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balderdash and piffle

Started by: erontquay (inactive)

Wazzock

So where did the word come from then,

Started: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:50

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

I know it features in the song 'Capstick Comes Home'

And a certain Archbishop uses it on here.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:52

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Where do you think I gor the idea from

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:53

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Capstick Comes Home

Was also used on here (WW) to refer to worms by a poster some time ago.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:54

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)





"Blessed are the Wazzocks"

Feel free to send Victoria Coren round for a cup of tea and a chat.

^^^^ To me, not Robin.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:56
Last edited by dostaf: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:58:29

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Balderdash and Piffle sounds like one of Mac and Dostaf's threads on Handbags...

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:57

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Ha ha beat me to it.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 18:57

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

VG, Balderdash and Piffle was the name of a belting TV series, which set out to find the origin of various words and phrases in recent popular usage.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:00

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Dostaf - I am not suggesting for one minute that your 'threads' are not useful.

Wasn't aware of the show - perhaps before my time.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:01

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:02

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Wasn't aware of the show - perhaps before my time

Obviously a female.

It was more of a mon's show

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:05

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Erontquay's link reminded me of it, unfortunately I never watched it, but I remember it in the guide.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:09

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Victoria Coren? Mac will be along soon

Not that I'm saying he's a wazzock

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:09
Last edited by erontquay: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:10:47

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

And others, no doubt.

The Oxford English Dictionary describes `wazzock' as British slang, originating in the north, meaning a stupid or annoying person - basically an idiot.



Can I try your hat on?

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:11
Last edited by dostaf: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:14:19

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Mike Harding reckoned that if it wasn't shakespeare then it was someone form Barnsley circa 1968/ 69

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:17
Last edited by erontquay: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:20:04

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

She sounds very laid back about that million she won playing online poker, but I do wonder how much she lost and if she is an addict - when it came out in the press it sounded as if she had only ever played the one game in her life. Prefer her brother myself.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:19

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Stick to topic.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:21

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Incidentally, a Bishop's hat is called a mitre.

But I don't want to try Robin's on.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:23

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

'Stick to topic' - I apologise.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:34

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)



Gerroff. As if it matters.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:36

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:38

Posted by: veg grower (inactive)

Back to topic I haven't heard the term Wazzock for years. I remember adults saying it a lot in the 70's...

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:51

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

I've just been trying to find it on one of those dictionary sites. I can't remember the exact one, but there's a cracker which appears to be used by Americans who seem to get the wrong end of the stick a lot and then try to tell each other how English should be.

You get a lot of 'examples' given which include 'professor asks class' etc.

Them Yanks are daft.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 19:56
Last edited by dostaf: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:12:10

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Mind you, there's a belting example of a usage of the word 'snig', on another site.

And I don't think that was submitted by an American.

Wigan term for a freshwater Eel found in the area in the canal, River Douglas or ponds. Occasionally eaten as a delicacy by some locals

'I went out carp fishing but all I got was snigs'

'I was in St Patricks Club and two lads tried to sell me a dead snig for a Fiver...'

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:00
Last edited by dostaf: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:01:37

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Similarly

Who WAS Kaiser Bill....and why Batman?

Kaiser Bill was the British nickname for Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, monarch at the time of the First World War. The late 60s saw a youth fashion for things of the early 20th century (hence Sgt Pepper). Batman presumably doesn't refer to the superhero, but to the job title, a batman was a soldier given the job of personal assistant to a superior officer.

From here

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:11

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Here,s one for Moodysue.

Barbequed Snig

1Kg snig
3 cloves garlic
Few bay leaves
salt, pepper, oil, vinegar

Cut snig into 3" pieces marinade in the garlic oil pepper and vinegar, for a couple of hours thread onto skewers alternating with the bay leaves. Cook on barby till done.

Transported from Recipes.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:14

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Handbags here we come.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:16

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Nooo

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:18

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:20

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Etymology

Possibly from wiseacre.


From here

Gerroff

Unless it's an ironic term.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:22
Last edited by dostaf: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:25:47

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

And still we havn't found the origin of the word wazzock.

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:23

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

See above ^^^^^

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:25

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Yes I must have posted secs after you. Wiseacre mmm

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:30

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Smart Ar**

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:33

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

I think it could be a polite alternative for pillock.

But, what do I know?

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 20:33

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 21:02

Posted by: bentlegs (5306)

I first heared the word WAZZOCK from our woodwork teacher & that would be in 1947-8, If you made a mess of your work piece he would say, Thow it in the bin You Wazzock,

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 21:12

Posted by: tonker (27916) 

It's a corruption of the German word 'Wasserkopf', meaning brain damaged, mental, loony. A reet 'Yed t'ball'.

It's a Haydock word!


Dust know nowt, yoer?

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 21:59
Last edited by tonker: 18th Jun 2012 at 22:02:18

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Where are the detractors?

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 22:29

Posted by: tonker (27916) 

They're thinking what to say. Give 'em chance!

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 22:33

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Replied: 18th Jun 2012 at 22:34

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Eront, what a brilliant find Wazzocksend is.

THE PLANNING COMMITTEE
"Keeping you in your place!"


I was nearly tempted to use textspeak to describe my watery drawers.

Mac and Tonker, don't be knocking them.

I reckon the term could originate in Yorkshire and crossed over into the Peak District. Hence the Rochdale Cowboy's familiarity with it.

Or Tonker's Republic of Germany

Many a true word. See # 50

So there we have it. Thanks to Tonker, and bit of cultural fact-bending- It's a Wiganism.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 01:06
Last edited by dostaf: 19th Jun 2012 at 01:34:32

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Dostaf did you read the advice column in the "Gobbing Guardian. Classic Glad you liked it.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 09:51

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Read it from cover-to-cover, Eront.

Glad to see Chipping Sodbury mentioned. (Hippo story)

There aren't half some comical parallels with Wigan, T'council, WEP, and WW posters.

No names, no pack drill.

But one person certainly came to mind as I read this:

The town's status was confirmed in 1971 when the ancient suburb of Little Gobbing was brought into the local government fold to form the present Metropolitan Borough.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 14:50

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

A quaint litte rag, EQ. Worth the peruse.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 14:53

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Sir Hugo De Gobbynge,

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 14:55

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Just plain Mac will do.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 14:58

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 15:01

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Spelling proper is not ness...neciss...always required.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 15:03

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

In 1698 the scholars burned their school down, tired of being preached at by a man who clearly couldn't spell for toffee.

Education

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 15:06

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

"Hahahah" Just seen your link dostaf, Will read later The stories look interesting.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 16:43

Posted by: dostaf (inactive)

It really could have been a parody of Wigan and 'some Wiganers'.

Marvelous find.

Even mentions the origin of the River Wazz name. (Platt Bridgers, take note)

Yes, I am aware of the tram stop.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 16:47
Last edited by dostaf: 19th Jun 2012 at 16:49:13

Posted by: madamehmurray (6273) 

I played the game and it is a pretty good one.

Replied: 19th Jun 2012 at 20:14

 

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