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Poolstock 1952 to 1972
Started by: gasmon (13) Report abuse
I was born in Poolstock in 1952, moving to Worsley Mesnes in 1972 due to the "slum clearances" of that time. Any Islanders (Poolstockers) on here remember that era ?, now a distant fading memory.

Gas

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Sure do, i lived on pool st from 1959 to 1970.We used to have a massive bommy on the patch next to the dogtrack.

Posted by: MarieM (4765) Report abuse
gasmon Why have you only had 2 posts since you joined in 2008. Good to hear from you.

Posted by: gasmon (13) Report abuse
MM - More of a reader than a writer !!

I remember the dogtrack bommy - Our bommy was at the end of Corporation St behind the Westwood Park Hotel - often raided by the Apaches (Chapel Laner's I think) and you lot from behind the Honeysuckle - or where you the Apaches ? can't remember!!!!

Pool Street - do you remember Bulloughs Chippy ?.

Gas

Posted by: MarieM (4765) Report abuse
gasmon My grandma and grandad got married in St James Church 106 years ago. I think about them every time I go past the Church.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Yea remember Bulloughs it was a few doors down from where i lived.Mrs Taylors chippy across the road was better.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
When i lived in Corporation St. we used to store our bonfire wood over the river on the Westwoods bowling green safe from the raiders

Posted by: susie q (1674)  Report abuse
I was born in 1947 in Morton Ave just a stones throw from Poolstock. I used to go to St James dance (in the school hall every Friday) it was the highlight of the week ah ah.In 1968 I was married at St James and my husband came from Chadwick Street.When I was expecting my first baby my fancy was a fish from Bulloughs chippy but chips from Taylors which drove my then husband crazy ah ah.Poolstock was such a lovely place to have been part of and my memories will stay with me forever

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
I used to think Poolstock was the name of a road in Wigan. Imagine my surprise when I found out that it is!

Posted by: susie q (1674)  Report abuse
Poolstock Lane is the name that takes you from Wigan Town Centre to the Motorway etc. When I was growing up in Poolstock it was more like a village and motorways were non existant.The lane came to an end at Maurus Bridge. Does any one else remember this?

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
No it's not!

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Your right Susie it was a great place to live,good people and a great community to live in.Anyone who lived in any of those steets always did and still do refer to themselves as poolstockers.

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
No. She's wrong!

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Who's bothered ! Susie was talking about what we refer to as Poolstock as a general area and the people who lived there.I know that Poolstock starts where Chapel lane ends and runs to roughly Grange ave.wowee.I have lived in that area for over 50yrs, When i lived in Pool St in the 60's and 70's our address always read Pool St,Poolstock,Wigan.If its good enough for the Royal Mail its good enough for me.

Posted by: gasmon (13) Report abuse
Correct - Poolstock (no Lane or 'owt) runs from the end of Chapel Lane (River Douglas bridge (old one)) to the brook bridge just past the car showroom. Poolstock Lane starts there. I was born in Poolstock, lived there for 20 odd years, so should know. Our address was xx Poolstock, Wigan, Lancashire. No daft postcodes back then.

Good to see the Honeysuckle is still open - I did my apprentice boozing there - anyone remember the Landlord - Joe Mather if I remember. "Give us a rat owt o't trap Joe" was an order for a meat pie !!!

We had a Byrom street & a Byron street - still can't remember which was which. Best chippy was Yvonne's, near the old Labour club.

Gas

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Gasmon,Byrom St was behind Pool St then Chadwick St,Byron St was on the other side towards Thompsons cash and carry.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Best Chippy was Mrs Tinsdales in Coronation Street.

Posted by: knitcraftgreen (inactive) Report abuse
My dad was born in tipping st opposite St James,s church and one of my aunties lived in Chadwick st, grandma & grandad kept cricket club their name was Draper

Posted by: Weatherwax (301) Report abuse
I am not from Poolstock but my ex Husbands parents had the labour Club for quite a few years, in fact I think that my ex Father in law died in the club a few years after I was divorced.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Weatherwax Old or New labour club?

