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Started by: taffy58 (197) 

ive cast my postal vote Brexit for me boll---s to the labour party in wigan. they've no ball- good at talking about what there go na do but not got bottle to do things. like all these so called do gooders in government cons/ lab lets have a change . lets go back to owd generation name and shame people not were criminals in society do wrong but you cant name them for legal reasons lets put there names in shop windows so everyone in town knows who they are . my day if my mother did not pay her bill at end off 2 wks they used to put name in shop window . not saying it was good practice at times . but that was just essentials for food ./ not these criminal nob h--ds to day . theves. vagabonds / druggis./ peodos./ and young offenders were they cant be named because legal reasons ./ print and show photo.s off all conserned ime firm beliver in letting everone no who these scumbags are who are living and making life hell for the good law abiding citizens of our town

Started: 29th Nov 2019 at 21:22

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Stick their heads on staves above the town gates: bring back drawing and quartering, and the good old Spanish inquisition!

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 21:36

Posted by: tonker (27833) 

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 21:52

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 22:02

Posted by: whups (13119) 

if you dont need the NHS just vote tory .

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 22:46

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Now that we have taken back control, and vested it firmly in the hands of Rupert Murdoch/Fox, a small number of Hedge Fund Billionaires, and the (mostly Russian) Oligarchs who back Trump/Frag/Boj. The same people who took all the pelf over the last decade, when we were 'all in it together' are well positioned to do it all over again throughout the next decade.

Do not spoil the party by allowing parliaments, whether EU or UK to exert any control at the expense of this illustrious elite.

We have achieved, with the efforts of people who said they objected to elites, the MOST elitist administration that UK has had in the last three centuries!

Do not throw away this achievement now. We are well on our way to becoming an authoritarian rogue state!

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 23:10

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

If yoo want a Tory Government, then vote for the Brexit Party in Wigan, Makerfield and Leigh constituencies

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 23:37

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Where will you find any tories?

Those who haven't left were thrown out or forced out by Boj.

His party now are 'NAPPIES'.

Nationalist
Populist

And full of Sh1t from day one

and likely to infect everything with which they come into contact with, unless they are changed soon!

Replied: 29th Nov 2019 at 23:42

Posted by: whups (13119) 

1stroke wont need the NHS because he will be able to afford private medical insurance with the money he,s saved by not paying his tax for the last 47yrs.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 00:27

Posted by: broady (inactive)

No one can escape the tax man for 47 years. More rubbish talk.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 02:31
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Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

Whupsy

How many times doo I have to tell yoo , that the Labour Party we grew up with in the 1960s led by Harold Wilson, is nothing like the Labour Party there is of today, led by an idiot who wants to go backwards, instead of forwards ...

Now yoo know that when yon Scottish one eyed git, Gordo Brown, bailed the banks out in 2008 when they went bust, to the tune of billions and billions of pounds, who had to pay for that ????

Did Gordo pay for it ?

Did Tony pay for it ?

No,, them two were too busy making speeches in Yankland on the after dinner speech circuit ....

No Whupsy, me and thee paid for all that out of our taxes, do yoo remember them saying "we are all in it together" well it was a lie, because we were in the brown stuff (shite) whilst Tony and Gordo lived the high life making millions

Yoo want to wake up Whupsy and smell the coffee

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 09:37

Posted by: wigandiver (301)

"Gordo Brown, bailed the banks out in 2008 when they went bust, to the tune of billions and billions of pounds, who had to pay for that ????"

Well there's a surprise; it was the Financial crisis started by the selling off of sub prime mortgages in the states, and worsened by the passing off of bad debts, (derivitives), by other banks.

Javid worked for Duetsche bank doing this. Blame him.

https://www.euromoney.com/article/b12km259jtpqtd/sajid-javid-from-risky-business-to-business-secretary

We keep being told that it was Labour that spent too much.
They did, but if Brown hadn't bailed the banks out, the whole financial system would have crashed.

The banks caused the problem: we paid the price by bailing them out by billions, and nine years of austerity, but don't let facts get in the way of lies.


Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:23
Last edited by wigandiver: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:32:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

Point I was going to make was that if Corbyn spends all these billions renationalising everything, then it will be me and thee who will be paying for it, for years to come by higher taxes and austerity, and saying that I wish that the utilities and strategic assets in this country had not been privatised, but to try and reverse 40 years of privatisation in a single five year parliament by massive borrowing, is mental and unnecessary.

