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Nothing Goes Smoothly but this one
Started by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
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Posted by: tonker (19974)   Report abuse
JJ., seeing as you posted this at 1:26 pm, your opening greeting should have been 'good afternoon'!

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
thanks tonker

sometimes I don't even know what Day it is lol

jj

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Posted by: lisalee (12117)   Report abuse
I'm assuming that this is backing on to Arley JJ. I can't see why anyone would object to you growing organic veg.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I wonder what the reason is then? Lisa

Posted by: lisalee (12117)   Report abuse
I'd put money on the horse owners thinking that you are taking grazing from their horses. Because an acre is such a huge amount of land (taking p***). If that is the case then I want you to know that not all horse owners think like that!

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
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Posted by: lisalee (12117)   Report abuse
Most horse owners just see a blade of grass. Most I might add! I do see the mentality of these people on a daily basis. No reasoning.

Posted by: lanky11 (4088)   Report abuse
Good luck with it jj herbs are good for you

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Posted by: İartİ (6154) Report abuse
Try registering Here

Posted by: billy (26053)  Report abuse
one horse requires four acres of field.

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Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
Tunnels JJ
and spread the soil in special sacks in you trousers so the locals dont know what your up to

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Posted by: tonker (19974)   Report abuse
JJ, you could jump over the barbed wire fence on a motor-bike, Steve McQueen style ...........



...... It would have to be a Triumph, though, no Jap Crap!

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
its lucky those Germans had triumphs, always spotted that amazing gaff

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I like that tonker

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Posted by: billy (26053)  Report abuse
go fer it JJ
dont forget if ya works this bit o land for three years or more, then you can put a claim in as owner.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Thanks for your support Billy

I will make sure you get some of the First Fruits

JJ

Posted by: lanky11 (4088)   Report abuse
Gladto hearit is going great for youjj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Thanks Lanky 11



JJ

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Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
Try ellen JJ ,she posts on here and is an artist

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Thanks Nicko

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Plan's to increase the number of persons in the Herb project

Organic Jack needs to introduce places for two more hands on Key members of the group .

Do you think you could be an active influence in our future plans ?

JJ

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Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
Put some pics On JJ, I used to live up that way, would be interesting to see what your doing

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
ok nicko I will do an album later

JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Organic Jack now has 6 Gardeners chomping at the bit to get the project off the ground

the first get together meet is booked for tomorrow 22 september 09

Thanks all for reading this thread
JJ

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Posted by: reddi8 (1107) Report abuse
I am sure Nicko would have been a neighbour of yours until he went to Oz

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
christine

im a bit on the quiet side but i may know him by sight

jj

Posted by: organicjack (10) Report abuse

AKA JOHN JOSEPH

Things are moving slower than I would like,
the 12 / 30 mtre beds still need the large rotavator to do its work this weekend . ive been promised by wigan met that the tree line will be sorted very very soon, and I will then be able to used the larger diameter trunks as containers for the beds. with the branches shreaded for pathways around the beds (recycling,Regenerating)

I am most disapointed at the results of attempting to set up the Project by community involvement, there is too much explaining and Instruction required, then having again to repeat myself ,

I have now decided that this Project will be a PRIVATE BUSINESS set up, and will be run as such by my daughter with Myself (Organic Jack ) advising

It means of course we will change from "Not for Profit" to
Profit, hoping to keep our cost as low as posible

It goes without saying that we will always look after those in need within the community

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
who have been your objecters JJ?

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
There is no one objecting as such nicko

96% are in total agreement with the project and wish me every success there are just Four people that I know of that are not happy, I think mainly because they prefer the land to remain scrub land and un-cultivated

things can move on a pace now instead of using volunteers I will now use paid help to guarantee forward progress

thanks for your imput nicko

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Rain Rain Rain

Posted by: lisalee (12117)   Report abuse
I think you are doing a fantastic job JJ!