Posted by: Weatherwax (301) Report abuse
Not sure, as I said I'm not from Poolstock, but if you Walked towards the bridge to go into town there was a lumber yard on the left at the side of the river Dougie,the club was on the same side,a bit nearer to Poolstock

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
You can't get any nearer to Poolstock than being on it, and both the old and the new Labour Clubs were on it!

Posted by: Weatherwax (301) Report abuse
Thanks for that tonker, very helpfullWhat was helpfull is the fact that there is a photo of what I think is it on the Album, under Poolstock. At least with the way my memory is now it looks very, very familiar

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
Did THIS used to be one?

Posted by: Weatherwax (301) Report abuse
No, that's not it. The one I mean can be reached through Wigan Street list, go to Poolstock and there are five photos, the third one down shows a building on one side of the road which has a sign (Nido) on it, on the other side of the road, the left, is what I think is the Club

Posted by: dodger (3414) Report abuse
If I remember rightly, the old Poolstock labour club became Wigan welding works when the new club was built across the road.

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
Was it a REAL welding works?

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
Weatherwax the 3rd picture is one of what was the new labour club. The 4th & 5th pictures are of the old labour club facing the top of Corporation St.

Posted by: Weatherwax (301) Report abuse
Thanks so much smiling assassin, after all that I can now say ITS THE NEW LABOUR CLUB in reply to cindy's question. If I had said about 1972 onwards I might have answered it before now, dooooh !!

Posted by: gasmon (13) Report abuse
Tonkers picture is correct, the old Labour Club. Building is still there, for sale but vandalised. The "new" labour club is now a swank Chinese restaraunt, though it seems virtually empty most nights. Called in once for a lunch - decent food. Quite nice inside it is too.

The Wigan Welding Works was (is) opposite the New labour club / Chinese restaraunt. Still there, it was an oriental furniture dealer till a while ago, though is now closed / boarded up.

I forgot about the Chippy in Coronation street, bit out of the way for us "main road" Poolstockers, Yvonnes for us !!.

I see the Cricket field has gone, new houses being built - Anyone remember the Cricket Club ?, it was a freindly little club back in the 70's - went there often.

Gas

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Thanks for the photo Tonker, gasmon You are right about the Old Liarbour club, & of course Brian & Yvonns Chippy was next door to it.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
cindy did you ever find out why the old labour club was never pulled down.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
smiling assassin No, I don't thinks its listed? Maybe it was Political Having a Liarbour council & some members were councillors.

Posted by: wigan 3 (15) Report abuse
My mum grew up in Poolstock, lived on Pool st, I think.She was married in St James church, maiden name was Hodkinson, if anyone remembers. I was born in Billinge hospital and grew up on Carr Lane, in Hawkley Hall, or Worsely Mesnes as was are mailing address. Very proud to call myself a Wiganer.

Posted by: cordyline (4144)   Report abuse
Perhaps it wasn't pulled down because it would have cost the council too much in compensation - being commercial premises

I was told that the owner of the property lives in Canada

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
wigan3
what was your mum's christian name

Posted by: wigan 3 (15) Report abuse
smiling assassin, my moms name was Rebecca Ann Hodkinson.

Posted by: johnlythg (inactive) Report abuse
Did a chap name of Seddon own the dog stadium in the 60's

Posted by: aspey (168) Report abuse
my parents had the post office until it was demolished ,Bill and Dorothy Lowe .

Posted by: leyland (27)   Report abuse
My mum&dad's first house was in Corporation st, they moved to Worsley Mesnes when the houses were condemed. I was born just before in 1971. My mum worked in Yvonne and Dereks chippy later when we lived on Worsley Mesnes, before that she worked behind the bar at the new Labour Club, there's a photo of the staff in my pics. Later on I worked in the club taking glasses off, my first job.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Chris I can only recognize George & Mary Vernon, The Lady behind the Worthington beer pump looks familiar though.