They should start with the railways and buses, and renationalise the other assets bit by bit over a long period of time.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:38

Posted by: wigandiver (301)

"They should start with the railways and buses, and renationalise the other assets bit by bit over a long period of time."

Surprise surprise, I agree with you, but stop trotting out the story that Labour caused the financial crisis.
They didn't; Javid and his ilk did.

If we crash out with Johnson's deal, there will be sweet sod all left to invest on anything.

From the Institute for Fiscal Studies on no deal:

"But IFS researchers have found that the long-term picture for borrowing and government debt appears more complicated, and less promising."

Here: https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14494

Labour is not my ideal choice, (which is ?), but preferable to the shambles that Johnson would cause. That's if he hasn't melted.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:50
Last edited by wigandiver: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:51:17

Posted by: Dave xl5 (477) 

UKIP2 The Brexit party will not conquer Wigan, I don't think they'll do very much conquering anywhere else either, a very small handful of seats at best. What they may do is stop what I think would be the best of a bad job, another “a hung Parliament”. Nigel Farage is a snake oil salesman, at times he's not bad at it, but nonetheless. Boris Johnson is a the very least a professional fibber, a
Dick Dastardly/Artful Dodger, in a friendly clown's guise. Vote for Boris at your extreme, and I do mean extreme, peril. And as for comrade Jeremy Corbyn, AKA squiffy specs, the most successful destroyer of political parties know to the working man! Well I wouldn't bother if I was you, this Red Robbo's is going nowhere but the dinosaur graveyard in Siberia. And as for the rest, they are no
more than,“Collateral Damage” and not worth the bother. So as for me it's a walk to Mt. Zion church with the wife, followed by a coin toss, and a begrudging cross for one of the collateral's... Sad init!!!

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:56

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

"but preferable to the shambles that Johnson would cause."

So you can excuse his and McDonnell's traitorous behaviour of praising terrorists and honouring them with wreaths and elect him and his gang to run this country?

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 10:59

Posted by: FAT MICK (inactive)

Vote Tory and dont tell anyone

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 11:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

wigandiver

I never said that Labour caused the financial crash, the point I was making was that if Corbyn splashes out the billions, it won't be him or his government who pay for it, it will be us poor buggers.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 12:37

Posted by: wigandiver (301)

"So you can excuse his and McDonnell's traitorous behaviour of praising terrorists and honouring them with wreaths and elect him and his gang to run this country? "

No, but that isn't the topic under discussion.
Do you excuse all the sayings of Johnson and Farage ?

"it won't be him or his government who pay for it, it will be us poor buggers."
We already have paid for it for the last nine years of May and Johnson. He now wants to splash the cash, but with no explanation on how to pay for it.

With interest rates at their lowest ever, it is prudent to borrow to invest, but as I agreed, not all at once.
If we want services we have to pay for them, but that means everyone: people and all firms, including the likes of Amazon et al.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 12:59

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

When have Johnson or Farage paid homage to terrorists or wanted ex squaddies jailed? Political sayings by anyone don't come close to the traitors actions.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 13:04

Posted by: wigandiver (301)

"When have Johnson or Farage paid homage to terrorists or wanted ex squaddies jailed? Political sayings by anyone don't come close to the traitors actions."

The GFA should have included a Truth and Reconciliation panel, and that may have healed some wounds for all sides.

What about Johnson's and Farage's comments that led to an increase in hate crimes.

I'm nor an uncritical fan of Corbyn, but on balance I'll vote for Labour, (not necessarily him), in the election.

Johnson would be an unmitigated disaster for this country, and hasn't Farage said that if Brexit doesn't work, he'll move abroad. Pity the poor sods, who don't have that choice.


Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 13:55

Posted by: firefox (3239)

I am an ABC (Anyone but Corbyn). I can't vote Conservative so have just returned my postal vote and placed my cross for the Brexit Party.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 14:25

Posted by: whups (13119) 

more rubbish by you . how do amazon not pay any tax . if you dont say your working & dont claim owt then you get away with it . wise up wideboy.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 14:30

Posted by: firefox (3239)

More rubbish by who?


Amazon and tax

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 16:05

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

"the best of a bad job, another “a hung Parliament”"

What a state! We have left ourselves with any option for change being confined to movement in the direction of extremism! (only a hung outcome can hold them in check)

Best option for the country is for the election to put us right back to that which pertained before the election!