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
thanks lisa

The southern edge has now been cleared of dead wood giving more light and Sun (if we get any ) I thank the works dept wigan planning for their help in this part of the project

5 dry days will get the beds in shape ready for some planting work , with grass pathways looking tidy
,there is now aprox500 mtrs of beds times 2mtrs wide in phase"One" of my project

Im now looking for fruit tree's of the old British/English type along with fruiting bushes and then i will be setting up feeding stations for the birds by the treeline on the southern edge,
The western edge will have a 2mtr x170mtrs run for the local wild life ie: foxes, hedgehogs,and small animals with cover using wood piles and brush for hibernating types and nesting birds

thanks for your inspiration

Organic Jack aka JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Now I know what farmers feel about Rain

There will be lots of early problems with spring growth by late planting ' and it looks like a break for me at least a week watch out for supermarkets hiking up their prices

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
it will soon be spring



a very happy ORGANIC New Year to every one

Organic Jack aka JJ

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Glad you've posted again JJ, i was gettin' worried about you. Have you been keeping a photo diary of the project. I'm sure i'm not the only one who would like to see them.
Good luck with the weather

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
douglas

thanks for that mate

Im in the middle of oganising a picture "URL" I will put it on my profile as soon as pos


JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Douglas

If you click onto john joseph above

then homepage

a number of albums there ,click on the garden project some pics oh the progress of the recycled garden and the organic project click ( f11 ) for full screen slide show may take 30 sec to download

JJ

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Cheers JJ
I'll take a look now

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Just had a look JJ and i'm green with envy.
I suppose the cold will help with breaking up the clods and make the bed preparation a bit easier.
Keep posting update photo's
Oh and have a great New Year.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
douglas

thanks very much Ihope you have a great time up there in carnforth

all the best 2010
jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
2010

update

I aquired some organic compost half price from a local garden centre along with 4 apple trees ( three more required for phase one , a dozen or so fruit bushes under protection until planting time now waiting for the big thaw

Ive been on the lookout for 400 mtres of nine inch diamtre tree logs to be used as soil re-tainers in the beds. the ideal logs should be straight and a minimum of two metres long

the birds and wild life are now visiting regular. the fox and hosts of birds including pheasants always visiting the table , I have now decided to build two more feeding stations along the south fence this is tree lined so safe for them and a great position for me to photograph from the hide

I cant wait

JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
this spring
not long to go now you lucky wiganers

Organic Jack will have his field full of fresh Organic, Vegetables , salad ,plus ,many differing Herbs, fruit trees and bushes, specials in organic garlic, (Asparagus Peas),pots, beans raspberries and other berries

A new concept in gardening give jj your seed and he will grow it for you organically no pesticides just good food for you to pick or tend yourself if you like

Phase One will be ready in time for planting this spring

for an updat or more info

jborganicjack@googlemail.com



JJ

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Best thread on WW
A proper community involvment project.
Fantastic JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Jekka's Herb Farm
Rose Cottage
Shellards Lane
Alveston
Bristol
BS35 3SY

tel : 01454 418878 or 0845 2903255

email: sales@jekkasherbfarm.com


the above address will be my main source of organic herbs for the whole project I am sitting down with their catalogue this week


NB I rate it as the very best in the uk for herb expertize down load and look for youself

JJ

I dont mind a bit of Wigan competition lol

JJ

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Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
fruit trees

17 mixed apple and pear trees planted last week and today at the north and south perimeters of phase one, its looking like a great little orchard 3/4year olds Ive just done a crash I.T pruning course and this weekend should see the completion of 12 beds, 30 mtrs by 2metres with one metre grass paths running between them( north to south )next week end sees me hire a routivator/tiller to get the beds ready in tip top condition for planting not be long now february is a short quick month
when the temprature lifts a bit it will be time for fruit canes and early potatos plus onions and garlic

im already feeling great

jj

Posted by: davey (242)  Report abuse
Im feeling like i've been run over, been clearing brambles and reducing a hedge. This is week three, nearly there though. Its good to at least see some progress at last. Hope to be able to keep on top of the whole lot this year.

Posted by: mickey (73) Report abuse
Well done JJ.