Posted by: MickB (11) Report abuse
Regarding the location of Poolstock, you are all correct. On some old maps (can be found on Google Images), the area to the south-west of the town is shown as 'Poolstock', so as well as being a street name, it is also a district. Pre-postcode days, my address was 'Fourteen Meadows Road, Poolstock, Wigan'. As for the old shops, I remember these:
De Roma's - Swan Meadow Road
Mrs Tyldesley's chippy, later taken over by Gerry & Norah Barton, on Coronation St.
Mr Holland's grocer - corner of Swan Meadow Rd/Corporation St.
Cobblers (it's true) on Park Street, near Honeysuckle.
Co-op store, Witheringtons hardware store, off-licence, Whelan's self-service, chemist, Fred Rowe's bookies, Bulloughs and Taylors chippies, and a newsagents, all on Pool St.
Then there was a litle sweetshop, Post Office, and Jimmy Berry's barbers (put stuff on your hair that smelled like catpee), all on Corporation St.
As the song says, 'I found a picture of you - those were the happiest days of my life'.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
I remember all those shops Mick as i lived on Pool St,Lyons had the off lcence and dont forget there were 2 butchers Crofts and Ben Turners.I went to Poolstock Junior schhool from 64 to 70,taught by mrs disley,mrs slevin,mrs elliot,mrs parkinson,mr smith,but my favorite was mrs edith fairhurst .A lovely woman she used to play the piano when we sang she also taught my mother in the 1940's.Lovely memories.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
My ex was born in Poolstock, Ronnie Beckett, there was a big family of them x

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
Was you related to Wayne Beckett?

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
Tonker did Wayne Beckett live in Hindley ?

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
Joan

Was your ex from the Brook Street family.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
Gaffer, I am not sure my ex was named Ronnie but his dad was Stan Beckett, there were quite a few of them Stan, George, Cyril to name but a few, Stan my father-in-law had a very large purple birth mark down one side of his face, The moved from Poolstock to Walpole Ave, just off St, Pauls Ave, in Worsley Mesnes. Some how Brook St does seem to ring a bell,

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
J.B.W. - I think Wayne did live in the Ince / Hindley area. Last I heard, he'd gone in the Merchant Navy.

Posted by: momac (8305)  Report abuse
Does anyone remembers the McGoverns from St Paul's Avenue,am only curious..my best friends parents lived there.

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
Joan

I remember Stanley. He was a wagon driver and lived next door to my grandfather in Brook Street. Stanley's father and my grandfather were brothers.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
I have just relayed your message to my brother in law Ian Beckett, he has just moved back to the poolstock area in some bungalows he reckong he is about 50 yds from were he was born. I have told him about the WW website and I said that he would enjoy it very much as it is very interesting.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
Hi Gaffer, I have been chatting to Ian Beckett, and yes they were from Brook St. He asked was your name David and was your Granddad names Tommy.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
Was an Alfred Beckett at school in the early 1950's any relation

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
Can anyone remember the name of the young lad who fell in the canal and drowned near the drawbridge at the bottom of westwood lane around 1955

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
Joan

My grandfather was Ted. Alfred is a cousin, his grandfather Harry was my grandfathers brother.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
Smiling Does Alf Beckett live in the Goose Green/Marus Bridge area.

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
Yes.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
Only know that as a lad he used to live in the Swan Meadow Rd.area when we were at St.James school.Mind you that is nearly 60 years ago.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
Have remembered the name of the young lad who drowned in canal must have been thinking about it as i went to bed last night and when i awoke knew who he was.

Posted by: cordyline (4144)   Report abuse
Smiling

Did that lad live in Corporation St ?

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
SA

Alfred lived opposite to De Romas in the first house.

Posted by: smiling assassin (172) Report abuse
gaffer

no he came out of Chadwick St.

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
Alf used to live near me at Marus Bridge, I think they were 2 different Beckett families distant relatives.

Posted by: watchalot (923) Report abuse
my wife was born at no 1 byrom st her maiden name was Derbyshire in 1945 till 1965

Posted by: david farnworth (68) Report abuse
Anyone remember Sid 'papa' Markland and the Redfern family? Wolmer Street!

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Remember Lilian Redfern and her sons John and Albert from Walmer St and i think Dick Stead lived there as well.

Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
dick stead has died recently,he lived in mervyn place ? off howden drive for years,dont know wether thats classed as hawkley hall or worsley mesnes.his wife doreen worked at clifton mills .

Posted by: david farnworth (68) Report abuse
Lilian died last year. Albert lives in Standish and John lives in Coppull now. My cousins.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Knew dick and lilian very well,worked with him down the pit and was in the same class as his daughter Julie.Lilian lived on Cornwallis Rd at the top of our close when she later married Stan Fisher.

