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Corbyn on the SAS
Started by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
scumbag...

Posted by: retep1949 (544) Report abuse
How can anyone vote for this man and his bunch of cretins.

Posted by: fred mason (2815)   Report abuse
I will always vote for Jeremy Corbyn, Always.....


...just as soon as he descends onto planet Earth and joins the normal people on our planet.

At the moment he is lost in space....IDIOT...

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I wonder what he meant when he said the SAS wasn't wearing their own clothes, does he mean they weren't dressed in balaclavas and what not

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
seeing as the SAS were in basrah wonder why never mentioned the war entered on a tony blair lie?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
The man is a traitor to this country. Nothing more needs to be said about this moronic man.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
The man is a traitor to this country. Nothing more needs to be said about this moronic man.

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
How on earth did this man become leader of the Labour Party. He has never stood for anything , in opposition to everything ,No Ministerial or Shadow MInister experience. The Labour Party needs to go back to what it should be . Not a party that supports nutters from fringe groups. That is Corbyn supports every cause their is . But what has he ever done in the time he has been in parliament , but oppose

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Someone on Wiganworld has said he can set up a Meeting with Jeremy Corbyn.
I would like to suggest a venue, how about Mcdonalds on Bridge street in Warrington.



Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
no whups, no wigan diver or grim,sad dog, salmon and ballcock etc etc.NO DEFENCE FROM THE LUNATIC LEFT.
disappointment runs deep to have a leader ? like our jeremy.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
probably because of the lieing right whingers like you .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Whups
Are those photos telling a lie?
or are you also an IRA supporter

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: baker boy (14645) [10,000+] Report abuse

"no whups, no wigan diver or grim,sad dog, salmon and ballcock etc etc.NO DEFENCE FROM THE LUNATIC LEFT.
disappointment runs deep to have a leader ? like our jeremy."

Can you get someone to translate that schoolboy rant, please?

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
LUNATIC LEFT ?

That looks like shouting and ranting from the ranting right.

Why should I defend Corbyn ? I didn't even vote for him, or support him.

Any response to the fact that British Government officials also held secret talks with the PIRA during the troubles?

Thought not.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
So we have Corbyn criticising and mocking our servicemen,
Then we have photos of Corbyn huddling with the terrorists that have murdered hundreds of our servicemen.

Conclusion?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: wigandiver (73)
"Why should I defend Corbyn ? I didn't even vote for him, or support him."

Can you understand that, ZS?
What Wigandiver typed also applies to me

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Wigandivers voting preferences are between him and his conscience,
I don't recall refering to him in any way shape or form.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
"huddling with the terrorists that have murdered hundreds of our servicemen.

Conclusion?"

That could equally apply to the Government Officials, who held talks with the PIRA.

All finding ways to stem the violence.

Jaw jaw jaw is better than war war war.
Reecognise the saying ?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Are you seriously trying say there is an equivalence?
You have already tried to defend him on the Ian Austen thread.
So do you agree with his comments about our servicemen?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
ZS.
Keep your nose out of anyone else's voting preferences.
It's nothing to do with you

I don't give a monkeys who anyone one votes for. It's their choice and it has to be respected.
Now go and toddle off and spout your Breakit bile elswhere

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
ďI think for a party leader to be so neutral on it is strange indeed. I think for any party leader to say ĎI am not taking a position on such thingsí is very strange, especially for a major party leader because itís not like theyíre a small party. Itís almost as if he canít bring himself to say it.

Colin Parry
Father of Tim Parry 12 yrs old
Murdered by The PIRA

Do you disagree with mr Parry?

This question is for WD and S&B

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3471)

"Do you disagree with mr Parry?"

I totally, 100% agree with Mr Parry.
Now, what has that got to do with the Labour party and Brexit?
You are taking it to the extreme now
You are totally out of order bringing those tragic events in to it to get your opinion across. Leave it out.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Look at the title of the thread

Posted by: lectriclegs (3806) Report abuse
Oops.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I think Corbyns gripe could be with the legitimacy of them being there and not the troops themselves?

Link

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
ZS is using any tool at his disposal to have a dig at the Labour party. It's eating away at him and he will stop at nothing to get his point across.
His hatred of it and the remain supporters is there for all to see on other threads. He is obsessed with it and will stoop to any level to get his point across .
I'm not getting involved with his agenda anymore.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
We must have been watching different videos.
You do Not critisise men who are laying down their lives for their country.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
S&B
Ok
Toddle off

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Who's deciding that they do and are they there legitimately.
I think his point is you can't have them laying down their lives on the whim of one person and parliamentry authority must be sought before doing so, or they could be seen to be there illegally?

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
"You do Not critisise men who are laying down their lives for their country."

People who disagreed with the UK's involvement in Iraq could argue that the troops were not "laying down their lives for their country." They were there, because they were ordered to be there.
Read up on the Chilcot inquiry.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/iraq-inquiry-key-points-from-the-chilcot-report

I have criticised people who have carried out violent acts, or condone violence, and will continue to do so.

I can find no justification for the Warington bombings, nor the events in Ballymurphy, or Londonderry.
if it is wrong: it is wrong. I hope that is clear enough.



Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I know they were there illegally,
It was one Anthony Lynton Blair and his dodgy dossier that sent them.
That's why his ire was directed at the servicemen.
Still, he is on record for condemning the British Army but has refused numerous times to condemn the terrorists of the PIRA

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
"People who disagreed with the UK's involvement in Iraq could argue that the troops were not "laying down their lives for their country." They were there, because they were ordered to be there"

They were not laying down their lives for their country because they were ordered there?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
So let's get this straight,
Any service man who has been ordered to a war zone hasn't laid down his life for his country.
Do you realise how pathetically stupid that sounds

I imagine anyone on this site who has relatives who have died in the two major Wars of the last century, and the more recent ones will appreciate you saying that they didn't lay down their lives for their country

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
My father fought in WW11, and he was fighting for his country.

Not all wars fought by British forces are fought to defend this country. Quite a few were fought for political reasons and the Iraq war was a classic example.

My country, right, or wrong, is not a strong moral argument.

Try to consider that opinion.

Posted by: tonker (20223)   Report abuse
P.M. Boris is thinking about sending S.A.S.troops over to Syria to bring back the children of ISIS fighters in a repatriation programme. Why?

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
Johnson, (Boris), is thinking ?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
WD
So is it your opinion that any British servicemen who died in say Iraq or Afghanistan, didn't lay down their lives for their country?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
There are no excuses for Corbyn no matter how people try to defend him, he is a traitor.

Makes no odds if our forces are fighting for this country or any political war elsewhere, they are deployed and go and do the job they are trained for, whether they agree with it or not. Most service men and women want to use the unique skills they have been trained in. A little respect is all they ask.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (4127) Report abuse


Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
He'll get more votes from the workshy if they think they have a chance to get back on invalidity benefits when he gets shut of universal credit. Never seen as many Lazarus's in Wigan when they had their benefits stopped, crutches thrown to one side, mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay. Yet they still make it on foot to the Moon Under The Water for an early morning pint. Don't say it ain't so cos I seen em and know a few.

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
does anyone from the left fully comprehend the damage corbyn's policies would do to the economy.
from being a young socialist i have gradually moved my politics more central/right,seeing the damage labour does when its in power.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
We now have a minister for homlessness and a minister for suicide prevention.
Link

Never remember us needing them in the past.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: TerryW

" mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay"

Do they not have to return them if they lose their benefits?
Surely they cant sell them if they don't own them?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
and how come labour clubs were always packed mornin noon and neet with the same folk each day well before the mobility scooter did any labour supporter actually do any work...

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Did you receive that Harley D you was crowing about a few months ago?

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
"WD
So is it your opinion that any British servicemen who died in say Iraq or Afghanistan, didn't lay down their lives for their country?"

They lost their lives, and many became disabled, due to the lies told by Blair.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Hypocrisy of the highest order laughing stock.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
What ?