Posted by: elizabeth (5439)  Report abuse
Good for you J J Have you tried the railway sidings see if they have any sleepers they dont want , they are used a lot down here for making boundary's for bedding plants etc or am I on the wrong track

Posted by: dave marsh (inactive) Report abuse
Jersey must be similar to the UK. in that The National Trust own oodles of acres far to much for them to manage.Any suggestion that they should allow allotments on suitable areas appears to be ignored.Did you see the report from Todmorden on TV this morning j.j.,where the council co-operate with a group of locals ,providing areas to plant veg. and fruit trees that can be harvested by anyone.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
davy

the joy is in the result good luck mate
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Thanks mickey

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Elizabeth

the sleepers are like telegraph poles and are usualy treated with chemical,s oil and tar this would be a negative regarding my Organic registration test

thanks for the thought Elizabeth
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Dave

I didnt hear about Todmorden and their project but Im all in favour why keep planting sycamore and fast growing silver birch, plant fuit trees so everyone can at least get a free apple or plum and it will stop those greedy supermarkets selling the crap fruit we get off them

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jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I lost it a bit today after hiring a cultivator yesterday not realizing that the hire shop gave us a rotarvater by mistake ,that a gardener was using it to cultivate the bed,s it only had the result of wrecking the well laid out paths as you gardeners know, I tried to attract his attention but to no avail , now he is only 60 metres away and Youve guessed it THE GATE bars my path I now have to get my car and drive the 150 metres onto the road and through the to the top gates at the to ask him to cut the engine

but on the way I meet the chairman of the commitee and I couldnt carry on without venting my rant on the poor man I know that he is legally within his rights but morally ???? im sorry to upset his wife cos she is very ill and a nice lady

Ive got to chill out




JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
im still trying to find an electrician to run a cable and the proper outdoor tackle up to the small garden I need it underground a run of aprox 70mtres all heavy digging labour suplied, give me a good quote and start anytime must be qualified leccy
jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Spring is here but dont rush to plant your tender spring flowers wait until end of march Easter weekend is a good time to start planting the little frail things

however set your early potatoes to sprit in the shed along with main crop put earlies in the ground easter then main crop 3 weeks later

onions need a bit of frost to kick off so now is the time and good time now for fruit bushes ect

As I mentioned earlier it was too wet for the final cultivation of phase one beds so im giving it another go this weekend followed by planting onion sets in 2 beds and garlic for next years seed

Im also spending time now on tittyvating the small raised bed garden, bulbs are now showing well, crowned by the Witch hazel in bloom with its lovely yellow flowers

have a nice day Wigganers

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
JJ, I bought a petrol strimmer a while ago to clear some land at the back of my house. I won't be needing it again and would be happy for you to have it if it would be of any use. let me know if it's summat you could use.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Douglas

Thanks mate its just what I need and is on my shopping list

It would be a most grateful gift from you it would also put you right on top of the list for your organic requirements FREE
during the season

send your contact details to my site
jborganicjack@googlemail.com its time I had a trip up to carnforth

thanks m8

II

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
JJ did you get my email?

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
douglas not got it m8

check

jborganic@googlemail.com


jj

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
JJ got your email

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
ok douglas

i will delete rivercottage

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
What a couple of good days AT Last

all fourteen (30 metres by 2 metre beds) have been cutivated to a very high standard and are now just waiting until the Easter break to put into the ground
Potatoe
one 30 meter row of Arran Pilot First early
" " Rocket Scotish " "
followed in 3 weeks by main crop
potatoes Maris Piper ,King Edwards , Kers Pinks
Plus two rows of mixed pot.s to see what turns out

Onions300 Setton onions
onions 300 Red baron

90 Red Sun shallots all going in end of March

20 soft fruit bushes now ready to for planting

and now I will concentrate on perenial Herbs


at last this week I am expecting delivery 200 2mtre by aprox 9inch dia logs to be used as soil retainers on sloping ground I STILL NEED MORE LOGS

time to get stuck in

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I want to tell you all about the Service given to me by

SPEEDY of Wallgate Wigan

www.speedyhire.com

after the initial problem of me asking for the wrong machine I explained to them with pics/drawings what I was trying to do

I was recomended exactley the right machine, super kit delivered, and so polite I will recomend them to all now that spring in here , cost a nice surprise and within budget I will use them for Phase TWO and say thank you for your service

JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Good luck with your project JJ, wish I was there to help, I love Gardening.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Fred