Posted by: david farnworth (68) Report abuse
Yes she did live in Cornwallis Road. She moved to Standish to be near Albert in her later years. Still a rum lady though!!

Posted by: robjon (25) Report abuse
my father's side of the family came from poolstock they lived in pool st & poolstock where the new houses have been built facing the garage my family's names were lilian young & clifford barker my mum & dad were married in poolstock church in 1948 & me & my late husband dave were married there in 1969.

Posted by: spudmagoo (1142) Report abuse
I was born in Byrom st in 1953. I used to mess around with the bommy on the little field and I used to play over on the seccy. Great times!

Posted by: spudmagoo (1142) Report abuse

Posted by: joan beckett-wilding (235) Report abuse
My friend used to live in Wolmer ST. Joan Heyes, she has a brother Brian, Her mum was Maggie Heyes.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Spud,by little field do you mean the Patch as we called it between Chadwick St and the dogtrack ?

Posted by: spudmagoo (1142) Report abuse
Yes I do Doodle - and Joan I knew the Heyes's quite well.

Posted by: spudmagoo (1142) Report abuse
In answer to johnlythq's earlier posting - Seddons owned some kennels near the dog track but couldn't tell you if they owned the track. My instinct says no.

Posted by: snooker001 (5)  Report abuse
I'm trying hard to find out about the GT&W union place in Chapel Lane. From the 70's I played in the Wigan Brass Band conducted by Jack Taylor. If anybody can please help me with either pictures of the building or even who was in charge of the hall back then, also if there are any members of the band floating around from around that era. Specifically 77/78/79
I have lived in Guernsey for 30 years and I'm trying to trace some part of my past.
Please could anybody help me??

Posted by: nannysodoff (390) Report abuse
Snooker,was Jack Taylor any relation to Charlie Taylor? Think the family were from Tyldesley,and we're in Salvation Army.Charlie was still with Tyldesley Band in the 80s,when my 3 daughters joined.
I played with Bedford Church Band,Leigh,in early 60s.(tenor horn)Bill Platt was a big part of that band.Used to love doing the Miners Galas,every year.

Posted by: snooker001 (5)  Report abuse
Hi nannysodoff Jack Taylor lived in Ashton in Makerfield. Jimmy Moss I recently found out died a couple of years ago. He was a good man and looked after me, when we found out we were sorted related from marriages way back. Denise played tenor horn...Its more about the Transporters & General union building that we used to practice in Chapel Lane. It would be nice to know if the building is still there or if anyone has any knowledge or photo's of the place and its history.

Posted by: nannysodoff (390) Report abuse
I played tenor horn with Bedford Church Band,Leigh,back in the early 60s., Bill Platt played a big part in the band then...i think his sons followed in his footsteps

Posted by: evian12345 (43)  Report abuse
I lived at poolstock facing ecesleys arms, main rd at front of us canal at back of us, 19 yrs I lived there, I think I know most people from round there and my aunt still lives in the house that we lived next to

Posted by: evian12345 (43)  Report abuse
I lived at poolstock facing ecesleys arms, main rd at front of us canal at back of us, 19 yrs I lived there, I think I know most people from round there and my aunt still lives in the house that we lived next to

Posted by: robjon (25) Report abuse
I went to poolstock school from 1952 till 1959 Mr Horrocks was the headmaster a friend of mine lived in one of the houses facing ecesleys arms her name was Jennifer I remember a lad called Barry Abrams a girl Pamela Danson one of the teachers I remember is Mr Smith

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2943)  Report abuse
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Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse
If you lived at number 6, Poolstock, would you put your address as ......

6 Poolstock,
Poolstock,
Wigan.

or just .....

6 Poolstock,
Wigan.

?

Posted by: cordyline (4144)   Report abuse
GB
Did your sister in law have a brother Tommy Milligan ?
There was a family lived in Granville Street that name.
Next door to them was the Simpson family

Posted by: Jim Latham (80) Report abuse
A girl called Mary Milligan was in my class at Poolstock C of E School around 1951/1952.
Also, did Alf Beckett have a Norton Motor bike many years ago? Was he a train driver?