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
he has,nt a clue chatty as he never moves out of his flat.who,s sas is it shearer & sheringham ? .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

Socrates

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
wd
My post was aimed at the guy who a few months ago was taunting the 'tax payers' on here that we would soon be 'buying' him a new motorcycle due to the benefits he claims, but than has the brass neck to post about 'labour supporters actually doing any work' and 'mobility scooters'

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
Thanks.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"They lost their lives, and many became disabled, due to the lies told by Blair."

They lost their lives or became disabled doing their job for this country. Stop trying to make it sound like an industrial accident. Those that died died for their country.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"posted by: TerryW

" mobility scooters unplugged and sold on ebay"

Do they not have to return them if they lose their benefits?
Surely they cant sell them if they don't own them?"

I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Getting back on track.

All those Corbyn cheerleaders have to face facts that he isn't well liked by the majority of people or his own party members, members who have publicly said he isn't fit to be the leader of the party let alone be PM.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
maybe they died ? .for all those right wing whingers what do you think about farrage,s £320,000 per annum from his EU mep spin-offs ? . hypocrite or wot.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"maybe they died ? .for all those right wing whingers"

Very respectful.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"what do you think about farrage,s £320,000 per annum from his EU mep spin-offs ?"

Goes with the job.

I seem to remember you saying just the same about Scargill the wannabee Tory on his fleecing the NUM for his £34,000 a year luxury flat he'd been keeping for 20 odd years when the NUM didn't know they were paying the rent.

Better still he applied for the £1 million property at a knock down price in 1993 under the Right To Buy scheme. THATCHERS right to by scheme.

No wonder the miners ended up on their arses with a leader like that, took them all up the river without a paddle and left the daft buggers there.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
You ask most ex service personnel why they signed up, and rarely do they mention serving their country.
Most fought for their mates.

For many it was a job, but too may paid a very high price.

Even now, they are partly reliant on charities for support, and that is a disgrace.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
goes with the job.your on the wrong horse as i,ve never said anything about our glorious leader arthur.the reason the miners were split was the introduction of a bonus scheme . we had a vote on it & voted to reject it by 2-1 & nationally by the same margin but they introduced it anyway , so much for democracy.you dont half put bad blogs on here .

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Well said whups .

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
chatty no i did'nt get the harley it would have left me short i did tho get a honda vtx 1800 a big v-twin for about half the price and more reliable out of the money i was left..

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"You ask most ex service personnel why they signed up, and rarely do they mention serving their country."

I don't need to ask.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
terry would you share a trench with these ****s? you'd need a steel plate for your back!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"goes with the job.your on the wrong horse as i,ve never said anything about our glorious leader arthur"

Oh yes you did when I posted about him and his luxury flat. Why do you never post about him taking two very large cuts from the Libyan donation one for £29,000 as a bridging loan and another £25,000 for his home improvements at his Yorkshire house, but he only gave £10,000 to the Notts miners. Not to mention the £1,000,000 Russian donation for the Welsh miners he hid away in an Irish bank until 12 months after the strike had ended, It almost made the Scots and Welsh miners to split from the NUM.

Why do you fail to posts this about that "glorious leader"? Stealing from men on the picket line that's some leader.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
LG, wouldn't share a tin of compo sausages with them let alone stand by them.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
out of the money i was left..

That was far from the implication you gave (or meant) with your post taunting tax payers for buying you a new motorcycle.

Meaning that's more weasel words from Wigan Worlds s number 1 hypocritical backtracker

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
chatty in what world do you live if you think i get enough benefits to buy new bikes

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
You made the post!
But we can cut to the chase by you telling us when you last had fulltime employment and how long you've had and how many bikes you've had since that time.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
easily i last worked in 2010 took voluntary redundancy i bought a bike 4 months before on credit card insurance paid it off and gave me just over 800 cash back as well,i sold that in 2011 and bought a bigger one i had that a few month and bought a crashed bike off ebay for 1020 pound did that up and sold the other one,in the meantime i got 4000 pound back off ppi i already had redundancy money, i kept the bike i paid 1020 for until june this year till i got my new un,im still waiting to be paid for my last bike,i dont drink or smoke...

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
Just need Eamonn Andrews now with his little red book. 🏍🏍🏍🏍

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
he did ask..not goin toneet then broady.

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
Snowed in. Just going to put the TV on and watch them trounce the Gunners.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: TerryW (1868)

"I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go."

Yes. They have to be returned.

In my opinion if a person has a mobility scooter on the mobility scheme then they genuinely need it.
If they were just after the benefits (PIP) then surely they would accept the cash rather than have a scooter hire taken out of their allowance?

A lot of people, including my next door neighbour buy their own.

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
chatty posts we now have a minister for homelessness and suicde prevention,he does not remember having them in the past.thats because we used to let them the homeless freeze to death , never knew anyone had mental health problems it was a taboo subject,discarded by yon mons round the bend..

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
bakers boy posts 'that's because we used to let the homeless freeze to death, never knew anyone had mental health problems it was a taboo subject'

And I suppose before foodbanks we use to let them starve to death?
'There's good within foodbbanks I think it's uplifting'....guess who?
Jacob Rees Mogg!

'mental health problems it was a taboo subject'.
17000 people have died whilst waiting for sick or welfare benefits under this goverment.
Now that is TABOO!

Forget what anyone tells you look for yourself.
Can anybody on here recall walking through Wigan during the day, 40/30/20 even 15 years ago and remember seeing doorway after doorway filled with sleeping bag after sleeping bag were people are living night after night?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
How many of thoses people are actually homeless.
Pretending to be homeless these days is very lucrative

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
I have been reading about the Labour Conference in Brighton last week. My observation , God help the UK if this Marxist/ Trotkisty and his mad mates ever come to power. Their policies would put the Country into poverty. What has happened to the once great Labour Party. It seems to have been taken over by supporters of nutters and terrorists. What a shame for a party that did so much for working people.

Posted by: stacker lee (320) Report abuse
Zanzibar Spangles, None of them are homeless!! Their butler brings them breakfast in bed every morning, Then he lays their rags out for the day. The chauffeur drives them to Wigan town centre (in the obligatory Mercedes) whereupon they get sit down outside Greggs with their paper cup and the good people of Wigan hand them fivers (always fivers)! I know this to be true because they have been seen counting said fivers in the pub before getting back into the Mercedes to be driven back to Homeless Mansions!

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
How many of thoses people are actually homeless.
Pretending to be homeless these days is very lucrative


You tell me you're the one disputing it?
Who's informing you it's 'lucrative pretending to be homeless these days'?
I am telling you what I see with my own eyes not what any newspaper or television tells me.
Yea I'm sure they've all got warm beds and homes to sleep in but prefer B&M bargains doorway.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I will concede though, one benefit claiment on here seems to have done quite well out of it over the past 10 years.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I know it's lucrative because quite a number of them have told me so.
They come into my shop all the time to change coins into notes (their dealers only take notes).

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
THERE SEEM'S TO BE A VERY BITTER AND JEALOUS MAN ON HERE,IT SEEM'S I GET SO MUCH IN BENEFITS HE CLAIMS I GET FREE BIKES...BWAHAHAHA

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I see it's more lucrative to be homeless sleeping in shop doorways than having a roof and warm bed.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
No jealousy on my part just pointing out more 'irony' from the bloke who's been on benefits for 10 years posting .......

and how come labour clubs were always packed mornin noon and neet with the same folk each day well before the mobility scooter did any labour supporter actually do any work...

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
They're not there at night in then shop doorways

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
Chatty I was going to work when I walked past the labour clubs and seeing the same folk in morning noon and neet oh and since I've been unemployed do you know the last time I had a neet out up Wigan? Well let me tell you August bank holiday 2010 believe it or not

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
have you ever asked yourself if those people your on about are retired or working night shift or on zero hour contracts? . are you blaming those people for the unemployment in this country ? .

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I think the 'irony' is the people 'who used to spend all day in the club when you was going to work" have now turned into the folk who use their money on WIFI and spend all day on the internet boasting about working people 'buying them a new bike', when I'm going to work.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I see, so the ones sleeping in the shop doorways (ie the homeless) are 'not there at night in then shop doorways'?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
just a typo, no need to punch the air,

No they are not in the shop doorways at night.
I am unfortunate enough to live close to their 'gaff' there a about half a dozen living there.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
not jealous or bitter yet keep bangin on...

