Replied: 28th Aug 2013 at 12:34

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Thanks Veggie will look it up, such a lot on at the moment.

Replied: 31st Aug 2013 at 14:23

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

I have just cleared a few shrubs that have been there for 20 years or more.I am going to plant grasses in the empty space.Not a great deal of room so I will plant about half a dozen varieties.I am thinking of planting in large pots buried in the soil so that the strongest wont take over and they wont all run into each other.There are so many different sizes and shapes and colour that the effect could be quite striking.

Replied: 31st Aug 2013 at 18:34

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Grasses are used a lot in 'sensory gardens'.

Replied: 1st Sep 2013 at 14:46

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Was looking at them in the garden centre yesterday..they looked lovely blowing in the wind..I've never took an interest in them before..my tastes must be changing,I've got a nice couple of spots in the back garden.

Replied: 1st Sep 2013 at 15:06

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

I've had a miniature Rhododenrun for a couple of years. There are buds all over it but it never flowers. What can I do.

Replied: 1st Sep 2013 at 17:19

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Is it in a pot or in the ground? If it is in a pot I would imagine that is the problem, but I am no expert, perhaps someone else grows them and can advise you.

Replied: 1st Sep 2013 at 17:21

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

veg It's in a pot.

Replied: 1st Sep 2013 at 17:24

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

tom It's just ordinary compost. The amount of buds is unbelievable. I am wishing they would come out.

Replied: 2nd Sep 2013 at 20:15

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Thank you tom

Replied: 2nd Sep 2013 at 23:08

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I think rhododendrons are beautiful, I always remember them from my childhood, they were in all the parks.

How big is it Marie?

Replied: 3rd Sep 2013 at 10:48

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

veg It's in a pot and about two feet tall. When I look at it with all these buds on which don't flower. I will try ericaseus feed as tom suggests and see if that helps.

Replied: 3rd Sep 2013 at 20:55

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

tom right

Replied: 3rd Sep 2013 at 21:16

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Personally I think it would do better in the ground - sometimes they are given no special treatment when in the ground, and they do thrive - but growers now tend to do as TOM suggests.

*********

So, my Thor is helping himself to apples from the trees, I think he did the same with the raspberries and strawberries this year - hardly had any. Funnily enough, he never touched the onions or garlic.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 13:35

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Tom is right,but I agree with v.g.I think it would do better in the ground..I think all plants will do better in the ground...nearly all mine are in tubs..everywhere was flagged in our garden because it was always waterlogged...Veggie, Owd Dave that used to be on w.w has two pugs and are always pinching his tomatoes.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 14:31

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Awwwwwwww.

I caught him with one on the couch this morning, and I actually praised him, rather he brings an apple in off the tree than a bird.

I'm afraid he became fond of one or two fledglings this year - he didn't bite or eat them, he just picked them up by their tail feathers and then put them back down again, he only wanted to play - poor birds.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 15:43

Posted by: momac (12435) 

He sounds like a great dog..pity they're not all like him.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 15:53

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

He has a wonderful nature Momac - exactly the same as Molly was actually - its funny I didn't expect that from a male dog.

Never had a growl out of either of them, not even when playing.

I beg your pardon, I called you Lizzie.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 16:03
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Posted by: momac (12435) 

It's all about the owner veggie...I can't see where you called me Lizzie.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 16:17

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Its okay I amended it @ 16.12.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 21:20

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Oh I see.

Replied: 11th Sep 2013 at 21:42

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Just picked, and am now eating my first apple of the year, the shops cannot match this taste - Thor is waiting for the core.

I have caught him stealing one or two from the lower branches recently but I don't mind.

Replied: 23rd Sep 2013 at 19:12

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

TOM - do you not worry about them getting diseased by leaving them on the tree?

I have some that are marked on the skin but I will just peel these and use them for cooking. I have another tree which I know has brown spot but it is round the side, will leave those for the birds over winter.

Replied: 24th Sep 2013 at 11:08

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

I picked some potatoes this afternoon, they were some what had sprited early this year , anyway Ive kept them watered
all the time got 11lb from 4 plants, the potatoes are giants
ideal for baking or chipping.My question is ,on the plant tops there are some green tomatoe like round balls about 1 inch dia ,can these be used to grow more potatoes ??