You would be more than welcome, as would any lover of gardens would be
now IS the time to be here I will put an update on my homepage and if you visit wigan let me know and for anyone else bring your Hoe

JJ

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
Wacker Plate

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Town

Im sorry m8 I thought you were having a joke lol

they call them compaction plates £8--50p ist day £-40p extra day have a chat with craig

not for me though make a right mash of my spuds

JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Town

If you rent one just say Organic Jack recomended you you may get a good discount

Click on John Joseph above and see pic of some finished beds . look how good the cultivation is using their gear.

logs arrived will be getting those in place over the weekend

take care jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Great M8

Looks like Im copying you

Just a few more thats all, as you know most of those will feed the oldies and folks in need

although I may make a couple of quid with the special Organic herbs, keep it going we may meet one day

you can show me yours and i will show you mine lol In a gardening sort of way lol

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
yes im waiting for it to show there is a patch in mere oaks hopefully i will get some then grow my own

jj

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
JJ, I'll bring my video up and do some footage of the plot as it develops over the season

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
town

they will deliver for £5

JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
douglas

you will always be welcome

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Douglas

It was great to see you today , thank you for all your positive comments about my project
It was a brill gesture of yours to call here and present your gift of the Petrol Strimmer it is a much apreciated and needed tool and I look forward to your visit later in the year when I can really thank you with my gift of the best of Organic Jacks Produce

Thanks m8

jj


good news a bit of petrol and your strimmer burst into life thanks again

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
not sure town

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse

thank you for those interested in my project


Sowing programme for the next two weeks(ist two weeks June)

All products are certified Organic

Runner bean Enorma Elite
Runner bean ScEmperor
Runner bean White Emergo
Pea KarinPea Cavalier
Beetroot cylindra , Red Ace, Detroit globe
Beet Egyptian
l,eaf beet golden sunrise
Leaf beet rainbow chard
Leaf beet swiss Chard
Brussels sprouts Nautic
Carrot Kuttiger
Carrot Elegance
Courgette Defender
Courgette nero di Milan
Florence Fennel Finale
Fennel Romanesco
Leak Monstrouso
Parsley Moss curled
Parsley plain French
ParsleyItalian Giant
Rocket
Turnip Golden Ball

The Beds are almost ready for this selection and the weather temp should be good for sowing by next week

A further selection of differing herbs will be added as space becomes known
Four beds of various earlies and main crop potatoes are doing well the area planted is 14 rows x 30 metres a whole bed is doing well with shallotts onions and garlic

Many fruit trees had a good blossom and fruit bushes are looking great A full bed 30x2mtres have been given over to Cumfrey Produce for future composting

Its not been an easy task from the start of my project but now is the NICE Times If you feel like a visit and would like to grow one of your favourites herbs or veg remember it must be certified organic
You will be most welcome


JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
town
ok m8


jj

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town

phone number sent to your email

I look forward to seeing you

JJ

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Hi JJ,
I've got just one question for you
Were you wearing gloves
It's such a shame that the fence is there but hey ho, I'm sure your shoulders are broad enough to cope with a bit o' barbed wire.
I was clearing some old stuff from one of the cellars yesterday and came across an almost full roll of strimmer line. I'll drop it off for you next time i'm in the area.
Looking forward to seeing the plot, and you again.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
thanks town

glad you like the project ,it was great putting a face to your name and you are more than welcome to call anytime bring the your misses she can plant a couple of her fav herbs

try to get your dad here it will do him good



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douglas

answer _no gloves lol silly old me I will sort it soon

at least im covered for tetinus next time give me a call and i will open the farm gates and you can drive in


take care all

jj

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Organic Jack
Where is your garden? I was given directions by Dougie and Aitch last Thursday at the Bellingham, but I am damned if I could find it when I had a drive round the area, would love to see your project before I return to Australia.
Fred

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
fred head off to Standish from Wigan turn left at the Boars head pub down Chorey road take the first right into Red Rock Lane and first left into Mayflower Cottages , Park up in the 1st bay and his plot is at the back of the houses, Im going to make you Balm cakes tomorrow fredhope you are enjoying your trip

