Speaking of Pies ....................

........... I called in at that 'Pound Bakery' to see for myself what they had to offer.

Looking on the Meat and Potato pie shelf, I noticed the 'lid' had come off one of the pies, revealing the inside of the pie. And what met my eye looked anything but nice. A brown 'slop' which looked like 'mashed potato and brown sauce put through a blender'.
So, meat and potato pies were crossed of my choice list!

I settled for two sausage rolls for a pound, which were very nice indeed.
So, there we go. 10 out of 10 for the sausage rolls, pound bakery. But those meat and potatoes will make sure you never have an empty bin!

Hi tonks, i called in there myself and got 2 sausage rolls they was alreet, i have tried meat & prato and one bite sent it sailing down mi shirt, perhaps them pies might be ok for pie eating championship.

Try using a knife + fork.

or a spoon

or try making Lobby

just because you cant make a crust peawapp you eat lobbys

I have never eaten lobbys in my life now lobby is a completely different matter

For the last time, you can't make just one Lobby! You can however make a pan full of 'Lobbies' no matter what those daft sods in Leigh say, so ner!

give it up Joseph Lobby it is,Lobby it has always been and lobby it will be forever

the trouble with meat and potato pies is re-heating,
as tonker says they are mostly brown inside with
re-heating them.any pie eater will tell you they
should be white inside,here speaks an expert.

I can honestly say in all my life I have never heard them called Lobby until you arrived here.

now hear the word of the Leyther

i think you made the word lobby up peawapp.
i'v got relatives in leigh and they call them
lobbies.

Joseph, don't poke fun. You know the levels of abject poverty the leythers find themselves in. one lobby is a fair old meal for them, (They share even that).
We have lobbies, we don't share.

You are quite correct Gwim, one shouldn't mock the afflicted. The word on the grapevine is that all dwellings in the Leigh area are to be fitted with the latest gas mantles available from summer 2011, thus allowing the locals to read up on the new world that awaits them.

Wigan - Lobbies.....Liverpool - Scouse..

Two versions of the same dish - Lobscouse...simple, 'innit?

Lobby - The passage or Hall behind the front door, normally.
Other than that, an alley or corridor..

Leythers wouldn't understand that....Off the street, straight into t'livin' room, in a 2up-2down....jokin', of course..

Nay, I predict riots. All this new fangled technology foisted upon them without so much as a by-your-leave!

I'll just say this and then leave the subject,gwim says you dont share,but back in 1926 the Wigginers certainly had their share of the humble pie

peawapp i think you will find it is umble pie no H

"humble pie. Here we have a play upon words which dates back to the time of William the Conqueror. First, the pie referred to in 'eating humble pie' was really umble pie, made from the umbles - heart, liver and gizzard - of a deer. It was made to be eaten by servants and huntsmen, while the lord of the manor and his guests dined on venison. Thus a person who had to eat umble pie was in a position of inferiority -- one who had to humble himself before his betters. The pun resulting from umble and humble is even more precise when you recall that in several British dialects - notably Cockney - the h in humble would be silent. Actually, the two words come from quite different roots, humble from the Latin 'humilis'(low or slight), and 'umbie' from the Latin 'lumulus' (loin)."

what absolute and utter tripe
it's humble believe me

Now now, Peawapp. The green eyed monster just doesn't become you.

I think lobby is some sort of delicacy in leigh, it's £3-50 a plate in leigh market

Is it advertised as 'lobby', Dodger.

Or is it under-the-counter stuff?

it's advertised as lobby on a big menu on the cafe wall.
it must be good it's dearer than a full breakfast

So there we have it.


But;

If you don't mind me pressing the issue, Dodger;

Given that this sign is in the market, are you sure that the proprietor hasn't put in the odd apostrophe.

Lobby's

there's no apostrophe, it's Lobby, as in peawaps alter ego Lobby Lud

And there's no Douglas in Dodger.

We can now expect a moan about how Lobby Ludd wasn't in The Daily Mirror and of no significance to the owd curmudgeon.

Hey guys, ya'll absolutely crack me up !! I have never seen (heard) such a really lively, educated, sarcastic debate on pies. I really need to come to Wigan one day and sample these pies!

Ya'll are too much fun.......thanks.

Tonker/bambam would you have partaked of the Pound Bakery in Ashton by any chance I only noticed it for the first time in Gerard Street on Wednesday

Southern Belle.

There is nothing special whatsoever about the pies in Wigan.

There. I've said it.

The jealous natives of a nearby town attempted to besmirch tho good folk of Wigan when we colonised/annexed them in the early 70's. Supposedly there is historical evidence to suggest that the term Pie Eater was coined by them to describe Wiganers following industrial action in the early twentieth century.

It was probably one person's comment about a distant relative (singular). That's if it did happen at all.

Anyroad, when the simple townspeople of Leigh were enslaved by Wigan, they used this so-called slur as an act of defiance. Bless em. It was adopted by followers of their local Rugby team and oh how they laughed.

The thing that amuses me about all this, is that when they started casting aspersions, Wiganers were absolutely non plussed. Leaving the Leigh people with a job of explaining their insult. (rather defusing, don't you think?)

As time went on, rather than keep resorting to bogus history lessons, the reason for the insult was diluted to the ridiculous level of claiming that we (Wiganers) consumed more pies than they did.

To counter this anomaly it is suggested that they consume more lobby (see lobbies) than us.

All utter twaddle.