Replied: 24th Sep 2013 at 19:05

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Dave - as far as I am aware, the 'fruits' from potato plants never run true to type, ie: you may end up with something different to this years potato crop.

The potato growers/experts make use of them with regard to breeding better strains of potato - better against certain diseases such as blight. They are toxic by the way.

Replied: 24th Sep 2013 at 21:33

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

Thanks for your replys I was just curious not seen them before ,I have noticed different coloured flowers on the plants,last year I put some maris piper potatoe seeds in from wilkinsons
they had pink flowers ,this years had white flowers which were sprited potatoes i had left from the spar.
Going to be plenty chips/mash/bakers/lobbys/hotpots/

Replied: 24th Sep 2013 at 23:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

There was a discussion about this not long ago, and on further research I found out that not all potatoes will produce fruits. I think the growers have managed to develop them so that the plant concentrates all its efforts into the production of the potatoes underground.

Enjoy your spuds!

Replied: 25th Sep 2013 at 16:33

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Still picking apples 'ere last few I will leave for the birds for winter, lots of tidying up to do, need to have a fire.

Replanted some of the garlic cloves and some carrots need picking.

Replied: 24th Oct 2013 at 19:06

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Hello Veg.....well my lovely lawn is slowly on the way out....the sun is above the house now as the arc has changed.....rain is slowing and the soil is cracking already .....it was lovely while it lasted...hubby will be glad to put the mower away......but it is not quite gone yet.....bet your apples taste scrumptious .....pat to Thor 😊x

Replied: 25th Oct 2013 at 10:54

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Awww thanks Lizzie, he is diving on and off my bed at the mo, I have had to give him his own pillow - he can strip a bed and pillow cases in no time at all.

Well, your winter went quick, as did our summer I have held off putting the heating on so far - just had the fire on in the evenings. It is set to be stormy next week for us. xx

Replied: 25th Oct 2013 at 14:28

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Just shows you what a couple of days of 40C plus does to the grass and soil....😟

Replied: 21st Dec 2013 at 08:12

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

We got this as a small houseplant years ago as you do then we got sick of it so we was getting shut , I always believe in giving things a chance so we put it outside one summer and it survived, so now it's outside in summer and under the carport in winter this is it now


We also got this fuchsia from Aldi that will not survive outside in winter,so I'll give this a chance under the carport till next year, it still looks strong and still flowering

Replied: 22nd Dec 2013 at 11:04
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Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

It is a Christmas Cactus Dougie....and splendid specimen to...well done in giving it another chance....always pays off in the end..great sprouts..😊

Replied: 22nd Dec 2013 at 18:53

Posted by: marsin (191)

Dougie, l have a Christmas cactus that didn't get many flowers on soooo like you l put it out in the garden, then when it started to get cold l felt guilty and brought it inside. to my surprise within a couple of weeks it was full of buds then flowered like yours, love the bright pink colour.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2013 at 21:24

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I don't do anything with mine till the first buds appear, then feed it with a bit of tomato feed mixed with water but not to much, about every two/three weeks why in flower

Replied: 23rd Dec 2013 at 22:15

Posted by: marsin (191)


l forgot to bring the tomato food indoors, it will have to stay in the shed now, had a snow storm yesterday and overnight. about 2 ft of snow drifts in front of the shed. temp is minus 26c with wind factor.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2013 at 23:28

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Wigan Allotment Network are having a couple of fruit tree focused sessions at Haigh Hall. (link)

On Thursday 13th February you can learn how to winter prune your fruit trees and have a nosey in the Walled Gardens at Haigh Hall.

On Thursday 27th February, you can come and take part in a fruit tree grafting session.

Both at Haigh Hall, 10am - noon.

Replied: 5th Feb 2014 at 08:39

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I know this is a bit late Dougie..but I have a Christmas cacti that flowers every Winter,but I keep mine upstairs all year away from daylight until it comes into bud then I bring it down to enjoy the gorgeous flowers..I was always under the belief and also read that they hadn't to see any form of daylight during the dormant period in order to flower..but you have really knocked that theory in the head haven't you..not to believe everything you read..