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"Posted by: stacker lee (311)100+ Report abuse

Zanzibar Spangles, None of them are homeless!! Their butler brings them breakfast in bed every morning, Then he lays their rags out for the day. The chauffeur drives them to Wigan town centre (in the obligatory Mercedes) whereupon they get sit down outside Greggs with their paper cup and the good people of Wigan hand them fivers (always fivers)! I know this to be true because they have been seen counting said fivers in the pub before getting back into the Mercedes to be driven back to Homeless Mansions!"

Your wrong they get the train from Bolton, Manchester and Liverpool to come and do their work/begging. Then after a days graft off they go home to their flats/houses to copper up and visit their local dealer.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
New figures, just out today as it happens:

Link

I wonder how many of those 726 poor sods would tell you homelessness is 'lucrative'...if they were alive to do so!

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
chatty your not rushing to take any in i bet..

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
When I quoted figures from that esteemed Government Dept. recently they were roundly condemned on these pages. I donít remember the exact wording but it equated to ď nothing but Tory liesĒ

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I notice you're showing a bit more bravado towards homelessness now than the time you came on here and had a dry scriek because you thought you may be losing your flat due to the bedroom tax.

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Sickening far right rhetoric regarding the homeless..

Moronic tory twonks at play.Surprised your not all at M C bowing and scraping to your old etonian masters .

Pass the sick bag .

Well said chatty .

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
your the one championing the homelessness cause! do something about it take a few in or is it bluster your spouting?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I 'champion' the homeless cause by paying tax that goes towards supporting them. (and by not pretending they aren't out there)
You're the one with the spare bedroom because I vivedly remember you whining like a banshee on here that you may lose the roof over your head due to the bedroom tax, looks like you've had a change of tune on people living rough now that threat has passed

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
chatty plenty folk are homeless by choice and no i dont pretend they are not out there,most are druggies who have robbed their familys blind and been thrown out! they cant be trusted,the other reason is like it or not we have let too many immigrants in there are less homes coming free and when they do whos 1st in line? i dont see many immigrants in doorways do you?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
There's people on here who don't see anyone in doorways apparently.
The ones I've passed bedded down in the early hours are just about to pack up and go home by all accounts!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
WHUPS you seem to overlooked my post to you.

"Why do you never post about him taking two very large cuts from the Libyan donation one for £29,000 as a bridging loan and another £25,000 for his home improvements at his Yorkshire house, but he only gave £10,000 to the Notts miners. Not to mention the £1,000,000 Russian donation for the Welsh miners he hid away in an Irish bank until 12 months after the strike had ended, It almost made the Scots and Welsh miners to split from the NUM.

Why do you fail to posts this about that "glorious leader"? Stealing from men on the picket line that's some leader."

What is your take on this? Please don't say it's a fabricated story because it isn't it's well documented.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Be good Christians and take the homeless people in, give them a hot bath/shower clothe and feed them for as long as you wish, your tax will go towards others you are unable to take in so your safe there, plus you will actually be able to see exactly what your good deed has done for them.

Will you?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
if you do take any in dont expect them to be grateful nor expect them to be there when you awake, when you stumble down stairs expect a wide open door and a bare living room.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
What a steaming load of "Barry White".
Not all homeless people are drug addicts thieves or are there by choice.
Plenty are victims of circumstance, divorce, loss of a job, ex squaddies!
Yes those same squaddies who people earlier in this thread were telling us the British public should back them no matter what the circumstances or how they got there.
They get demobbed end up on the street and suddenly the same people are now denying they exist.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I'm not denying they exist they do. Like I said re-home them or make sure you take them to a refuge for the homeless, in the case of veterans contact the SSAFA team on 0800 731 4880 and give them their details.

They are very helpful not just for the homeless but also for their families.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I forgot to say you can if willing go to Molyneux House (The Hub) on School lane, Wigan with the details of the homeless vets. You never know who you may meet in there and they are always willing to help.

Wigan Council have an Armed Forces team to help as well. It's on their website.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
chatty wigan council find homes for immigrants easy enough yet can't for ex service people try asking them why you will be threatened with prosecution for being racist...

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
funny iv,e never seen it.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Chatty
After visiting an establishment on Wigan Lane I decided to have a stroll through the town centre I took a few photographs
You mentioned Home Bargains doorway

I didn't see any homeless people on the streets of Wigan,
not one
I can prove it

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Right that's conclusive, no homeless on the streets of Wigan then.
Best thing to do is forward it to the Brick Homeless Shelter project, inform them that you're onto their little scam (also could you ask them for the money back my daughter raised when she spent a group night on the streets a while back whilst you're in touch with them) and will be notifying the authorities, and hope to see them closed down by the end of the week.
If you could possibly post a picture of a clear blue sea whilst you're on a roll, we can put the 'there's too much plastic waste in our seas' malarky to bed once and for all as well!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
there ain't any in the shop doorways

"There's people on here who don't see anyone in doorways apparently.
The ones I've passed bedded down in the early hours are just about to pack up and go home by all accounts!"

"I see, so the ones sleeping in the shop doorways (ie the homeless) are 'not there at night in then shop doorways'?"

"Yea I'm sure they've all got warm beds and homes to sleep in but prefer B&M bargains doorway"

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse

So you are telling me the fact you have posted a photo of an empty shop doorway that in the past I have seen people sleeping rough in proves there are no homeless people in Wigan?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I stated that they weren't in the shop doorways at night.
This I know from person experience.
I also know categorically that there are a group of people pretending to be homeless because I know them, I know where they live and I see them regular in the town centre, begging.
But it's your hard earned, if you want to finance their habit, that's your business

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I stated that they weren't in the shop doorways at night.

So you are telling me no one is or has ever slept rough overnight
in shop doorways in Wigan town centre?

Ps. I don't recall posting that I was 'financing anybodys habit'?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I can't say nobody has ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan like you can't say nobody has ever done naked cartwheels down Standish gate at 3am.
But I didn't see one person sleeping rough last night in Wigan town centre

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Oh and I didn't say you were financing anyone's habit.
Read it properly

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Well said, s+b, I thought it would have been common sense to "some people" that they buy there own scooters

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"Posted by: Salmon & Ball (290) View Salmon & Ball's page100+ Report abuse

Posted by: TerryW (1868)

"I'm sure they are supposed to be returned but some seem to get "allegedly" stolen from outside pubs, supermarkets etc, an official crime police number is obtained and away you go."

Yes. They have to be returned.

In my opinion if a person has a mobility scooter on the mobility scheme then they genuinely need it.
If they were just after the benefits (PIP) then surely they would accept the cash rather than have a scooter hire taken out of their allowance?

A lot of people, including my next door neighbour buy their own."

Having the scooter gives them more credit for their disability when they go for medical revues so they choose that option, the person who lives near me had one for years until the shake up, now the person walks everywhere and signs on at Brocal House. Apparently they "genuinely needed" the scooter for all those years and disability benefits that went along with it, It wasn't unknown for that person to visit the local betting shop and pub without the scooter. Two to three holidays a years while others went to work to pay for all this.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
There bound to keep all there allowance and buy a cheap scooter

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I'm glad we agree then that you 'can't say nobody has ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan'.

Oh and what in my posts made you think I would want to use my 'hard earned' to 'finance anyones habit'?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
terry what about MPs 70,000+ a year who dont need to spend their wages as everything is claimed on expenses and are even given a 2nd home if they live more than 20 mile than london! they are worse than any benefit cheat..