Posted by: gaffer (5913)   Report abuse
Jimmy

My cousin Alf worked, along with his dad Joe, at the Viaduct railway wagon works in Earlestown.He wasn't a train driver.

Posted by: davep (48) Report abuse
Robjon,

I was at Poolstock School at the same time as you and Pamela and Barry were both in my class. Other included Mick Aitken, Frank Mapson, Tom Bibby, Dave McCann, Cliff Fairclough, Georgie Parr, Stephen Hall, Stan Smith, David Hemmingway and the girls Pat Hagan, Miriam Baldwin, Christine James, Pat Greenough, Heather Moore, Vivian Knowles, Janet Wilde, Christine Teasdale, Constance Young, Sandra Mason, Barbara ? , Christine Barker. With apologies to anyone I've missed out. Mr Smith tool the last class before secondary school.

Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
mick Aitken apparently runs a kerry packer type business in oz and his absolutely minted.

Posted by: susie q (1674)  Report abuse
I didn't go to Poolstock at that time,I went to Worsley Mesnes--but a lot of the names that are mentioned I remember so well. I was married to Dennis Bamber who lived in Chadwick street at that time. I often wonder what happened to these people they were the good old days don' you think

Posted by: evian12345 (43)  Report abuse
We used to put
Poolstock
Poolstock
Wigan
Wn59ew

Posted by: tonker (19020)   Report abuse

Posted by: broady (12695)   Report abuse
Was Mick Aitken's Mother the Secretary at Thomas Linacre??

Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
possibly

Posted by: Jim Latham (80) Report abuse
Hi Gaffer. Long time no see. The train-driver/motorcyclist I'm thinking about was Bretherton not Beckett. He had a 350cc Norton, which my next door neighbour bought some time later. Bretherton then moved up to a 650cc Norton Dominator. Some bike that!!
Anyway, I'll stick to my Triumph Tiger Cub.

Posted by: cordyline (4144)   Report abuse
Yes Bretherton had a 600 Dominator; sorry I've forgotten his first name, may have been Johnny

I wrote elsewhere on WWorld how that bike gave him street cred

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2943)  Report abuse
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Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2943)  Report abuse
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Posted by: Buddy (59) Report abuse
hi snooker 001 ........
I played in wigan brass band about 69/72 .alan mason was the conductor .
I knew jimmy moss well . he also worked at Heinz .ive not got any pictures but will ask the pem lads .
jack taylor rings a bell did he work at Heinz if so I knew him ...
if your still interested in bands look us up . www.the feds.com. Brisbane federal brass band .

Posted by: cordyline (4144)   Report abuse
Yes GB I remember Phoebe; older than Mary from memory
They had a brother Tommy

Next door to them lived Bob and Alex Simpson and their sister Beatrice

Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
snooker oo1 did/do you have a brother

Posted by: snooker001 (5)  Report abuse
baker boy:
yes I had two brothers, John Cartwright & Michael Cartwright.
I haven't seen or heard from them for about 20 odd years. That was only John. I don't know where they are living or what they are doing though?

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2943)  Report abuse
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Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
snookeroo1
I will ask dennis morgan about your brothers next time I see him,whats your first name.if your the family i'm thinking about are you tall or shortish.

Posted by: grimweeper (inactive) Report abuse
we lived on poolstock road #113 we had to move to ashton-in-makerfield due to being told the ground was rising and this will cause the houses to lean. i was about 4-5 year`s old at the time. my sister`s ex-husband was Toni mura the mura`s owned de romas ice cream all their Italian family. If any one else lived on poolstock road before we was all told to move we are the Davies family.

Posted by: baker boy (13741) Report abuse
the council did poolstock no favours by sending every neighbour to the 4 corners of wigan.why did it take so long to rebuild the place.
scholes was mown down and rebuilt within a couple of years.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Bulloughs Chippy Was it Etheringtons before Bulloughs I think His name was George,He was a Short Stocky bloke.

Posted by: cindy (5532)   Report abuse
Bulloughs Chippy Was it Etheringtons before Bulloughs I think His name was George,He was a Short Stocky bloke.

Posted by: gasmon (13) Report abuse
post duplicated

 
 
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