Replied: 5th Feb 2014 at 10:01

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

* Potato Day & Seed Sale / Sun 16th Feb 2014 / 11am - 3pm / Lucky Hens Rescue, Ince *

Potato & onion sets, seeds, compost, planting demos, Lucky Hens & veg stalls

Lucky Hens Rescue, Amberswood Common, Manchester Road, Ince, Wigan. WN2 3DR. (link)

FB link

Replied: 7th Feb 2014 at 17:48

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

So - I have down-sized and I am back living with my mother as I could not afford the rent by myself after my son moved out, no garden just a yard - where to start LOL?

Replied: 6th Mar 2014 at 09:44

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I feel for you veggie…keep doing the lottery,in the meantime,the pound shops sell plastic pots and cheap seeds..in the meantime,good luck to you,you never know what's around the corner.

Replied: 6th Mar 2014 at 10:00

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

No luck on the lottery Momac.A lovely week is forecast so no excuses anyone, not even for me and my yard.

Not bought any potatoes yet, need to get my skates on...

Forecast

Replied: 10th Mar 2014 at 07:06

Posted by: marsin (191)


veg grower, sorry that you lost your garden, l enjoyed reading about what you had planted and harvest. l am sure you will have another garden soon, in fact you will have lot/s of fun planning your new garden. Last yr l did mostly container gardening and enjoyed the challenge. l grew dwarf apples, potato and carrots, onions herbs etc. good luck.

Replied: 14th Mar 2014 at 07:37

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Don't lose heart veggie, a number of my relatives had yards and made them both productive and beautiful, especially grandad.

Replied: 14th Mar 2014 at 07:56

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thank you for the encouragement ladies, I have a few things planned - but the first job is to replace my brothers small sapling of an apple tree which my dog Thor chewed the first week we moved in.

Replied: 15th Mar 2014 at 13:41

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Hi Veg....I have every confidence in you....💗x

Replied: 17th Mar 2014 at 19:14

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

I only have a yard but ive got some climbing roses and blue morning glory from seeds i like me flowers and me flowers make me happy .

Replied: 19th Mar 2014 at 18:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I love climbing roses, those and morning glory are great growing against fences or brick walls.

I am going to sort my Mum's shed this weekend, then I can start some sowing.

Replied: 22nd Mar 2014 at 08:12

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Veggie..while your'e waiting for your roses to grow,if you like Clematis..Montana will grow very fast against a brick wall.

Replied: 22nd Mar 2014 at 08:22

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Thanks Momac, I had a Clematis at my old house and a bit gutted about leaving it - I left it because they don't usually like disturbance, not sure what type it was, but I will look up the Montana you suggest.

Replied: 23rd Mar 2014 at 10:58

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Replied: 23rd Mar 2014 at 12:23

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Momac never heard of the montana where will i get one of those please .

Replied: 28th Mar 2014 at 17:54

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ann,B&Q have them..in the meantime Ann,I'll see if I can get a cutting from mine to take for you.

Replied: 28th Mar 2014 at 18:02

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Thanks maureen

Replied: 30th Mar 2014 at 19:22

Posted by: curly (1064)

Montana because of its speedy growth is also sometimes called the "Mile a Minute Clematis" hope it helps to anybody looking for one.

Replied: 3rd Apr 2014 at 18:26

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Just realised, it was a Clematis Montana that I had in my old garden, I remembered the name and googled it...

Miss Bateman

Been down to my brother's allotment this morning and I am soooooo envious, he also gave me some of his seed potatoes - King Edward - which are a maincrop variety. Painting my Mum's shed in the yard - I fancy it for an refuge/office. What you lot up to?

Replied: 5th Apr 2014 at 12:11

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Just been looking at the sheds women have painted in the Daily Mail supplement..which ours could look like that..I keep fancying painting ours a nice pale lemon,bit Cliff says it won't work and will look dollish,but I don't know..I'm very tempted.

Replied: 5th Apr 2014 at 23:03

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Momac - I saw those sheds featured in the DM and they look a bit designer - nice if you have the money I guess.

I'm doing the inside at the moment with some paint I had left over from my old house, and it is a very pale pink/beige (off-white I guess you could call it) and I was contemplating buying pale green or blue for the outside, but lemon sounds much sunnier.