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Seems to have it in for people on disability benefit

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I agree LG, it's a disgrace. But it doesn't help when people are pulling their guts out to bring up a family and pay rent or a mortgage when they can see their workshy neighbours living the high life by cheating the benefit system they also give a very bad name to the genuine disabled who need that money just to live any sort of normal life.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Is that the ones you said don't get up until supper time?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
terry thats always been the case i'm afraid time after time we are told crime does not pay but theres plenty out there very rich because of it and they are not all the typical wrong un either,and as for the bad back brigade that been around for donkeys iv'e known people who never worked since leaving school,having said that iv'e always said i does not matter how much somebody else has it wont change my life so i dont worry about it,if nowt else terry those in work can take pride in earning what they do,never be bitter about other people getting things as you cant change it, no it isnt fair but has life ever been fair? be grateful with what you've got

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
so you are castigating people who arnt working are you laughing boy so lets look at the last time you worked then . this is part of your reply further up this blog --------- easily i last worked in 2010 took voluntary redundancy i bought a bike 4 months before on credit card insurance paid it off and gave me just over 800 cash back as well,i sold that in 2011 and bought a bigger one i had that a few month and bought a crashed bike off ebay for 1020 pound did that up and sold the other one,in the meantime i got 4000 pound back off ppi i already had redundancy money.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
where have castigated anybody but MPs idiot?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: TerryW (1885)

"Having the scooter gives them more credit for their disability when they go for medical revues so they choose that option,"

I don't think so. Credibility does not come into it.
The fact that they are in receipt of benefits is enough evidence to say they have passed the criteria, interviews, medical checks etc and therefore they are entitled to whatever they are allowed.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
But the person I mentioned in my post passed the medical criteria and was awarded all the benefit. Like many others they duped the doctors or whoever and cheated genuine people.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
How can you dupe a doctor?
How can you falsify medical reports?
How can you be entitled to any benefit without conclusive evidence that proves your eligibility?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
All these people passed all "criteria, interviews, medical checks etc"

Take your pick then explain how this came about.

LINK

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Chatty
In much the same way as I can't say no one has ever cartwheeled naked down standishgate.
Unlikely but not impossible

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"How can you dupe a doctor?
How can you falsify medical reports?
How can you be entitled to any benefit without conclusive evidence that proves your eligibility?"

How can they be jailed/fined for doing what you imply can't be done?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Which doctor examined and passed this guy unfit and disabled, he had conclusive evidence and medical reports. How can he "carry his hefty £4,295 mobility scooter up five steps to his one bedroom Bournemouth flat - paid for by the taxpayer Ė for the last two years."

These aren't isolated cases, there is/was an epidemic of workshy cheats. Many brought to rights by the benefit shake up.



LINK

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Blame the powers that be.
They make the decisions, not the patient.
Its a bit like a sport referee.
They make the final decision, and you abide by that

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
But you say the powers that be can't be duped.

Make your mind up.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
terry on the other hand theres plenty of cases where proffesionals have struck very ill and dying folk off all for government shilling...

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Of course there are, LG. I'm just pointing out the disgusting practise of pretending to be disabled by able bodied people who are workshy. Why anyone would want to be disabled is beyond me, but the monetary factor for these types outweigh the moral factor.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
terry i know what your saying,was'nt there a helpline where you phone and report benefit cheats? i wonder how successful it was and how many used it? now i'm not suggesting you use it or you would as we all moan about folk getting this and getting that,but when it comes down it,we dont like getting folk in trouble so what do we do..moan

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: TerryW
"Make your mind up."

It was already made up!
The powers that be make the final decision!
They have not been "duped", they have made the wrong decision. They are human after all. Nobody is perfect

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
No. They have been duped by unscrupulous thieves, which doesn't say much for the examining doctors.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
LG, I have no problem in reporting anyone for doing wrong.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Maybe people get better with treatment and are then deemed to be fit enough for work?
Hence, they lose their mobility benefits.
Just a thought

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
" They are human after all. Nobody is perfect"

But when they make an obvious error and say someone is fit for work when they patently aren't they become a bunch of Tory tossers.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
I'm on about the medical experts, not the tory bunch.
We all know tories make mistakes.
Its a well known fact, especially with recent events

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
I meant the medical experts become Hunt's Gestapo or similar.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Great point, Broady.
I could not agree more
They are not all.....
"unscrupulous thieves," as terryw described them
There are a lot of genuine people, with genuine medical issues who have lost benefits due to the "Gestapo" as you described them

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Look we all know I'm on about the workshy and not the genuine people on benefits, they are all unscrupulous thieves. Yes their treatment is usually someone dobbing them in and rightly so.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Chatty
In much the same way as I can't say no one has ever cartwheeled naked down standishgate.
Unlikely but not impossible


So you find it "unlikely" anyone as ever slept rough in a shop doorway in Wigan?

naked

cartwheels

The figure would be much higher but for charitable organisation's like the aforementioned Brick Homeless Shelter

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
So where are they at night?
There are plenty during the day, but where are they at night

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3490)

"I didn't see any homeless people on the streets of Wigan,
not one
I can prove it"

I was in Chelmsford last week for a couple of hours. I never saw a policeman. Does that that mean they don't exist?
I also walked pass the taxi rank and I never saw a taxi.
do they not exist either?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
They don't exist in the shop doorways of wigan at night

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
The ones when I have seen them.......... In shop doorways!
But thanks to organisations like the Brick who are working hard in finding them emergency beds there are a lot less than would be otherwise!
I know it must be a subject close to your heart or else you wouldn't have gone out in the middle of the night and taken a photo of an empty shop doorway but to suggest seeing someone sleeping rough in a shop doorway at night is as likely as seeing someone cartwheel naked down Standishgate is just wrong!

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Ok then prove they don't exist!!!!!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Passing thru the town centre anyway as I do most nights.
This is a favoured spot during the day

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
As is this

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
And.....?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
And.....?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Well you said they were sleeping rough in the town centre.
I have proved you wrong

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Eh
You've showed me two photos, one shop doorway and a shot of Berkley Square.



Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I could show you more but it wouldn't make any odds. Those are the places they occupy during the day.

Where do they go at night?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Me thinks if you are showing photos to 'prove' people aren't sleeping in shop doorways.... you are only going to show empty doorways.

I have seen people sleeping in shop doorways during the night in Standishgate.
The fact they may or may not be there on any given night does not mean I did not see them with my own eyes, and that they have never been there.
As already stated the Brick are working hard to get such people off the street thank goodness.

Now we could go around in circles all night Anthony but I'm sure anyone familar with Wigan town centre in the evening in recent times is quite capable of making their own minds up on the subject.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I come thru the town centre almost every night.
I know for a fact.

I'll ask again, since they have sleeping bags and all their trankelments, they seem to be there for the night but when the night comes, they are gone.
Where?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I haven't a clue what happens to your daylight 'trankelments' brigade.
I can only comment on the ones I've seen sleeping in doorways in Standishgate, I think they are the same one's mentioned in the two links I posted reporting record numbers of rough sleepers in the Wigan area, unless of course they are completely wrong as well, and there as never ever been a rough sleeper in a Wigan shop doorway as you'd have us believe!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I ain't seen any

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
You don't say
I'm off to bed (not in a shop doorway fortunately)
I usually rise around 6.45, so if you shoot off now imagine how many empty shop doorways you can photograph and post before then to 'prove' there has never ever been a rough sleeper in a shop doorway in Wigan.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Sorry you aren't good at comprehension.
Diddums
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow being proved wrong, but it's ok for you to feel that way.
Now toddle off to bed an get a good nights sleep.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Eh.
No more 'evidence'?
I even got up 10 minutes early in anticipation!

'proved wrong'

Two photos of empty shop doorways and .... 'I aint seen any'.. isn't proof of anything.

As stated earlier I'll let other people make their minds up that, in a day and age were we need a minister for homelessness and one for suicide in a borough with nearly 300,000 people in it, and after reports of record rough sleepers in that borough by several different organisations, the chances of seeing rough sleepers in shop doorways is as "likely as seeing someone doing naked cartwheels down Standishgate".

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
TerryW (1895)1,000+ Report abuse

LG, I have no problem in reporting anyone for doing wrong.