The ideologues won't like it. They'll howl They will probably try even more illegal moves!

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 16:28

Posted by: Stardelta (11829)

When people claim that Corbyn* is an IRA supporter and sympathiser I can't help but think......what idots!

You really should factcheck these things first. It won't make you look anywhere near as daft

The man has condemned the IRA and gone on the record.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/jeremy-corbyn-says-ira-were-terrorists-1.3091883

* Other party leaders and figureheads are available.

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 17:06
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Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Oh how I laughed at that bag of

Replied: 30th Nov 2019 at 17:34

Posted by: whups (13119) 

dont forget the secret meetings that the thatcher government was having with adams & mcguiness .

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 00:22

Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

some people need to take a common sense test before they are allowed to vote and also not have been unemployed for more then six months payed all the taxes and not be over 60 white male who sits on the computer all day

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 04:33
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Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

i have to post this to get some of the facts out there

jewsforlabour

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 04:58

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Whups,
I presume you will be all over this post from Peter Israel as he “ did a runner” and shouldn’t comment on UK politics.

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 06:07

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Peter Israel that's a great link thanks.

But you forget he does nothing about the antisemites in his party and allows them to flourish. A case of keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer I think. He isn't fit to be PM.

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 09:03

Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

But you forget he does nothing about the antisemites in his party HOw do YOU know this??? was it the daily mail or the Express ?? i do not know if he is fit or not i just know how its been in the uk in the last ten years>>>>> and it seems people have forgot

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 09:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

I think that Corbyn may indeed NOT be a antisemite as such, but he has criticised the Israeli policies over the years, and then opened that painting didn't he ...

BUT

And I have not heard this word mentioned at all during this election, and that word is 'Momentum' now whether that word is banned under the Purdah rules I don't know.

Purdah

But Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party by a bloodless Koo, and I am serious about that, in that after David Milliband resigned in 2015 thousands and thousands of these left wing pillocks of the 'Momentum' movement, joined the Labour Party and swept lefty Corbyn to power, and it is THEY who are the antisemites, and owd Jezza has to dance to their tune, and so there you are, and if you remember this happened in the early 1980s when the 'Militant' group infiltrated the Labour Party, but Neil Kinnock got them all kicked out, but the damage they did meant that we had a Conservative Government in power for 18yrs and it was Tony Blair and Gordon Brown who persuaded the British people that New Labour as it was called, would not go back to having silly left wing policies ....

And the rest is history, Tony Blair won three elections for Labour, two of which were landslides and the third still gave him a healthy majority, and that was after all the Iraq War crap had happened, but the Labour of today, is not the Labour of 20yrs ago, they are now a Marxist infiltrated extreme Party, with mental policies.

So Whupsy yoo should be looking at getting rid of 'Momentum' from the Labour Party, not promoting them ...

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 11:30
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Posted by: priscus (inactive)

So are you saying that the behaviour of the state of Israel is beyond criticism?

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 11:33

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

No,, but by criticising the Israelis, and supporting the Palestinians, and ignoring the terrorist things the Palestinians did and do, then that could be seen as him being antisemitic ...

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 12:30

Posted by: firefox (3239)

Stardelta, have you actually read the story in the link?

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 12:38

Posted by: whups (13119) 

so 1stroke you dont think gordon brown did anything good do you .

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 14:11

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Corbyn condemning the IRA

However he is not an antisemite

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 14:34
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Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

"HOw do YOU know this??? was it the daily mail or the Express ?? i do not know if he is fit or not i just know how its been in the uk in the last ten years"

So in the last ten years you have never heard of the anti Jewish problems within the Labour party, Why do they still have the same problem now and why hasn't Corbyn done something about it?

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 20:30

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

He has done something about it!

From Peter Israel's link.

"In 2017-19 Jeremy introduced 20 new measures to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party"

"Corbyn has already received extensive support from Orthodox Jewish leaders. Thirty-four leading rabbis signed a letter praising Labour’s “respected leader” and describing attacks on him as “irresponsible”. The letter was attacked as a fake by Corbyn’s critics, who were later forced to withdraw the claim when evidence was revealed by the SKWAWKBOX that they were aware of its authenticity."