Replied: 6th Apr 2014 at 10:12

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I agree Veggie re the cost of those sheds,but our shed is so full of stuff...where do those women put all the gardening tackle etc..I would dearly love a shed like those..aren't some folk lucky.

Replied: 6th Apr 2014 at 10:54

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Well, we are set for a lovely week, at least today, tomorrow and Wednesday. Night temperatures are set to dip pretty sharp so if you have anything tender I'd get it covered. Weather

Been painting the inside of mine shed, and I am about to sow some Morning Glory seeds that AnnSpam mentioned, whatever else I have enough pots for, oh and my King Edward potatoes.

Replied: 14th Apr 2014 at 13:20

Posted by: lizziedownunder (7434) 

Well done Veg....keep up the good work....😊👍

Replied: 15th Apr 2014 at 21:50

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Sown some Sunflowers, Moneymaker Tomatoes, Aubergine, Beth Cucumbers - they are a mini variety and some Beetroot called Wodan which I have never grown before.

I have a mini plastic greenhouse which will just fit down the side of the shed, so will not (should not) blow about.

Replied: 16th Apr 2014 at 09:51

Posted by: harryjames (inactive)

Be careful of water pooling on top if it is one of the ones with a plastic cover.

Replied: 17th Apr 2014 at 01:10

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Good point about the rainwater Harry James.

This is the first time I will have used it - had it 3 years and it is still in the box.

A cloudy day today but wall to wall sunshine forecast for Friday and Saturday, anyone got anything planned for the garden???

Replied: 17th Apr 2014 at 09:29
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Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Veg grower how is your morning glory seed doing with this weather .

Replied: 27th Apr 2014 at 13:10

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

I only sowed them a couple of weeks ago Ann, so they have only just come through, but they gave a sowing date of March/April same with my Sunflowers. I gave everything a bit of a feed yesterday in order to gee them up a bit and the seedlings are bobbing nicely in the sunshine. I take them in the shed at night just to keep them out of any frost although it did say to sow them outside. How are yours going on Ann?

My dog Thor has been fishing the potatoes out of the sacks that I have planted them in - I'll be lucky to get any at this rate.

For those interested, there is a free Bee Seeds giveaway here on Facebook if you 'Like' their page Bumblebee Conservation Trust

Replied: 29th Apr 2014 at 11:13
Last edited by veg grower: 29th Apr 2014 at 11:18:47

Posted by: mortarmillbill (928)

Frost forecast for Friday and saturday night in the North West - I had better get my fleece out again and cover my tomatoes.

Replied: 1st May 2014 at 13:41

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I planted some wild garlic a couple of years ago we brought from Yorkshire,bad move..this time of year it's in flower and looks very nice but it literally takes over if you don't keep your eye on it..between paving stones among other plants..so if you see any growing wild..take a tip and leave it there.

Replied: 6th May 2014 at 18:36

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

WLCT - link

Learn how to grow your own veg on a special 12 week course in Wigan's Mesnes Park.

Find out more
•Call 01942 488481 for more information, or
•Join them at the cabin in the depot at Mesnes Park for a growing taster day on Saturday 31st May between 10am and 2pm.

Replied: 16th May 2014 at 17:42

Posted by: harryjames (inactive)

If you have a plant that is quite 'invasive', you can help stop the spread by cutting the bottoms off deep pots, and then plant them inside these pots, after you have sunk them into the ground.

Replied: 17th May 2014 at 13:38

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

hello anyopne got any poppy seeds or poppy plants -please to buy many thanks

Replied: 31st May 2014 at 12:46

Posted by: harryjames (inactive)

I've used Victoriana Nursery for seeds as well as plants, ann-spam, I rate them.

Replied: 31st May 2014 at 21:40

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Thanks harryjames ive sent for a brochure .

Replied: 2nd Jun 2014 at 17:07

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 



The Good Life Show and a week of events before hand! (Poster)


Monday is all about food with cooking and clay oven making demos.

Tuesday is all about bees and hens! Come and meet the bees and watch them busy at work in thier hive and watch how to make a traditional skep (10am-2pm).

And Thursday is plant day with plant sales and tips and advice.