Now why does that not surprise me

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Wigan homeless outreach

The team have been out this evening in Wigan feeding and clothing the homeless

Every Wednesday from 6.30pm till 7.30pm

Weldone to the whole team

Homeless Aid UK

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Have you a link for that info on feeding and clothing the homeless please.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
link

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
link

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
bb , very commendable , good work team

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Ta!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Chatty
When I say I didn't see a single person sleeping rough, are you in some way calling me a liar?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Good link, Basil. Thanks for bringing the plight of the homeless in Wigan to peoples attention.

Well done to the whole team, indeed

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
No I'm saying the fact YOU didn't see anyone sleeping rough isn't proof positive that people aren't or never have.

There's a bit of a dispute here about the actual figures for rough sleepers, give them a bell and tell them they're are both wrong it's actuall ziltch.
Link

I honestly believe your Donald Trump fake news school of reasoning: "I've not seen it so it isn't/ didn't/hasn't' happened wont catch on.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Particularly Amanda and Elaine who work tirelessly for the genuinely homeless,
My wife has been out with them helping on a number of occassions.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
It's easy if you want to try to prove me wrong.
Go into the town centre after 11:30pm with your phone and photograph them.
Make sure your connected(meta data to corroborate the time etc)

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
EH.. the genuinely homeless..

Where did they suddenly appear from?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
@ZS.

Maybe they helped them out of the B&M doorway prior to you taking the photo?
Just a thought.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I don't have to prove anybody wrong your the one in rabid denial, I'm just telling you what I've seen with my own eyes and have posted numerous links confirming it.
You're free to believe whatever you like!

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
this is getting quite boring. He said , she said , he said . Move on

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Your welcome s+b

I agree aussie, they've been started by someone who only comes on to post crappy politics.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse

I travel through the town centre every night and there are no rough sleepers at 11:30,
not because I don't think anyone isn't homeless in Wigan but because they aren't there.
I know there are homeless people in wigan but they are not sleeping rough in the town centre.
Some buffoons on here are conflating beggers with the homeless which in my veiw
does more damage than help.
Beggars portray themselves as being homeless for obvious reasons,
not obvious to everyone but there you go

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
ZS. Do you look in every doorway, nook and cranny?
Or do you just walk up the main drag?

Do you check the local park? Do you check derelict buildings? Do you check the local bus station? Do you check anything apart from two doorways?

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Just viewed your link basil .

Real good post .

Well done .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
I seem to recall that a little while back you posted on here defending J C and how the tories were demonising him OR have i got that completely wrong.?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
You have got it absolutely correct, I've seen how erroneous I was

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
The biggest buffon on here is the guy who is trying to tell me that things I have seen with my own eyes, I didn't actually see!

I haven't a clue what his motivation is!

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3508)

Chatty
"When I say I didn't see a single person sleeping rough, are you in some way calling me a liar?"

Is he in some way calling you a liar, Chatty?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Never once alluded to what he'd seen or not seen, just relating my personal experiences.
Please learn to comprehend what you are reading

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Please learn how to take proper photographs
Try and post one what is actually visible instead of posting photos what look like when the window cleaner has padded the window and forgot to put the blade and scrim on it

Unless my monitor screen needs cleaning?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Your screen needs cleaning

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
I cant see them on here.
Ive just downloaded it and its as clear as a bell
Pity its a load of your propaganda bull though

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Some people do get worked up on the net.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
You're not joking, now they're trying to disparage my photos,
as if the quality makes any difference.
I plead guilty

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
To not being David Bailey

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Erroneous you say .

Hypocritical i would say .Who needs enemies etc etc.

A complete U turn.

Chatty and S & B have you by the balls .

Throw in the towel pal .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
No they haven't

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Speaking of u turns what about this meeting with corbyn you were gobbing off about.
Ha ha ha

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
READ my post soft knob.Ha ha ha.

When he is in my area you will have the opportunity to ask him what you like .

Lets see if you have the balls to ask in a room of people who will be waiting to campaign with him .

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
threat alert.common admin.thats a poor ,poor post.
the argument as been well and truly lost.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
🙂

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Personal insults, I love em, shows they lost the argument.
Very eager to meet Corbyn, I have a few corkers for him



Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
A Russian spy,
an IRA sympathiser
and a racist
walk into a bar one evening,
the barman say's,
"Good evening Mr Corbyn,
the usual is it?"

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Posted by: baker boy (14672)10,000+ Report abuse
threat alert.

Kipling, out say about Terry Tiny Tears when he/she says "always willing a visit!?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I've had a visit this morning, it was very nice.

I love a visit me because I'm a very nice man.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
I no Terry Tiny Tears is all mouth, kipling, but you seem to have forgot to mention about him coming the big i am and being nasty

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
"Lets see if you have the balls to ask in a room of people who will be waiting to campaign with him"

Intimidation eh,
the implied threat of violence,
how very Labour

I'll still be there

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Posted by: basil brush (12206)10,000+ Report abuse

I no Terry Tiny Tears is all mouth, kipling, but you seem to have forgot to mention about him coming the big i am and being nasty

Replied: 5th Oct 2019 at 11:15

Oh dear he must have got out the wrong side of the bed this morning to be losing it so early. Must be an old age thing.

Oh and it's I 'know' not No.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
No, just stating facts, unless of course it was somebody else who posted, the posts that i posted

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Not good at your age all this worrying about me and losing it every time I post.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Why would i be worried about a nasty, all mouth, cowardly keyboard warrior who i despise?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Oh dear, is there no one there to help you calm down.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Again, just stating a fact.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I'll leave that with you at this point, I can feel see the anger is getting the better of you.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
That's it.....run away🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
No I'm still here, just not engaging with you why you are so stressed.

Wrong shirt.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Well if people see a big man with a daft top on, similar to this, they'll no it's you

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
walshy you say he/she is willing to visit,you frightened of a woman,you should be, you have annoyed enough of them if not all.your missus must be the opposite of yourself, she must be angelic ?.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Now Corbyn wants all the bloody Sunday veterans to face prosecution.
Who next?
The servicemen who landed on thr beaches of Normandy?
This traitorous tosser has criticised everyone but the IRA.

Posted by: Pi Eta (12) Report abuse
Margaret Thatcher - The Iron Lady
Tony Blair - Teflon Tony
John Prescott - Two Jags
Jeremy Corbyn - Buzz Lightyear (He does not know which planet he is on)

Boy, I would hate to think I had Corbyn behind me backing me up in a battle when fighting for my country.

Posted by: stacker lee (320) Report abuse
Pi Eta, You missed one out:

Boris Johnson - Top Sha**er!!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Or Boris 'the listener'

Posted by: stacker lee (320) Report abuse
Zanzibar, That's a little bit too unctuous, even for you!!

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
But he is listening

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
He's a do'er too despite the obstacles been thrown in front of him to hold things up further.

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
these people coming out of the woodwork to accuse boris of everything from the spanish inquisition to being pol pots right hand man.
wonder when nick the police informer ,now rightfully in prison will claim boris raped me.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
you missed another one out BORIS THE LIAR.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Call him anything you like,
as long as he gets us out

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
So sad the division , fix it wont way or tohher

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
whups the slip
you meant boris the tryer.folk voted out, he's been trying to fulfil their wish,pity the back trackers aka the labour party did not live up to the same ideal,backing the people wishes.
they did say they would, but their just LIARS.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
your the type of guy baker boy who would sell everyone down the river just to get brexit through . how would you like to face those workers at the nippon factory or halewood & say to them that you dont care if they lose their jobs because you want to leave at any price . you would run a mile.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Who's said they are going to lose their jobs?

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
The boss of Nissan.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
The boss of Nissan uses the word "could" an awful lot.

"No Deal Brexit could put our whole European business in jeopardy"

"Could Force Closure Of Sunderland Car Plant, Warns Nissan Boss".

Which means he doesn't know.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
I think he's got a better idea than anyone else.

Wishful thinking doesn't put food on the table.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Your thinking he's got a better idea than anyone else doesn't mean much either, so you both have no idea.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
He's the boss. You are not.

Think I'll go with the organ grinder.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
But he has no clue to what will happen. Neither do you, if you did both of you would say 'will' and not "could".