I think I will take the word of 34 leading Rabbis as opposed to your's

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 20:40
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Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Corbyn is anti Israel, pro terrorist

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 20:43

Posted by: baker boy (15718)

priscus

nothing wrong in dealing firmly with criminals.
lax sentencing and re education seems to be the modern consensus but its not proving effect with career criminals.
jeremy,s condemnation of certain terrorist group's hardly seems to leave any one thinking it's a stern rebuke for these thugs.more a slap on wrist,he just does not seem to be ernest enough with his statements on these groups.
we the labour party have dealt very strongly with the anti semites within our party,seems lacking in conviction or carrying out the required boot up the backside expulsion,s.

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 20:46

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

Posted by: Spangles

"Corbyn is anti Israel, pro terrorist"

And according to you thatcher shut down 1723 pits.
And there are no people sleeping rough in Wigan

You can't be trusted with stating facts. You have already been caught out telling Pork Pies on more than one occasion

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 21:05

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (448) View Salmon & Ball's page100+ Report abuse

He has done something about it!

From Peter Israel's link.

"In 2017-19 Jeremy introduced 20 new measures to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party"

"Corbyn has already received extensive support from Orthodox Jewish leaders. Thirty-four leading rabbis signed a letter praising Labour’s “respected leader” and describing attacks on him as “irresponsible”. The letter was attacked as a fake by Corbyn’s critics, who were later forced to withdraw the claim when evidence was revealed by the SKWAWKBOX that they were aware of its authenticity."

Then please explain why Louise Ellman and Luciana Berger left the party due to antisemitic abuse and being bullied by anti semites and why do some of the backbenchers say they are ashamed of the party and Corbyns 'failure' of leadership.

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 21:05

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

"Then please explain why Louise Ellman and Luciana Berger left the party"

Ive no idea. I can't explain.
Send them a tweet and ask them directly

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 21:17

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

baker boy

Why are you aiming that comment at me?

I have NEVER commented in any way that might suggest favouring treating criminals less harshly.

Replied: 1st Dec 2019 at 22:25

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Posted by: Spangles

"Corbyn is anti Israel, pro terrorist"

And according to you thatcher shut down 1723 pits.
And there are no people sleeping rough in Wigan

You can't be trusted with stating facts. You have already been caught out telling Pork Pies on more than one occasion


Still clutching at straws

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 12:30

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (450) View Salmon & Ball's page100+ Report abuse

"Then please explain why Louise Ellman and Luciana Berger left the party"

Ive no idea. I can't explain.

It was explained in the post you have replied to "they left the party due to antisemitic abuse and being bullied by anti semites".

So why is it still happening when you say he "He has done something about it!" Clearly he hasn't done bugger all and so my accusation stands that he is allowing Jew baiting in his party even now and he obviously doesn't have a problem with it. The Labour party is riddled with rabid antisemitics.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 14:08

Posted by: baker boy (15718)

priscus please accept my apology if i have made a mistake.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 14:17

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

Terry. Why would 34 leading Rabbis support and praise Labours respected leader? Their words. Not mine.

"Corbyn has already received extensive support from Orthodox Jewish leaders. Thirty-four leading rabbis signed a letter praising Labour’s “respected leader”

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 15:06

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

They must be lying as the antisemitic's in the Labour party are still at work within the party.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 16:26

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

Posted by: Spangles (3804)
"Still clutching at straws"

If you can call stating facts of the bunkum, bull, lies, etc which you have posted on here clutching at straws. I'll hold my hands up and say I'm guilty.

"Why would 34 leading Rabbis support and praise Labours respected leader?" Chew over that.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 16:28

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

Because they are Labour supporters obviously.

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 16:35

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

So 34 Leading Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Leaders therefore have no problem with "allegations" of antisemitics in the party.

So they seem happy enough that it does not exist.
I'll take the 34 Rabbi's version of events. It would be churlish not to.

That puts this to bed now. In my opinion

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 18:14

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)



Of the 2,025 British Jewish people who responded to the survey, 83 per cent said that Labour is too tolerant of antisemitism among their MPs, members and supporters. That’s significantly higher than the proportion of British Jews who think the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are too tolerant of antisemitism (19 per cent and 36 per cent respectively).

