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Fireworks
Started by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Won't be long now before we start hearing them 24/7 at all hours.

Time to ban them to the public now. Discuss if you wish or not. I hate them but I hate the morons more who feel the need buy them to set off on our streets or throw them at the emergency services. Is bonfire night even relevant now or should it be forgotten. Let's hope we have torrential rains all through Nov and stop the buggers.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2481)  Report abuse
I've never been to a bonfire & never bought fireworks,agree Terry they should be banned

Posted by: Jumpin Jack Flash (151) Report abuse
Totally agree with Terry ban them

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
Ban all sales to the public

Posted by: laughing gravy (5070) Report abuse
oh the bonfire is relevant especially now as just over 600 traitors need burning...

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Nah, it's not about Guy Fawkes anymore now it's about a bunch of morons who pile in the back of a neighbour’s garden and fight over how to light fireworks before setting fire to their panel fencing and shed and laugh because they are off their faces on drink and whatever. While this is going on their little darlings are out on the streets setting off fireworks in phone boxes, peoples gardens or throwing them at the firemen who have turned up to put their dads shed out before the house goes up in flames.

Forget the 5th of November and ban all fireworks to the public.

Posted by: aussie94 (2300) Report abuse
Been band in Oz for decades. Too risky start bush fires

Posted by: kathpressey (5005)  Report abuse
Terry W - well lets ban Christmas too because for the vast majority of people it is no longer about The birth of CHrist but and excuse to over eat, drink and spend money that many can't really afford.Let's ban Easter too because it's just encouraging obesity and bad eating habits.

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
Kath most fireworks today are bombs and in the wrong hands can cause a lot of distress and damage Its the morons who use them to blow phone/letter boxes up or push them through letter boxes and burn houses down who should be banned from buying them. How many people with pets hate fireworks because of the stress caused to the animals and the owners. How many fireworks are set off either during daylight or in the early hours of the night.We even have idiots riding round in cars setting fireworks off at different places There should ONLY be organized firework displays on certain dates then if people want to get away from these events they can do so and most pet owners would move away from these events if they could.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (3939) Report abuse
I used to love bommy neet and the lead up to it, with me pocket full of bangers, and do any of you remember 'Canon Bangers' and letting off rockets from a milk bottle.

Chuckin a lit 'jumping jack' over the wall into the girls play ground at Abram & Bryn Gates Primary School

Collecting for a Bommy

Raiding a Bommy

Guarding a Bommy

Burning down a Bommy

Making a guy from an owd pair of pants and a shirt sown together and stuffed with newspaper

Homemade Treacle Toffee

Shop made Treacle Toffee

Meat and Tatty Pie made in industrial quantities in the biggest dish in the house

What is left of all that now

1. Bommy Neet - all but gone

2. Bangers - banned

3. Rockets - it tends to be those mortar things now

4. Milk bottles - I presume they have gone, not seen one for years

5. Jumping Jacks - Banned along with Catherine Wheels

6. Segregated Playgrounds - Have they gone too?

Yoo can see that I had a posh upbringing

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
I lived on Whitledge Green which had a bonfire for years and like a lot of blinkers adults watched the bonfire and people letting off fireworks every where. Now I am a lot older I think back and if you look on" photos "will see how much mess there was on the Green for weeks before and after the event.Also even then there were the idiots who though it fun to aim exploding rockets at people or houses

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Kath, but those are all self inflicted, you have the choice not to over eat or drink. We don't have the choice with fireworks when people are attacked with them or animals are tortured by having them tied to their tails etc.

On a separate not we won't need to ban Christmas as our Islamic brethren have that in hand already for when they remove all Christianity in the UK.

Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
Well said kath, kiljoys.

Posted by: aussie94 (2300) Report abuse
kill a few more with your toys

Posted by: retep1949 (537) Report abuse
I think conkers should be banned.It is coming up to that time of the year when I will have to take my grandchildren to see who can collect the best conkers and watch them enjoying themselves.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (3939) Report abuse
That bonkers or should I say conkers

Wrap kids up in cotton wool, and that is how those kids end up being psychopaths ....

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse


A dog has been left horrifically injured after being 'fed' a lit firework by a group of children.



YOBS hurled fireworks at police cars and a PCSO in Ellesmere Port causing more than £1,000 worth of damage.



Boy reveals scars all over his body after being burned by a firework on Bonfire Night.



Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
They wouldn't have lasted 2 mins in our day.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Going off those stories and photos I very happy to be a "killjoy".

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (3939) Report abuse
Yes, fireworks are dangerous and so are a hell of a lot of other things too, which cannot be banned

Posted by: Jumpin Jack Flash (151) Report abuse
Spot on Terry they need banning asap

Posted by: aussie94 (2300) Report abuse
As always follow Oz

Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
Lot's of things are dangerous in the wrong hands,

Posted by: jouell (4705) Report abuse
TTS, we did all of what you said, except throwing over fences, .. Grandma made the best treacle toffee and baking potatoes in the ash of the bonfire.. They were great nights and the following day, you couldn't see a thing due to all the lingering smoke from the night before..
Difference from then and now, fireworks were a lot smaller and not as dangerous... Most bonfires had parents in control, so no stupid happenings.. No one had cars back then, especially kids, so none of that insane behavior... It really was a far more innocent time back then,70 years ago, when I was little..
It's a very sad and different world now and I believe fireworks should not be sold to the public and only City, Towns to have organised Bonfires..

