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Monkey in Ince Cemetary

Started by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Why is a Monkey buried in Ince Cemetary?

Started: 8th Jul 2009 at 11:13

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Because it is dead.

Sorry gwim, but I'm sure you can understand the temptation.

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 11:47

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Damn youuuuu, (Said in a Sideshow bob kinda way).
Sideshow Bob

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 12:56

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Sorry gwim.

Wasn't it the pet of someone who lived in a house in the cemetary at Westwood? (not sure)

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 17:55

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

I dunno..Maybe it was a...a..a FRENCHMAN!..Sacre Bleu!

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 18:23

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Aye, called Angus no doubt.

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 18:26

Posted by: brian (838)

I can't remember why but its a true story, one of the first burials apparently. Will have to look it up.

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 22:31

Posted by: .b.t. (195)

Hi all

I beleive it was in Wigan Cemetery but the monkey was buried on the land BEFORE it was designated as a graveyard

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 22:47

Posted by: tonker (27933) 

It might be the monkey that was hung, on the coast of Hartlepool, because it was a French sailor?

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 22:59

Posted by: brian (838)

Wigan Cemetery, yes, thats right but its still in Ince, which in itself causes alot of confusion. It opened in 1856.

Replied: 8th Jul 2009 at 23:01

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Cheers for your input, each. I remember going into the cemetary, and on the left as you walk down, there was a building , then shortly after, a tree. The Monkey buried there or thereabouts, can't remember even if there was a marker for it. . Haven't been back for years but I may nip over to see if I can find it.

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 10:54
Last edited by the_gwim_weaper: 9th Jul 2009 at 14:23:48

Posted by: nicko (inactive)

what time frame?

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 12:52

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Mid 70's, Nicko. Just been up there on the bike, building is gone, tree is still there but no marker, and the grave diggers can't remember anything.

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 14:24

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Jays are like that with acorns.

Yed may be confusing stories here, but wasn't there some connection with some sailor who brought a monkey home as a pet? (Probably mixing two local stories there though )

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 14:48

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Dunno, what did he do with the pet's body when it died? Maybe, oh I dunno, buried it in ince cemetary....hhhhuuuu (Sudden intake of breath in an Uncle albert stylee) gasp
Bindun, but I love the gasp

Uncle alberts best bits

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 15:34
Last edited by the_gwim_weaper: 9th Jul 2009 at 15:36:31

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Just phoned a local character, Paul Sharples up. He confirms the Monkey buried and said I am right about the tree and the marker, but it is called Westwood cemetary, not ince/Wigan cemetary. He said he would show me the marker.(If it is still there), so I will take pictures.

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 16:34
Last edited by the_gwim_weaper: 9th Jul 2009 at 16:34:51

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

"Wasn't it the pet of someone who lived in a house in the cemetary at Westwood? (not sure)"

There may be a mention of it in one of G.Shryhane's books. He has frequently commented about local boneyards etc. in the Observer. (Particularly about the smashed glass headstone.)

Replied: 9th Jul 2009 at 19:10

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Good man that man. I didn't even see that post, Dostaf. As ever. you are sometimes right

Replied: 10th Jul 2009 at 08:58

Posted by: andycapp (2535)

Gwim was Paul Sharples dad in charge of The Crematorium part of Westwood Cemetery.

Replied: 10th Jul 2009 at 10:35

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Yes, Andy. The late Mr. Sharples was indeed that Man.

Replied: 10th Jul 2009 at 11:45

Posted by: andycapp (2535)

Thanks Gwim I knew Ken S very well I also know Paul now you have said Ken the crem as we used to call him when he drank in the Old Hall pub.Is Paul's dad. What a character Ken was.

Replied: 10th Jul 2009 at 17:14

Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive)

Indeed he was...Used to wake up at his house most Sat mornings after me & Spadge(Paul) got rather squiffy. Ken was a man I could listen to for Hours

Replied: 10th Jul 2009 at 17:19

Posted by: carol gr (910) 

The main was from Yorkshire - cut and pasted. but i am sure there are other monkeys
The monkey-hanging legend is the most famous story connected with Hartlepool. During the Napoleonic Wars a French ship was wrecked off the Hartlepool coast.

During the Napoleonic Wars there was a fear of a French invasion of Britain and much public concern about the possibility of French infiltrators and spies.

The fishermen of Hartlepool fearing an invasion kept a close watch on the French vessel as it struggled against the storm but when the vessel was severely battered and sunk they turned their attention to the wreckage washed ashore. Among the wreckage lay one wet and sorrowful looking survivor, the ship's pet monkey dressed to amuse in a military style uniform.

The fishermen apparently questioned the monkey and held a beach-based trial. Unfamiliar with what a Frenchman looked like they came to the conclusion that this monkey was a French spy and should be sentenced to death. The unfortunate creature was to die by hanging, with the mast of a fishing boat (a coble) providing a convenient gallows.

Replied: 25th Jul 2009 at 19:08

Posted by: marieg69 (3359)

there was a man on deal or no deal from hartlepool and he said they call them monkey hangers

Replied: 25th Jul 2009 at 22:08

Posted by: ericturner1 (139) 

That's correct, I used to deliver tin-plate scrap from Heinz to Hartlepool everyday for about 10 years and I often saw a lorry with the name "Monkey-hanger" painted under the windscreen, I scratched,"This is a WIGGIN WAGGIN" on the back of my truck. E.T.

Replied: 16th Aug 2009 at 16:41

Posted by: xrh59 (inactive)


Put this on a long time ago when Tonker brought the subject up.

Replied: 18th Aug 2009 at 00:33

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive)

Was it a Primate?

Replied: 21st Aug 2009 at 15:22

Posted by: kitekat (1498)

I always believed it to be a monkey from a visiting circus that had died and they buried it just inside the gates to the left of Westwood Cememtery. Puts a new dimenison on to Stephen King's "Pet Cemetery" doesn't it?

Replied: 23rd Aug 2009 at 16:27

 

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