The problem in my opinion, is that lots of younger Wiganers (forgive them they know no better) have embraced the Pie Eater tag in a similar way to how other members of society have 'owned' insults. (see n word)

I'm all for this in theory, but I much rather prefer challenging a Leigh person who uses the sleight and asking him/her where the term originates.



Hope this is of assistance. But feel free to visit and sample pies in either town. There's no shortage of pie shops in each location.

peawapp

For your information, Geoffrey Shryhane, who works for the Wigan Observer, has scoured every newspaper at the time of the strike in 1926 and nowhere can he find any mention of Wiganers going back to the pits before anyone else.

But even if they had, it would have been because their kids were starving. There were no Benefits then.

Where have all the pies gone?????

dostaf

Thank you for your honesty about the pies and also for the amusing history of the term "pie eaters". I have seen that referenced here on WW and was curious. I am planning to attempt the making of a meat/potatoe pie for my sweetie on Christmas. Wish me luck. Also, I didn't know what lobbies were and asked Jim and he said he was not a fan of them. He preferred pies...so pie it is.

Thanks again.....

Peawapp, try eytin' "Rylands Lobby"..A bit gritty like

It was a footpath in Wigan, closed in 1924..

mswigan
this geoffrey shryhane character should search the Leigh Journal or reporter and he will find the evidence of the said scabs' dodger has found evidence that peawapp is once again correct in the correct pronunciation,Lobby it is I rest my case I thank you

you can save us a lot of time tell us the dates of the reports in the Leigh Journal and its still umble with no H

try pound bakery traditional pasty's mmmm very tasty and 2 for a quid you cant go wrong.

Dictionary definition

"lob·scouse   /ˈlɒbskaʊs/ Show Spelled
[lob-skous]
–noun
a stew of meat, potatoes, onions,"

Gimme Blackberry Pie and Custert, anyday!

"Thank you for your honesty about the pies and also for the amusing history"

Amusing history indeed!

It's fact.

Fact I tell you.

A.P.L.S, No. I haven't been to the Ashton one yet. I called at the new one in Wigan.

Southern Belle., Wigan isn't full of pie manufacturers. It's just a rumour.

Peawap, Wigan miners weren't the first to return to work in the 1926 strike. The Eastwood (Nottinghamshire) miners were.

And anyway, which 'Wigan' miners were these then? I'll bet there wasn't a handful of 'em!

I tried that one in town the other week. I knew I was in for a rough ride when I saw two Rennies strapped to the underneath of the pie foil. If they were a pound for a pallet full I'd give them a miss.

You're safe to try the sausage rolls though. They've been through the testing process, and come out on top!

Two Rennies?

"So, it's good pie from me."
"And it's good pie from him."

pea brain

give us the dates of the Leigh Journal you are refering to about the Wiganers going back to work during the strike.

Hey dostaf

I meant no insult, only that I like the "amusing" way you have of telling such facts. I am from Mississippi, USA and not aware of too much of the history of Wigan and surrounding areas but I love to read what everyone writes and I also enjoy the pictures of Wigan. It looks so lovely.

Take care and have a good eveing.....

As from next week, Lobbies in a bottle, Leigh only.

Southern Belle.

I felt no insult whatsoever. I was quite flattered.

I'm really happy that you are interested in Wigan.

As you can see from some of the above comments, the true origin of the Pie Eater label is shrouded in mystery, and the debate will continue.

I prefer my version.

And don't be listening too much to people from Leigh. They are daft. (Another Fact)

MY favorite pie is chocolate pecan.......YUUUMMM

dostaf

how do I identify people from Leigh??

I,m with peawapp on this.
I worked in the Leyth area for many years,and discussed the Lobbies issue many times,and as far back as the 1970,s to Leythers "LOBBY" it was and still is

dostaf

I understand that you have been talking to my girlfriend in the USA and she has told you that I am from Wigan. She is correct. I don't know where you live but I used to live in Marsh Green. My mam used to put peas and carrots with all the rest of the ingredients as quoted above but my girlfriend does not know how good meat and potatoe pie and red cabbage tastes so good on a New Years Eve after a belly full of bevvy.
Please reply to Southern Belle about what would New Years Eve be without meat & potatoe pie.

But she is trying to make me eat Chittlins, Hog maws and turkey necks.....Help! God Bless me.........

new years eve hot pot

dr wat
thanks for the reminder on New Years Eve it's hot pot, not meat and potato pie

JR. You MUST resist, for your own safety!

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James Roberts, I'm glad the pie/hotpot issue has been clarified. Though there's nothing wrong with eating a pie if you so wish.

I can't possibly comment about the strange diet Southern Belle seems to enjoy. I think I'd opt for a pot noodle.


Southern Belle, it's very hard to identify people from Leigh by sight. The crafty swines look almost like us. The only giveaway is a small birthmark shaped like a tractor on the inside of the left eyelid.

And believe me, they don't like you checking.

Peawapp will be heading for the mirror (looking glass not newspaper) as he reads this.

The simplest way to spot one is to announce that you are a Wiganer, or in your case, tell them your boyfriend is a Wiganer. They can't resist. they have to make some comment or other. I put it down to a deep seated envy of a superior race.

That's the main problem with them, you see. If a chap from Leigh came to Wigan and announced his origin, no one would bat an eyelid. He'd be treated just the same as any other visitor to town. However, if a Wigan fellow went to Leigh (and I have) they would be less hospitable. I suspect there is an underlying fear that we Wiganers, not satisfied with stealing their identity, are out to steal their young maidens etc. And their shoes. They are very protective of their shoes.

A proud shoe owner.