Replied: 2nd Dec 2019 at 22:55

Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

Corbyn is anti Israel, pro terrorist" NOT TRUE! Corbyn wants a two state solution
Momentum'is built and run by a jew
Hamas was allowed to grow under a right wing Israel GOV because it was competition for Arafat and Fatah

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 08:38

Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

most jews in the labour were Blairism [soft Conservatives] and they do not sit well with corbln and his hard labour thinking... it was the same problem with Gordon brown.... when the establishment [press] does not want you its a up hill fight

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 08:51
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Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Please explain why he has never ever condemned his friends the ira but critisises British servicemen.

The London bridge attack was Trumps fault according to Corbyn

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 09:45

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Can't think of anything wrong with Jeremy Corbyn apart from...

Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 10:11

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Not pro terrorist?

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 10:13

Posted by: peter israel (2100) 

how about the Haganah or Irgun swings and roundabouts

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 12:30

Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

"That puts this to bed now. In my opinion"

And that's all it is your opinion. You yourself cannot put this to bed because the problem in the Labour party is still rearing it's ugly head and you have no influence on the matter.

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 14:02

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

"you have no influence on the matter"

Neither have you

Why would 34 leading Rabbis support and praise Labours respected leader?

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 14:31
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Posted by: TerryW (inactive)

"Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for antisemitic incidents involving Labour party members and said he was dealing with the issue."

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 15:18

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Why would 34 leading Rabbis support and praise Labours respected leader?

their opinion is no more valid than any other jew.
Everyones equal at the ballot box

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 16:57

Posted by: baker boy (15718)

are these rabbis names listed on this supposed letter,if so they should look very carefully at the labour parties antisemetic stance.

Replied: 3rd Dec 2019 at 23:20

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 


Attack on Rabbi in North London.

The shadow home secretary, Diane Abbott, and the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, both condemned the attack.

Corbyn tweeted that he had spoken to Gluck to express his concerns.

"This racist attack on the Sabbath is appalling. My thoughts are with the Rabbi who was attacked and I stand in solidarity with the Jewish community."

"I have spoken to Rabbi Gluck from the Shomrim security group to express my concerns. We must stop this scourge of antisemitism"

Gluck confirmed that Corbyn “phoned to find out what happened and to express his shock and empathy with the community”.

He added: “We deeply appreciate his concern. He sounded extremely genuine. He was the ONLY party leader who called.

Well done, Jeremy & Diane

From here. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/02/police-criticised-response-attack-rabbi-in-north-london




Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 18:54

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

He was the only party leader that called!

The others have nothing to prove

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 19:16

Posted by: baker boy (15718)

a gift from the gods for the beleaguered leader.

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 19:43

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 


Make that 35 Leading Rabbis

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 20:24
Last edited by Salmon & Ball: 4th Dec 2019 at 20:25:22

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

and these dudes

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 21:22
Last edited by Zanzibar Spangles: 4th Dec 2019 at 21:25:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15200)

I have tactically now Postal Voted for the Brexit Party, so that means that myself and a lot of traditional Labour Party Voters, will end up voting for the same candidate, so the Brexit Party is unifying people in places like Wigan, where traditional Labour Voters will never in any circumstances vote for the Conservatives

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 21:27

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (665) 

@ spangler.
Errm.
We are on about Leading Rabbis???
Unless you know about a Leading Rabbi from Pakistan

Give it up. Give it up for your own sanity

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 21:30
Last edited by Salmon & Ball: 4th Dec 2019 at 21:31:50

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

This Rabbi thinks different

"Just weeks before we go to the polls, the overwhelming majority of British Jews are gripped by anxiety”, Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis wrote in The Times this week. The electoral intervention, warning that “a new poison - sanctioned from the top - has taken root” in the party, was yet another mark of the serious breakdown in relations between many of Britain’s Jews and the Labour Party".

Replied: 4th Dec 2019 at 23:35

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3915)

Furthermore...

Seventy serving and former Labour officials have turned whistleblower and given sworn statements to the official investigation into the party’s antisemitism crisis, The Times has learnt.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has been inundated with testimonies from Labour Party staff, officials on the national executive and elected representatives since it announced in May that it was investigating the party.

In addition it has been sent more than 100 testimonies from party members, many Jewish, about antisemitism they say they have suffered or witnessed at party events.

The evidence has been drawn together in the Jewish Labour Movement’s 47-page, 28,000 word submission to the inquiry, which The Times has seen.



Replied: 5th Dec 2019 at 08:17
Last edited by Zanzibar Spangles: 5th Dec 2019 at 08:19:10

 

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