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Thanks for that information nicko, I hope you enjoy the Barm Cakes, don't forget bake them in the lower half of the oven.
Yes I am enjoying my trip apart the football match I am watching. 4-1 at the moment.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Hi Fred When do you return to Australia,
I can pick you up before you go, and give you a guided tour of the project work in progress and maybe get a couple of tips from you

its ok to bring a friend


JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi, JJ
I return to Australia on the 27th July. After following this thread from the start, I doubt you will need any tips from me, I am more into flower growing than veggies, but thanks for the comment.
Also thanks for the offer to pick me up, but I am ok for transport, I will however take you up on the guided tour offer, I will try to visit you one day this week, looking forward to it.
Fred

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi townofmemories, I am sure it will be.
Cheers

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse

not the prettiest fred but tasted lovely,Kids started wolfing them down had to hide them

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Hi Fred

Try M.O.B (Organic Jack)



JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi Nicko, great picture, just like I remember them when my Mum made them every Sunday.

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
made a bit of a yolk for myself fred, thanks to you and your mum they are demanding them on a regular basis

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
You know that you love it Nicko.l

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
What a good day I have had!!! first I spent well over an hour with John Joseph in his "Organic Garden" a really worthwhile project, if you haven't been to see it you are missing out on enjoyable experience.
Thanks John.

Then I met up with Copperhead (Keith Guest) where he gave me a keepsake in the form of Church Lads Brigade officers drill cane with the C.L.B. Badge on, something I will treasure, as I lost the one I had years ago.
Thanks Keith

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
I visited JJ again yesterday to give him some photos I took the other day, he presented me with a souvenir of my visit, in the shape of a weavers shuttle, with a thermometer inserted where the bobbin goes, as I am an ex weaver this is a great souvenir for me. thanks John.

Also yesterday I tasted some of Johns produce, in the shape of some potatoes and onions, the first produced from his garden, Lovley



This visit home has been the best ever, I have met some great members of Wigan World, to me this is what WW is all about, making new friends, and enjoying their company when you get the chance.
I hope to have the pleasure of meeting some more on the 12th July, in the Bowling Green Hotel, Wigan Lane, 7.30 pm.
Cheers.

Posted by: aitch (5487)   Report abuse
Im glad you found JJs place then fred, was it where I said it was. ???

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
More Spuds




Hope you enjoy these Pics
Fred

Posted by: nicko (inactive) Report abuse
Nice one JJ, Does a bloke called Leo still live up that Way, he used to be a gardener of some sort

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi Aitch, yes no trouble, Thanks.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
yes nicko

Just a few doors away. gardening is his livelyhood and a knowlegable chap if i may say so

Fred you are an Inspiration thanks for those brill pics you have a great camera eye making me and my veg look soooo gooood n tasty I will get down to the pub to see you before you go back to that far away beach

take care m8

JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
JJ.
Fred

Posted by: davey (242)  Report abuse
Just taken up some of my spuds and had them for tea, cant believe how good they tasted. Worth all the effort of removing the brambles that were there.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse


Davey

Tis good ground up theer in Preston lad, some fantastic allotments on the side of the River Ribble nowt better than Salmom and new spuds

JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I just got the biggest insult I ever had in my


duplicated sorry

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Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
no mayflower cottages haigh

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
To all wigan world I would like to have a barbi I have the garden and the organic plot almost finished I need a party to buck me up and an organizerto make it happen
Ive got a bit of cash for booze n things but not the energy lets av a do

come on help please

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Who am I kidding Ive just had a gass of wine

I dont care a hoots about the insult those type of peeps are not on the same planet

JJ

Posted by: explorations (468) Report abuse
Brilliant work John, seems all is well!

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
JJ, I've tasted your organic produce, it was great, if anyone refuses your food, it's their loss, pick yourself up, dust yourself down and sod um. I will try to call and see you before I return to Aussie, try and make it to the Bowling Green, Monday 7.30pm.
Fred

Posted by: lesley (502) Report abuse
JJ - well done with your Organic Garden - love the pictures that Fred (Dad) took. It sounds like a lot of work but you have done really well.

Fred - finally found the thread and had a look at your photos - they came out really good. Love the Thermometer in the Shuttle.