All culminating in the Good Life Show Sunday 10th August.

Wigan Allotment Network

Replied: 15th Jul 2014 at 23:14
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Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Has anyone got any lavender plants for sale please .

Replied: 26th Jul 2014 at 18:14

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Hi Ann..they're selling them cheap at Lidl.

Replied: 26th Jul 2014 at 18:31

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Sorry Ann, I should have said at the Standish Lidl,not the
Pemberton one.

Replied: 26th Jul 2014 at 19:35

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

Anybody growing sunflowers,the flowers are just coming on now tallest one 7ft 5ins grow them every year sometimes I buy seeds ,and sometimes theres a few in my budgie seed mix i try them.To start them off I cut the bottoms off plastic bottles to cover them .it stops the slugs eating them till they get going.



Replied: 6th Aug 2014 at 19:07
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Posted by: Anne (4386) 

How neat and tidy; healthy too. Is that the clothes line your using? Will your budgies eat the seeds?

Replied: 6th Aug 2014 at 19:41

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

No anne my clothes line is a retractable one,Ive fix the post to the fence with G cramps and put the ropes across to the clothes prop for extra support because strong winds are expected this weekend ,yes when the flower heads are dead I let them dry and break the seeds out and mix a few in with the budgie mix.

Replied: 7th Aug 2014 at 00:40

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

7ft 7ins in height now ,flower came out today

Replied: 9th Aug 2014 at 18:09

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

I got some horse manure today for my roses does it bring them on or is it a old wives tale .

Replied: 11th Aug 2014 at 15:49

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Yes Ann it does,we got some a couple of years ago,but oh the
insects in the boot when we got home..there was thousands
of them.
By the way Ann,that little plant that I thought was Snapdragon
WASN'T..but I've taken seedlings off them and Cosmos..and
Nasturtiums so next Spring I'll pot some up ready for you.

Replied: 11th Aug 2014 at 16:09

Posted by: PeterP (11306)

We have a Purple corkscrew hazel(red majestic)but during the hot weather the pot dried out and most of the leaves wiltedIs there a chance we can save itor is it too late and easier to buy another

Replied: 13th Aug 2014 at 19:20

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Thsnks maureen ive got a yellow flower on my tomato plant will i still get tomatoes this year or is it to late with weather going cooler .

Replied: 15th Aug 2014 at 10:20

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

Just measured sunflower 8ft 5in beat my 2012 record of 8ft


Replied: 8th Sep 2014 at 15:49
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Posted by: momac (12435) 

Ann it is a bit late now to get any toms..sorry to disappoint
you.

Replied: 8th Sep 2014 at 16:30

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

Maureen This garden is driving me nuts. Everything growing like wildfire. I'll have another go tomorrow.

Replied: 8th Sep 2014 at 21:11

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Marie,cut everything back really hard..that's what I'm doing
at the moment.

Replied: 8th Sep 2014 at 22:34

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Momac ive got two so im chuffed hope your better now

Replied: 9th Sep 2014 at 12:19

Posted by: momac (12435) 

I'm getting there Ann..it's been an uphill climb though.x

Replied: 9th Sep 2014 at 12:27

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Forgot to say Ann,I've got all sorts of seeds off my plants
so you'll not go short of plants next Spring..will get them all started then pot them up ready for you.

Replied: 9th Sep 2014 at 12:31

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Thats good to know momac thanks .

Replied: 17th Sep 2014 at 20:53

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

@WiganGNetwork: Why don't you come and join us on tuesday mornings at Haigh Hall in the beautiful walled gardens. Theres lots to do in the orchard and on the gardens. Full instruction given.10-12

Wigan Allotments - FB Page

Replied: 18th Sep 2014 at 12:25

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

OH IM REALLY EXCITED HAS THIS LOVELY WEATHER SUN SHINE MY TOMATO PLANT IS THRIVING WITH TOMATOES

Replied: 19th Sep 2014 at 19:07

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Good for you Ann..chuffed as a butty aren't you.

Replied: 19th Sep 2014 at 19:34

Posted by: marsin (191)

brought all my tomatoes in on tues - had frost the last 3 nights.the plants are all limp with the frost, the begonias are not looking too healthy .Having a nice tomato buttie for my tea-fresh bread, best butter , tom,salt and pepper!

