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Oldest Pub In Wigan
Started by: klnw44848 (14) Report abuse
A while ago somebody posed the question as to " which was the oldest pub in wigan?". I was in the book shop in the galleries at the weekend while the wife was buying clothes again, and was reading a book about wigan. in there it states that the boars head is indeed the oldest pub in wigan, built in the thirteenth century. it also said that the boars head is in fact the second oldest pub in england. another feathr in wigan's flat cap eh.

Posted by: levi1962 (3576)   Report abuse
ok then whats the oldest pub thaqts still open in wigan

Posted by: klnw44848 (14) Report abuse
i dont know. i'm teetotal......honest

Posted by: levi1962 (3576)   Report abuse
i dont either just thought it was a good question like urs

Posted by: klnw44848 (14) Report abuse
would'nt it be nice if the council re-opened it and used it as a tourist attraction

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
The Boar's Head isn't in Wigan. It's in Standish. Did the book tell you what the oldest pub in Wigan was?

The Black Horse in Limbrick, south of Chorley, is the second oldest pub in Britain. According to form. Apparently. Probably, too.
You could say that's in Wigan, it's only up the road and the Wiganers wouldn't know the difference .

>:D

Posted by: klnw44848 (14) Report abuse
no it did'nt. sorry

Posted by: elizabeth (5210)  Report abuse
What about the Commercial Inn that used to be in Commercial Yard , that was or seemed to be a very old building and the Boars Head at the top of Chorley rd it was said that Dick Turpin used to viit there whilst on his travels

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
Dick Turpin, eh., Elizabeth? I heard they'd found an arrow, stuck in a tree in Haigh Hall woods, that might, apparently, have been shot by Robin Hood on one of his visits to Wigan. Probably according to one of the WAWTBR ........ (Wigan Archeological Wishful Thinkers and Believers in Rumour).

Posted by: elizabeth (5210)  Report abuse
No Tonker , sorry but it is in a history book somewhere I read it yonks ago apparently if memory serves me right from the book he used to ride up what is now called Chorley Road and dont forget all that area was fields and according to the history book he used to just call for a drink, not sure as it is many moons ago I went into the Pub I think there is a plaque there but cannot swear to it , perhaps one of you would call for a drink sometime and have a look

Posted by: gary1964 (3944)   Report abuse
robin hood is just a myth...

Posted by: wigan1957 (1813)  Report abuse


Both the Boar's Head and The Wheatsheaf were listed in 1778 amongst property owned by Edward Townley Standish, Lord of the Manor from 1778-1807.

Posted by: gary1964 (3944)   Report abuse
WIGAN1957 UR PROBALY RIGHT ..ITS PROBALY THE OLDEST PUB STILL GOING I DONT KNOW

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
Lord of the Manor of 'where'?

Posted by: wigan1957 (1813)  Report abuse
no idea tonker?...it didnt say owt else.

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
It should have said he was Lord of the Manor of Standish.

Posted by: ackky (774) Report abuse
Oldest Pub etc.
The oldest pub in England is a pub called the "Trip To Jerusalem" in Nottingham city centre.The second oldest pub still open and serving drinks is also in Nottingham called "The Salutation Arms" with possible the third oldest being the "Adam and Eve" in Norwich It is argued that the "Man and Sythe"in Bolton is possible the forth oldest, but I wouldn't argue on that.The two oldest are the two in Nottingham, with the Trip as it is called being open since the first crusade --- 11th century.They used to meet up at the Trip before going on the crusades.

Posted by: gibbo1962 (847)   Report abuse
Is that pub in Nottingham opposite the castle, if so been in that one

Posted by: ackky (774) Report abuse
gibbo1962
Yes the Trip to Jeruslem pub is near the castle in Nottingham. You can't forget the place once you have been in due to it being built into a massive rock which the castle stands on. All the rooms are chiselled out of the rock.

Posted by: rio caroni (5077)  Report abuse
Been in there several times over the years first time mid 1970`s latest a couple years back always has a good pint also nice meals and anyone interested you can have a look at the menu online.

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
Paddy was retiring from an engineering works, where he had worked all his life brushing up swarf in the machine shop. He had only ever had one brush in all the fifty years he'd worked there. It was a good brush, it had only had 100 new heads and 25 new shafts in all the time he'd had it.
The 'Trip To Jerusalem' is, in fact, no more than 300 years old. Parts of the structure of the 'Man and Scythe', in Bolton, has been proven to date back to the 13th century.

Posted by: truckerdave (2337)   Report abuse
Oh what the hell they all serve beer dont they, I dont care how old the pub is as long as the beer is cold

Posted by: gary1964 (3944)   Report abuse
agree with truckerdave

Posted by: truckerdave (2337)   Report abuse
cheer's gary

Posted by: b8mex (299)  Report abuse
Dick Turpin still visits the Boar's Head. Nowadays he doesn't wear a mask and works behind the bar!