Posted by: brenda m (790)  Report abuse
Keep on digging JJ! There's nothing like eating your own produce. I have 50 lbs of my own organic strawberries in the freezer and almost as many raspberries. Though my spuds aren't nearly as lush as yours! I can "lose" myself in my garden! Love it!

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse


Townme too

just had a cloud burst so Im off to see if my "Soil Retention system "worked or has everyrhing moved to the bottom of the field

Posted by: micky east (inactive) Report abuse
brenda m 50lb of strawberries ow bigs your garden

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Thanks Lesley

I hope your good and healthy in Oz

Your dad Fred never stops talking about, he is as proud as punch telling everyone in the Pub about you, and we all find your dad a great guy, and well pleased that he spent his time to visit and add his enthusiastic to the organic project



jj

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Hi Brenda

welcome to wigan world

if you and your family come home for a visit let me know you will be made very welcome and tell us all how do you freeze 50 lb s of strawberries without them going to mush when you de-frost them

jj

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town

everything spot on retention logs keeping all the soil in place no dammage to any plants im well pleased

almost tea time I couldnt resist dug up 2 plants of victoria main crop spuds, 2 bunches of shallots, (never seen them so big afore a nice half inch thick rib-eye steak some tesco organic mushrooms

great

jj

Posted by: brenda m (790)  Report abuse
Micky - we have an acre altogether, but not all in produce. I have two veggie gardens and behind that two 50' rows of raspberries, one of blackcurrants, and four of strawberries. I got the 50 lbs from those 4 row. Also have asparagus, rhubarb, cherries, pears, nectarines, plums and hardy kiwis, which are little tiny things and you eat the skin as well. Really sweet.

JJ - thanks for the invite but don't know when we'll be back in the UK. As for freezing strawberries, they do go to mush, but since hubby only use them for wine, that's OK. It takes 35 lbs for 5 gallons of wine. (Hic!)

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi, Brenda m, I hope you are washing Barm Cakes down with the home made wine.
Hope to see you before I return to Australia JJ.
Fred

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
ok fred

if you dont make it take care and
have a safe jurney home my regards to everyone

JJ

aka " Organic Jack"

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi John, called round to see you yesterday ,you was out, left a note behind your front door.
Well John as Morcambe and Wise used to say "it's goodby to him and goodby to you"
It has been a privilege to meet you, and I wsh you every success with your Organic project in the future.

Keep in touch,
Fred.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I got your note Fred
thanks m8 you take care of yourself see you on your next trip over

God bless you and your family

JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Cheers JJ

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All the best fred,back in Oz now?Take care and look after thissen

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Thanks upthetims?
Nice to have met you.
Fred

Posted by: dougie (3718)  Report abuse
Eat your heart out Mr S nothing fancy about my tomatoes was growing them outside but had to bring them under cover because of the heavy rain if you look you can see the damage at the bottom ,but they are still home grown been eating the odd one for the last three week
From green thumb Dougie

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
nice one dougie a good heavy crop seeing you nead to tie in supports enjoy m8 and if you are passing call in and sample my spuds etc



jj

mr. S

Posted by: dougie (3718)  Report abuse
Thanks for the invite and will call in on you sometime, I also put some potatoes in three tube set at different times so been getting them too

Posted by: dougie (3718)  Report abuse
Mr S delete this post so as not to take your room up as you,ve seen them, was talking about you in the club on Sunday night it came up again about the tree

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Believe me Dougie it will be well worth your time to visit JJ and his garden. I did and really enjoyed spending my time doing so.
Nice pictures.

PS I don't look a bit like my brother
Fred

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Hi John, hope you are keeping well, your shuttle has pride of place in my home, I just bought another ten rose bushes, I fed all of them with sugar yesterday
Cheers Fred

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
ok fred still got the rain I took delivery of another load of retaining logs not many more needed now

take care m8 dont eat all the sugar

JJ

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hi Town

I put the BBQ on hold mainly cos of the really poor weather we have had it did knock me back, as far as most of the time we were looking at a bog I will look into it again if there is a chance of an Indian summer
as you know this is the Ist year season of the organic project