Replied: 19th Sep 2014 at 23:10

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Marsin nice tomato butty with mayonaise .

Replied: 20th Sep 2014 at 16:03

Posted by: dave b (1328) 

Sunflower update ,final height 8ft 9in, cut them down today and saved the heads, let them dry out and share the seeds between the wild birds and my budgies.

Replied: 8th Oct 2014 at 23:10

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Register for 2015 Grow Wild free seed kits

'Get ready to Grow Wild - registration is now open' link

Replied: 25th Oct 2014 at 17:14

Posted by: ann-spam (3470) 

Dougie is the red plant a christmas one and can you take cuttings of them .

Replied: 27th Oct 2014 at 20:04

Posted by: aiflanc (1463)

I would like to propogate a blackberry ,from some I bought .
I have tried about 6 times before without getting a seedling . The berries I have are very plump ,very sweet,and of course black but I dont know the variety, I would presume they are commercial and possibly foriegn. Any help appreciated.

Replied: 5th Nov 2014 at 16:59
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Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Sorry Ann--Yes you can and it's so easy I just broke about six end peaces off and stud them upright round a plant pot odds are you'll get 2/3 out of them,I've not done any for years as I've enough with this one so here it is again it should stay in flower till the end of March,

I've had to leave the fushia outside this year has it's far to big I only hope it's hardened itself off last year under the carport and it pulls through

Replied: 14th Nov 2014 at 19:56
Last edited by dougie: 14th Nov 2014 at 20:00:12

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Just like to mention Wilco's were selling the gardening stuff off cheap in Wigan they had these big bags of wild flower mixed seeds & Feed for £1 should have been £6 anyone see them -- I got five of them not telling where I scattered them but they are not in my garden but they may help the birds this winter or the bess next summer

Replied: 14th Nov 2014 at 20:13

Posted by: jo anne (34722) 

Tree planting & woodland management sessions at Bickershaw Country Park, 10am - 2.30pm:

Tues 27 Jan / Sat 31 Jan / Tues 24 Feb / Tues 10 March

Links: Wigan Council / Red Rose Forest


Lucky Hens Rescue Potato Day ~ Sun 8th Feb 11-2pm ~ expert growing advice ~ Hindley
Link

Replied: 16th Jan 2015 at 12:28

Posted by: staffbullterrier (2224)

has anyone grown any chillies outdoors, any recommendations? prefare hot ones

Replied: 12th Apr 2015 at 12:13

Posted by: phred (352) 

Yes,three varieties,but I have the climate for them,just south of Durban,South Africa.Try growing them from seed,plant out andhope.I grew them in Secunda up on the highveld where the winters were quite cold (minus five C),but they grew well.

Replied: 12th Apr 2015 at 17:57

Posted by: staffbullterrier (2224)

would you post me a couple of bags of warm dirt phred

and some sunshine in a bag please

Replied: 13th Apr 2015 at 17:10

Posted by: mindar (1334)

dougie, what a lovely Schlumbergera.

Replied: 10th Jul 2017 at 18:37

Posted by: PeterP (11306)

Mindar don't forget we are on gardening part 3

Replied: 10th Jul 2017 at 21:12

Posted by: mindar (1334)

Sorry I just clicked on a link had a read and came across that lovely Schlumbergera Its a favourite plant of mine I have 4 one pink which flowers round Easter time and 3 red that flower round Christmas. I'm getting quite good at taking cuttings off these.

Replied: 15th Jul 2017 at 16:21

Posted by: momac (12435) 

Mindar..I have a Christmas one and an Easter one..are they easy to take
cuttings from.

Replied: 15th Jul 2017 at 16:41

Posted by: mindar (1334)

Look for those little stringy bits. Take 3 or 4 leaves off your plant, lay flat on fresh compost, pin down where the stringy bits are with a paper clip. I use a bit of rooting powder to help things along. Keep it barely damp not soaked. I didn't have much success at first trial and error really. Good luck

Replied: 15th Jul 2017 at 16:49
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Posted by: momac (12435) 

Thanks..Ill have a go at that.

Replied: 15th Jul 2017 at 16:54

 

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