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
The only thing that will change after brexit is a bunch of greedy tossers will have to find another trough

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
there just ququeing up to leave & nissan has just scrapped the night shift causing more money loss for their workers. the french at halewood have been looking for an ecuse for the last 18months to leave & have already stated that they will look elsewhere if there is no deal.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
They'll stay

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
NOT A CHANCE & they wont be on their own.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
We'll see

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
At the expense of many a people's livelihood.

Very reckless with other's future.
Still to read of any economic benefits to leaving except sunny uplands. Trade deal with Trump ?

This government's calculation of the extra cost of no deal:
15 billion per annum. Look a the James O'Brien video with the Brit leaver living in Portugal.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
It's called project fear, blame it all on brexit

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
Now you're sounding like Trump.

Any facts you don't like, (these are THIS government facts), is PF. Is that said when you stick your fingers in your ears and scream la la la ?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Go speak to a trawler man about industrial genocide, ask him what the common fisheries policy has done for his industry.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
At the expense of peoples livelihoods

Posted by: gaffer (6205)   Report abuse
Whups

There arenít any French car companies in Halewood. They operate over the water at Ellesmere Port.
The Nissan Qashqai is in a market segment, Crossover SUVs, that is falling in popularity. Itís sales are down by 15%, two of itís main rivals, the VW Tiguan and the French Peugeot 3008, are down by 18%.
Hence the decision to go to double day shift working in lieu of the night shift.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Gaffer he doesn't want the truth he only wants what he makes up in his head.

Posted by: wigandiver (149) Report abuse
"Go speak to a trawler man about industrial genocide, ask him what the common fisheries policy has done for his industry."

Have a guess where the catches of in-shore fishermen go to. ?

It isn't the UK.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
i meant coventry . funny you never mentioned nissan ? .

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Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
oh no whups its another slip up,the frenchmen at halewood,is it a pub.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
dont worry when it happens you cant all crawl back in your holes .

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Absolutely spot on whups.
Tosser Terry using a pic of George is a complete and utter disgrace .

Vile dosnt begin to describe .

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
he lied about that too grim.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Stop crying about me and George you Muppets and concern yourselves with how you come across on WW one who's as thick as two short planks and the other a dirty old man who's obsessed with male private parts.

I can do as I please when and where I want to.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
TTT, seems to like being associated with violence.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Isn't it a shame for him.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
he cant fight his way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I can move about though.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Agree, whups

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
How do you know?

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
I think, whups, more people are finding out what he's truly like

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
They all know what you are, people have been saying it for years about you. Well before I joined.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Despite him trying to cover his tracks.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
my mate fireplace told me exactly wot he,s like & he,s still not paid a penny in tax from 1982.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I don't know anyone called Fireplace you pleb.

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Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
you wont do as he died last july.fireplace worked on tha taxis with him.and dont call me a pleb you disrespectful b**tard

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Then why say he told you about me, pleb?

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Well said, whups, nasty coward when he doesn't get his own way.

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
nasty coward when he does not get his own way,wow,you really are two faced walshy.most posters on here whether members of the gang ,nasty uns or just them lot, would side with that comment being a truly deserving description of you walshy.

Posted by: whups (4285)   Report abuse
your name was never mentioned . it was 1stroke .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
"Have a guess where the catches of in-shore fishermen go to. ?

It isn't the UK."


And how is this relevant

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Warning anyone clicking the link below will see a photo of a homeless person sleeping rough at the top of town. This image seems to have upset some people (strangely only the people who denied they existed, but that's another story) so I have put it in 'link' form.
The same link form I used above for some newspapers headlines reporting on the homeless of Wigan.
They also had photos showing homeless people but for some reason they didn't seem to upset anyone.(Yet again that's another story)

link

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
My thoughts are it would take about 30 seconds to stage this image

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
How long did it take you to stage yours, Spangled?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Why the hell would someone want to 'stage this image'?

Is that your best?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Looks like he did, Chatty. When he took the photos.
He must think everybody is the same as him.

Seems like he is speaking with experience.
Probably took 10 seconds to stage his.

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Chatty ,s n b .

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I took that photo with my own phone this morning whilst walking home after a night out.
The lad I was with can verify nothing was staged, I have a shot of another one on Wallgate but he was sat up and begging so haven't posted in case he was a 'fake homeless' as you call them.
I would stand up in any court of law in the land and swear it isn't faked as well as on my childrens lives.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Why didn't you take him home for a warm and a good feed?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Why don't you?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I wasn't there. But do carry on taking photos instead of helping. Very caring.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Can't say fairer than that, Chatty.

You can't debate with someone like spangled.
The person is totally blinkered and oblivious to whats going on. He just spouts his vile fake propoganda on here

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I left him some money.
The fact I acknowledge they exist is a bit further down the road than some on here!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Salve your conscience did it that donation when you went and got in your warm bed while he/she was left with a few quid in the cold doorway.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
No it didn't, and that isn't the point as you well know.
I took some photos to prove beyond doubt homless people are sleeping in shop doorways at night.
I wouldn't have taken any photos if someone on here hadn't posted some of empty doorways to try and somehow show they aren't.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
What would you have done, Terence?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I understand your point exactly, Chatty, point scoring with photos. Charitable indeed, I suspect the point scoring on here being of an higher priority though.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I hope he/she likes their plight being shown all over the place just for your gratification.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
I'll ask you again.

Just out of curiosity.

What would you have done, Terence?
Something. Or, nothing?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Deary me.
Would you rather I delete them and pretend I hadn't seen them.
I will if you want, it obviously bothers you more that I have evidence of homelessness in the town centre than any concern for said homeless!

On your 'points scoring' jibe, I have noticed you're having a bit of a 'mare' on here at the moment.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I don't give a monkeys about having a 'mare' on here it's swings and roundabouts and means nothing in the main really.

Leave it on and show the world how low some people will go to get a point across. Me I would hang my head in shame after such a stunt, still you left him/her some money, how big of you.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
"I don't give a monkeys.."
You brought points scoring up not me?

how low some people will go?

There's nothing as low as denying they exist.
I've taken a photo not urinated on someone.

Think it's you peeing in the wind on this one Tez.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I'm not the one going out of my way to find homeless people in town to take photos of them then walking away all smug because you have got the evidence and leaving a few quid. What was you thinking when snapping the poor bugger? You certainly didn't give a toss about him/her. You had probably been wetting yourself all day with the thought of getting your Big Reveal on WW. So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal, but this photographing of the homeless for your own ego is disgusting. There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I'm not the one going out of my way to..
Go on remind us all how far out of my way I went?

".walking away all smug.."
I didn't realise you was there at the time checking my demeanor.

"..leaving a few quid.."
YOU asked ME what I had done for the guy, I didn't proffer that information!


"So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal",
What's yesterdays story got to do with it, must still be a bit raw for you to bring it up again!

"There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action."
I don't have to justify anything to anyone, least of all you!

Your feigned indignation would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassing!

I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards!

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
@ Chatty
Well typed.
You are one intelligent guy
If I ever need anyone to represent me, you have the job

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Top top post Chatty .

Superbly constructed and not least oozing eloquence .

You have him up the proverbial creek without a paddle .

If he had a brain he would throw in the towel .

Well said s n b .

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I don't know about that S&B, grimshaw, but when I have seen something with my own eyes so know for a fact it's 100% true, and then have someone telling me I haven't and it's not (for whatever reason in this case I haven't a clue) I would always stand my ground like anybody else would.

Posted by: Stardelta (6993) Report abuse
Still making friends and influencing people I see Terry?




What a not-reet!




Are you sure it's not those voices in your head?

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Star d .