^ ten 30 metre rows of potatoes one row took a hit with slug problems others rows doing brill with heavy cropping the main manure was home grown cumfrey method used was 6 inch deep trench lined with comfrey leaves and cover with soil a scatering of chicken pellets trenches 2feet wide potatoes set at 15 inches apart , cover and draw soil as growth required

apples/ pears good quantity for ist season, othe produce about a month behind due to weather and late sowing

just one more 30 mtre bed to receive the logs as soil retainers

superb help from morris construction for logs from the river douglas flood project donated to the organic jacks project for soil retainer logs thank you Alf and his team,

a simmilar grand gesture from Toby Cornthwaite of Cornthwaite Tree Care ltd based in chorley he sorted out the rest of my requirments we pick up the final load next week thank you Toby

for those who may need a national diploma Arboriculture specialist then Toby and his team are the right one,s to contact ring 01257231590 winter fuel logs are also available

Town thanks for your support and Interest

jj

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Harvest time for potatoes

organicaly grown (waiting for registration)

no chemicals used ,very good crop in fact Im not sure if I can cope getting them into sacks for storage also good crop of onions and the herb section is getting well established for transplant next year.
I,m going to need some kind of help on this one next week I need a couple of dry days and plenty energy

JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Hi JJ, did anybody turn up to help with the potato picking? I wish I could have been there.
Cheers Fred

Posted by: brenda m (790)  Report abuse
Dug mine up yesterday - a few wierd shapes, but good for the most part. Filled a laundry basket full - stored in the barn - will keep us going for most of the winter. Zucchini are coming along nicely - will make marmalade, and veggie patties with those. Beets to pickle, beans, carrots and nectarines to can - nice crop this year. After that, apples to make into pie filling and butternut squash to freeze, and THEN I can have a rest!!

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
Come on Brenda m
You enjoy it.
You would be bored if you didn't keep busy.
Best wishes Fred

Posted by: brenda m (790)  Report abuse
You're right, Fred, though it's hard keeping up with it when I'm still working full time, and now I have a grandson to play with too! Hubby helps but he's a "mechanical gardener" - if it doesn't have an engine he's not interested! So I'm the weeder, pruner, planter, harvester and processor all rolled into one!

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
THANK YOU ,THANK YOU, SPUD PICKERS

Brill effort Brian and his wigan world Team had a great time on Sunday in the herb Project Super day Sunshine all day the beer was flowing , coffee for those who were too young ,
Ninteen Large potato sacks ready for sorting from a good crop I hope you all enjoyed your bags of spuds /onions and other goodies when you got home

Im sorry for the ones suffering Bad Backs

The atmosphere in the fields was buzzing and reminded me of the old days ,del girl even brought her daughter and baby so a proper old fashioned summer activity of good memories

Thanks again Brian and all who helped Im Made up

JJ

Posted by: fred rosbottom (1930)   Report abuse
JJ. Pleased to hear everything went well with the harvesting of your goodies, I know that they will all taste delicious as I was privelidged to have tasted some of the first crop when I was over there in June/July, best wishes for the future of your project.
Cheers Fred.

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
Thanks Fred

Take care m8


JJ

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
spud digging this weekend see general thread

jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
repeat from general message board free spuds no pesticides used
good eaters

This week will be a good time for weather Three one hundred foot beds need turning over, before I plough them all back into the soil If you cant get here give me a call I may be able to pick you up and lend you a garden fork it would be a shame to waste them all, take home what you need

**bonus** I bet you have never picked Fresh garden Peas in autumn before well now is your chance a late sowing experiment results in brill crop just one bed left

All Beds are to be prepared during October for *ORGANIC HERBS ONLY *for the future

contact JJ, let me know if you are coming jborganicjack@googlemail.com

mobile 07732 098 770

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jj

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
the update of organic jack


mow its 2011 third year of project some exciting stuff coming up dont miss out learn how to grow your own good food

jj

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new season starts next week when the rain stops

Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
winter is over new thread to take you through 20011

good times for everyone

cheers and regards
JJ

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Posted by: john joseph (3197)  Report abuse
I thought I would look back at the past couple of years on this thread of the ups and downs of my organic gardening
project

I can spot a few mistakes on the way lol

some good laughs and a few get together evenings its also refreshing reading coments from ww members again

jj

 
 
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