Posted by: chestymcphee (1007) Report abuse
lots of pubs claim to be britain's oldest or 2nd oldest - they can't all be can they :-)

Posted by: rnicky74 (1295)   Report abuse
I went past the Colliers yesterday just over the bridge at New springs. That says 1700 over the door, i made a point of looking 'cos i was sure that was older.

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive) Report abuse
I love old pubs. Lots of character!

Posted by: ŠartŠ (6154) Report abuse
The "White Horse Hotel" (now Hartleys?), is reputed to be the oldest pub in Wigan.
once a coaching house.

Posted by: drumer (32) Report abuse
Some people will still remember the Powell children's library,I can't remember the name of the road it was in,but it was near to the horseshoe pub.

I'm sure there was some thatchers tools on show in the library which were found in the Thatched roof of the Boars' Head,when the thatching was replaced with a slate roof.
With all the money these brewries make today,I think it would be a good thing for the town if the owners put the thatching back again.
It wouldn't cost too much.
It would also help to stop anyone who gets a bright idea to pull it down and put some concrete up there!
Remember what the Philisttines did to the Comercial Yard.

When say it wouldn't cost the brewery too much, I know in Devon to save cost,today they thatch with Fibre Glass reeds!

Posted by: chestymcphee (1007) Report abuse
not in wigan but my favourite old pub is the eagle and child in bispham

Posted by: tigerlily2110 (306)  Report abuse
What about the John Bull in Coopers Row? if not on of the oldest pubs, it must be one of the oldest buildings. Years ago they found whattle and daub in the walls.

Posted by: drumer (32) Report abuse
The John Bull is one of the newest pubs in Wigan!
I left Wigan in the mid seventies and the John Bull wasn't there then.
I first came home for a visit in 1976 and went into the John Bull for the first time.
Also on that visit i saw the Wigan Buses had changed from red/white to cacky brown.
I knew then Wigan was on a downer.

Posted by: ŠartŠ (6154) Report abuse
The John Bull was a Slaughter House, before it was a pub

Posted by: bambam (1626)  Report abuse
your probably right art , i also think the john bull is the oldest pub in wigan,. bam bam.

Posted by: ianmcl (inactive) Report abuse
The John Bull was an oyster bar! It must have opened about 1973 when someone called Glyn (?) had it, then Harold b from Blutos took over.

In the area it must be the Boar's Head, in the town centre, architecturally the White Horse does appear to be the oldest - though the Pear Tree on Frog Lane was also a coaching Inn with yard and cottages.

incidently it seems that the Brick in Hallgate is about to re-appear from the ashes!

Posted by: jay_1 (14715)  Report abuse
The Man and Sythe is my favourite pub. I am due a visit.. that lovely Orange Cider.

How old is the Birth in'th hand in Hindley? I recall having a look around the old cellar one and they have an old well in the middle of it.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
mentioning old pubs what was the one in manchester city centre called and where did they move it to?

Posted by: jay_1 (14715)  Report abuse
Is this the one that was near the wheel?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
jay ,I am not sure, I am talking pre arndale centre early 70s.

Posted by: MarieM (4714) Report abuse
joseph, do you mean the Oyster Bar or the one next to it. I am sure one of them was moved.

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
Did it have a tree growing in the middle of it?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
MarieM I am sure it wasnt called the oyster bar,tonker I dont think so.

Posted by: tonker (18945)   Report abuse
That's Waxy O'Connors!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
it was I think a black timbered white walled pub ,like the colliers arms in new springs just over the canal bridge going to aspull.thanks anyway for helping.

Posted by: MarieM (4714) Report abuse
joseph, if you look on Google, Wikipedia, I think you will find it was the Old Wellington Inn in the Shambles Square.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
]MarieM ,thanks for that have a good weekend ,

Posted by: MarieM (4714) Report abuse
joseph, thank you. I think it is next to the Oyster Bar. The cheapest beer in Manchester.

But how the hell did they move it.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
British talented workers ,

Posted by: builderboy (1807) Report abuse
MarieM

Copied and pasted from Wikidedia

'The buildings were subsequently dismantled and moved 300 metres northwards to their present location, close to Manchester Cathedral in 1999.[8] The Old Wellington Inn and Sinclair's were rebuilt at 90 degrees to each other and joined together by a stone extension to form two sides of the new Shambles Square'.

As I understand it every element of the structure was given a unique reference and then each building was de-constructed, piece by piece.

Once moved the pieces were put back in the opposite order to which they were removed i.e. the last pieces to be taken down became the first pieces to go back.

As graney says - talented workers

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4562)   Report abuse
builderboy you answered that perfectly.

Posted by: MarieM (4714) Report abuse
builderboy What an undertaking. I have been passed there today and it amazes me how they did it. Thank you.

Posted by: elizabeth (5210)  Report abuse
om re reading this old piece a place came to mind wasn,t ther a pub up the Wiend or is memory playing tricks

Posted by: copperhead (1414)  Report abuse
Elizabeth

The Old Dog

 
 
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