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Beltin post chatty, blitzed him AGAIN

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Nothing you did helped the person on the street least of all taking a photo of the poor sod. Then to post it on WW for your own gratification and point score is beneath contempt. like I said salve your concision by handing out a few quid and posting your excuse on here. I'm sorry the truth hurt you so much but there you go. There was no need for you to take that photo except to do what you have done. Why didn't you take him home for a warm meal and shelter? Because you don't really care that is the truth, you needed to prove to a few on WW that people sleep rough in town and that was your motive nothing more. Give yourself a big pat on the back.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I have to say as a regular, passing through the town centre almost every night, I have never seen anyone in that or any other location.
Where there anymore in the town centre or just this lone 'sleeper'?
presumably if there were, you would have photographed them also.
And as you know I'm in the town centre a lot at night,
I'll keep an eye out for him

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Tell him him he's famous, ZS, courtesy of very well meaning Samaritan who stopped to snap him in his happy abode.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse

"I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards"

Absolutely

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I wonder who the guy was reflected in the shop window?

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Posted by: chatty (6866) View chatty's page5,000+ Report abuse
I'm not the one going out of my way to..
Go on remind us all how far out of my way I went?

You stopped to take a snap that's far enough.

".walking away all smug.."
I didn't realise you was there at the time checking my demeanor.

Your action is enough to warrant that comment.

"..leaving a few quid.."
YOU asked ME what I had done for the guy, I didn't proffer that information!

I asked why didn't you take him home for a warm and feed you replied Why don't you? and later I left him money.

"So I cocked up with a meeting date, big deal",
What's yesterdays story got to do with it, must still be a bit raw for you to bring it up again!

You stated you had notice I was having a 'Mare' on here.

"There is no excuse for this no matter how much you try to justify your action."
I don't have to justify anything to anyone, least of all you!

There is no justification for this!


Your feigned indignation would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassing!

Your feigned concern for the homeless isn't embarrassing is it? 'I'll take a photo of this poor sod sleeping rough'that's real concern.

I bet you're mate Spangler is well chuffed with you keeping this thread at the top of the boards!

Apparently he is.


Your main concern was to post that photo on WW and you know it and it's wrong.


Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Deary me lads you need to let it go it's over, you're just heaping more embarrassment on yourselves, the knockout blow came yesterday, no point you climbing off the canvas today and start flailing your arms about George Formby like.

I wonder who the guy was reflected in the shop window?
I told you yesterday Tony I took the photo, so I'll let you figure it out.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
What are you twittering on about, 'knockout blow'
Good grief, triumphalism were there is none

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3556) [2,500+] Report abuse

"I have to say as a regular, passing through the town centre almost every night,"

Do you work at macdonalds


Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
I think the knockout blow was when some scumbag stopped to take a photo of a man/woman sleeping rough to post on WW and eased his conscience with a bit of cash.

Still I can walk away from this feeling good for pointing out the disrespectful act whereas you know what you did was nothing more than an act of getting one over to prove a point.

I really think you should remove that photo for the sake of the person on the floor, that is if you really have any feelings.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Is that like the scumbag on here who was laughing at someone who had a breakdown?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
No. The one who took a photo of a poor sod sleeping rough to make a point.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Why MacDonalds?
not that it's relevant why I pass through the town centre, clearly looking to disparage me personally

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
What about spangles who also went to take a photo of a "poor sod sleeping rough" but there was no one there!
Anything to say about that, Terence?

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Or the scumbag on here who came out with nasty personal comments when he/she first came on here?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3557) [2,500+] Report abuse

"Why MacDonalds? "

Ok. Iceland?

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Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
What about spangles who also went to take a photo a "poor sod sleeping rough" but there was no one there!
Anything to say about that, Terence?


I took pics of empty shop doorways.
Because I knew in advance they would be empty

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Way off but still irrelevent

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Yes I have a lot to say...there was no one there you fool.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I think the knockout blow when some scumbag stopped to take a photo of a man/woman sleeping..

More feigned indignation.
I posted links to newspaper reports of the growing homeless crisis in Wigan early on in this thread which contained photos of people sleeping rough...yet not a peep out of you!

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
osted by: TerryW (2220)1,000+ Report abuse

Yes I have a lot to say...there was no one there you fool

crybaby is getting nasty AGAIN

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
But I would like to think he would have had the dignity not to take snaps if there had been someone there.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
He wouldn't have taken any had there been someone there.
If so, he would have been hoisted by his own petard so to speak

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Your very good at pointing out the obvious, and I think he would have fathomed that out.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
y: TerryW (2224)1,000+ Report abuse

But I would like to think he would have had the dignity not to take snaps

You didn't have any dignity when you "first" came on here.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles
It's easy if you want to try to prove me wrong.
Go into the town centre after 11:30pm with your phone and photograph them.
Make sure your connected(meta data to corroborate the time etc)

Replied: 3rd Oct 2019 at 13:15


And Terry that's exactly what I did!
If offended take it up with your mate Spangler!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Well that says it all, good job he didn't tell jump off the parish church isn't it.


Take the photo off.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Leave it on and show the world how low some people will go..

You seemed to have changed your tune from yesterday.
Anyhow to save you anymore feigned indignation I have put it in link form with a warning.

Now if you could asked your mate Spangles to do the same with his empty shop doorways photos, because misleading people into thinking there are no homeless people sleeping rough in the town centre offends me!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Empty shop are offending anyone. Yes I did change my mind for the sake of the person and believe me there was nothing feigned, you should have had more sense than to do that, what was you thinking you knew it was wrong.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
for the sake of the person..
What sake?
The person's unidentifiable, You've already made clear you don't know if it's an he or she!
It's just more feigned indignation from you Tez!


Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3560)

"I took pics of empty shop doorways.
Because I knew in advance they would be empty"

Lend me that crystal ball
Whats the numbers for this weeks euromillions?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Tell you what chatty, I will meet you in wigan town centre tomorrow, late, and well
see who's sleeping rough and who isn't.
Quite a few people on here know me personally and know I don't bullshit,
Are you up for a stroll round the town?

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
But you know in advance?
So what is the point of Chatty turning up?

"Quite a few people on here know me personally and know I don't bullshit,"

And Quite a lot of people don't know you?
Myself included. So I think you are full of bull on this topic

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Well he can put up or shut up

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
In fact I'll get him a couple of G&Ts in the Moon and well monitor the market place

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
This is getting quite repetitive and boring. Must be in front as most boring thread of the year. let it go folks, you have made your points . Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
You're not kidding aussie this thread was done and dusted days ago...but!

Well he can put up or shut up

EH I think you'll find I have already "put up"!
(with photograph evidence, yes that's the same "photographic evidence" you was happy to use to have us believe it wasn't happening)
Now I can see you are crestfallen, a quick look back through the thread tells us you went "all in" on this one, but you turned out to be wrong and I can see it's hard for you to accept!
"Tell you what chatty, I will meet you in wigan town centre tomorrow, late, and well see who's sleeping rough and who isn't" (Eh again)

There's no need for me to go one step out of my way, just like I didn't on Saturday, (but like you did initially)the proof is on here for all to see, you need to get over it!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Still trying to justify your deplorable action, Chatty?

You knew when you were taking the photo it was wrong didn't you?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Once again, no need for me to 'justify' anything.
I have "put up", all it needs now is for a few people to "shut up" and we can all move on.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Agree aussie, same ones with nothing else better to do.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Obviously can't 'put up' that's fine with me

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
So boring

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Agree, I bet "some people" can't wait to get up in a morning so they can get straight on here,

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Obviously can't 'put up' that's fine with me

Yea, that's probably the best you're going to come out of this one.
Me putting up a photo and you being fine with me not 'putting up'

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Double bubble!


(May as well use the space)
I think they call it damage limitation!
Honestly though mate, you really do need to let it go.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Yes you and chatty were both on here before me

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
walshy
you posted,same one's with nothing else better to do.
regarding the longevity of this topic.
hell man you go on longer than a siberian winter and just as bitter.
walshy's reply to this post,eh up kipling's on again causing trouble.another bad un and gang member.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Btw no rough sleepers in TC last night

Posted by: broady (15249)   Report abuse
Walshy,
Up to Press you have made 28 of the 361 comments on this topic. If they are up to your normal comments you probably havenít contributed anything of substance. This despite only joining in half way through the comments.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2521)  Report abuse
.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Btw no rough sleepers in TC last night

God loves a trier

Now if only the debate had been about 'rough sleepers in the TC last night' imagine how much happier you'd have felt today


Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Have a heart chatty .

You are giving the pair of them a real battering .
They clearly are well punch drunk.
Reminds me again of what the great Ali said when he had fought Joe Frazier.
" He is so easy to hit he got mad when i missed him."

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
grimshaw instead of suckholin get that meeting with corbyn

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Honestly grimshaw, I've heard stories of people being in denial about something, but this is beyond ludicrous.
The daftest thing is though if they'd keep quite the thread would drop down the boards and be old news!


Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I like it right at the top

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Meeting with Corby? don't make me laugh

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Corbyn won't be up for a meet after the roasting Boris gave him yesterday, I liked the bit about him backing the enemies of Britain.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Conscience is an open wound isn't it Chatty and when it pricks...

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Very profound Tez.

I trust the deniers amongst us have had theirs well and truly pricked.

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
Here we go again all good friends and jolly good company. Not

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
If something doesn't interest you best just to ignore it, whilst refraining from the profanities!

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
What profanities pls

Posted by: aussie94 (2311) Report abuse
chatty , your picture sum s you up . Cobber

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I'm suprised you recognised the picture with your sense of humour bypass!

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"You're not kidding aussie this thread was done and dusted days ago...but!" I like to perpetuate a situation.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Bit rich from the guy who resurrected it again this morning.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Ta Da!

I'm allowed, I'm not bothered if its over or not. Mind that open wound.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
You certainly are allowed, it was just the fact you aimed a post at me that informed me things are still a bit raw for you.
Don't worry you'll get over it.......sooner or later.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Don't know about anyone falling off a mountain to their death, But I know someone who slid a long way down the dignity hillside when he photographed an homeless person.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Can't quite let it go can you, the pain will get better honest.
There's plenty photos of homeless people about, we both know the real dignity losers were the one's who denied they existed.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
They didn't exist again in the TC last night

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
That's splendid news, long may it continue.
But sadly for you that's completely irrelevant to your argument.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
No pain here at all never has been. But do carry on salving your conscious as per usual.

Just confess that what you did was wrong and stop with the bull about there being photos of homeless people about, no doubt there is but were they taken for the same reason as you took that one, which if I remember right was to show ZS and WW that you had seen one and you needed to prove it.

Am I right or wrong?

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I didn't need to 'prove it' quite as much as Spangler who shot up town that night and started photographing empty shop doorways.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Terry, shooting the messenger mate (even though you've missed everytime ) just makes you look foolish.

Posted by: Salmon & Ball (549)  Report abuse
Posted by: chatty (6897)

"I didn't need to 'prove it' quite as much as Spangler who shot up town that night and started photographing empty shop doorways."

Aye. And every night since

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3570)

"They didn't exist again in the TC last night"

I don't believe you. Have you any photos to prove it?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Yes almost every night, that's why I'm better informed than you.

Posted by: Stardelta (6993) Report abuse
Maybe I am missing something but how can not taking a photo of something be irrefutable evidence of that thing not existing?

I haven't got a photo of the queen visiting the toilet, on that basis can we assume she never does?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
sd theres no evidence god exists but fools think he does.

Posted by: Stardelta (6993) Report abuse
Bit of a difference LG.
The existence of God is based on faith in his belief, not physical proof. Some have that faith some don't.

However the existence of rough sleepers on the streets of Wigan does not require any faith, just a pair of eyes and being in the right place at the right time is all that is needed.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Undoubtedly, on the streets of Wigan,
no one has disputed that fact.
But not in town centre doorways, I walk through the town centre very frequently,
I know

Posted by: Stardelta (6993) Report abuse
Ahhh.....now I understand. You spend all night, every night walking around the whole of the town centre on a route that regularly passes every doorway?

Forgive me but doesnt that become a tad tiring.......as well as boring?






Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Please don't try to misrepresent me,
I am speaking from my own personal experience, I've never said that no one has slept in the town centre.
They are there during the day but not at night, where they go I haven't a clue.

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
"I didn't need to 'prove it' " But you did you took a snap. How could you have proved to ZS that there 'was' someone sleeping rough if you hadn't. My aim is very good by the way

My only other thought on the matter is if you are that content with your action of taking that photo and you have no qualms about posting it and willing to argue the toss over how right it is...that you set it up and he's a mate of yours. Either way it isn't right and you know it.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
I feel your pain Tez, give it a few weeks it will get better honestly.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Be gentle with him/her chatty, you wiped the floor with him/her last time

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Chatty seems you have been patrolling the town centre every night since I posted that photo,
looking for a 'rough sleeper',
well it's took you nearly a fortnight and you found only one in that time, and on a Saturday night (one of the few nights I don't visit).
And a very dubious one at that

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Maybe I should come at this from a far simpler angle and ask you...Why did you take that photo, Chatty, on the way home from a night out?

Simple question which requires a simple answer.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Simple answer, on a night out on my direct route home without taking one step of a detour.
Not only that it was my first venture through the town centre night or day since the homeless situation came up on this thread.

It does tickle me though that Spangler is judging me by his own actions:
Chatty seems you have been patrolling the town centre every night since I posted that photo,
looking for a 'rough sleeper'

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
Your reason for stopping to take that photo is what I'm asking?

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
political gain.
did he ask permission from the supposed rough sleeper ?,is that against privacy laws ?.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Everything about chatty is contained in his last post.
He has to drive the message home that he hasn't gone out of his way, without 'one step of a detour'
This seems very important to him.
As for judging him on my own actions, that would never be.
If I had come across anyone sleeping rough I would have said so, I wouldn't have photographed them,
They're entitled to privacy and respect

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
So that when I awoke in the morning I could be absolutely sure I hadn't dreamt it due to the rabid denial of it happening by people on here.
And before you ask I then posted it to shut said people up once an for all.
Best laid plans and all that eh.

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Don't worry, chatty, cowardly Terry won't threaten you, your not an old man.

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Admin should step in and call a halt to proceedings to prevent further humiliation for twonk terry and his pal spangles .

The deluded pair are taking a right beating from chatty .
About time the ref stepped in.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
If I had come across anyone sleeping rough I would have said so, I wouldn't have photographed them,
They're entitled to privacy and respect


So why even bother going out photographing empty shop doorways as some sort of proof, if you are happy to admit you wouldn't photograph an occupied one?

What an absolute clown, I rest my case!

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
Clown is a most apt description chatty .

Posted by: basil brush (12759) Report abuse
Or cowardly clown who picks on owd folk.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
I certainly wouldn't photograph anyone without their permission.

Posted by: grimshaw (2071)  Report abuse
basil .

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
speaking of clowns grimshaw whens this corbyn meeting?

Posted by: TerryW (2676) Report abuse
So as I have said previously you took the photo to "prove a point".

Posted by: baker boy (15173) Report abuse
grim 17th oct at 14.17
another bullshit post backing up his bestest mate,bloody pathetic.
chatty did you get the rough sleepers permission for your flagrant violation of his human rights.

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
From the website:
www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q717.htm
It is not illegal to take photographs or video footage in public places unless it is for criminal or terrorist purposes.

Stick to making fairy cakes Kipling.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
Re his post of 14:17,
I really can't understand what he is blathering on about, no ones took a beating.
I simply put chatty straight concerning beggars and rough sleepers

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
From the website:
www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q717.htm
It is not illegal to take photographs or video footage in public places unless it is for criminal or terrorist purposes.

Stick to making fairy cakes Kipling.


How about you go to the swings in Alexandra park and start taking pics,
See what happens

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Why would I want to do that?
You've have shown to be wrong about rough sleepers in Wigan and have squealed like a trapped pig for 5 days solid.
You made a mistake so suck it up and get over it.
All the whining in the world wont change the fact.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
No I haven't been proved wtong

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Of course you haven't.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
You're in denial

Posted by: chatty (7182)  Report abuse
Dear god, how is anyone meant to take you seriously on here after those last two posts?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3875) Report abuse
You claim to speak for everyone now?

Posted by: laughing gravy (5254) Report abuse
i see grimshaw keeps ignoring me about the meeting he PROMISED...

 
 
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