Posted by: cardyhills (19) Report abuse
As with most things it's education that is lacking. Banning fireworks due to a minority of idiots is not the way forward. Bommy neet was my favorite night of the year when I were a lad and guess what? I never once fired a roman candle at a member of the public.

Common sense goes a long way, especially when thas playin wi fire!

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (3939) Report abuse
I know fireworks were/are dangerous, and you should not prick about with them, but I cannot remember ever trying to harm anyone with them ....

Bangers were brilliant though, if you lit one and waited for it to fizz and then put it in water, it shot off like a torpedo, and when it went off it showered everyone with water

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
The power in today's fireworks could be classed as ordnance, they are powerful enough to blow up a phone box.

LINK

Warning bad language used by these adult morons. Common sense?

Posted by: cardyhills (19) Report abuse
TerryW that is moronic, no doubt.
Looks like a few lager louts acting the goat.
Still, should kids have their fun taken away from them due to the actions of these scallys?

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Organised displays will give them just as much fun in a much more safer environment, Cardyhills. No need these days for explosives to be in the hands of the public on our streets, there are enough terrorists that enjoy doing that.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (3939) Report abuse
They want locking up for doing that

Posted by: cardyhills (19) Report abuse
or an ASBO at least

Posted by: kathpressey (5005)  Report abuse
irresponsible use of fireworks is bad I agree but I do think our British traditions and culture should be maintained. I'm not a fan of fireworks myself but My neighbour loves them- especially big bangs. I loved bonfire night as a child and doing t for my own sons too. Our only blip was mum sending a rocket through the window of the post office on Enfield Street. Maybe Bombs and bangers should be restricted to organised displays and a limit to the noise level on ones bought for home use.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
I don't think we should celebrate an act of treason and terrorism the acts to kill James VI, that's what Guy Fawkes planned wasn't it? He sought to spread his ideology the Catholic faith through force by terrorism. Islamism is the goal of jihadists today, would we celebrate the acts of these people too?

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Those blowing up the phone box and those filming it are old enough to vote...God help us!

Posted by: jouell (4705) Report abuse
I don't see it as Celebrating Guy Fawkes for what he was trying to do.. I see it as Celebrating the fact that his plan was foiled and he was put to death and rightly so..

That said, Religion is the cause of more wars and millions of deaths over the Centuries, Christianity being one of them.. My neighbours tell me I am going to Hell when I die, because I am a Unitarian, they are Evangelic Southern Baptist and in their mind, only E S B will be Raptured when the end comes... the rest will burn in hell.. SO .......

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
A martyr then?

Posted by: Jumpin Jack Flash (151) Report abuse
Terry drive this home you are totaly right on the fireworks!!!

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
I don't mind anyone enjoying bonfire night, I do mind the mindless fools who think it fun to cause trouble with fireworks on our streets.

Posted by: broady (15088)   Report abuse
You can’t really compare fireworks from the 60’s with fireworks of today. You could hold lots when I was a kid but today’s are mini incendiary devices. Banned from public sale over here but I much prefer the organized ones that the system is computerized to make them look spectacular.

Posted by: aussie94 (2300) Report abuse
Like a lot of thnings in the UK way behind the times

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Sadly our emergency services across the NW have seen their members attacked with fireworks yet again. Gangs of young people deliberately attacking men and women doing their job after ambushing them on false emergency calls.

Time to end the sale to the public, it isn't acceptable for these firefighters to have to endure this year after year.

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
Riot police deployed in Leeds,Police and Fire brigade attacked Animals killed or died through fireworks not be long before some one gets killed with fireworks

Posted by: retep1949 (537) Report abuse
I now agree with you Peter,it is getting out of control and dangerous.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
You would think the government would step now and stop this mindless behaviour.

Posted by: momac (10165)  Report abuse
The whole problem is..there weren't as many small minded thugs years
ago,if there were they were in the minority..and you can bet that they would be severely punished..just read that a dog was fed a firework and the poor
creatures mouth was burnt..I'm just so fed with the nanny state of this
country..and the thugs too.

Posted by: tomplum (5322)  Report abuse
I fully agree Momac, they should reintroduce
. corporal punishment, national service and capital punishment, I'd vote for any party that promised those, even if it was a tory policy << shiver >>>

Posted by: momac (10165)  Report abuse
Tom..my youngest Son was attacked two weeks ago just walking,he was
knocked to the floor and punched...what a mess his face was,swollen cheek swollen..bloodshot eye,had to have stitches,gravel taken out of his
face,.I could have cried when I saw him..had to have a brain scan,had to
report back to the Hospital if he started sleeping longer,they told him they didn't know how his jaw wasn't broken..had his stitches out today but told
him he will be scarred..he never got the chance to see their faces..his clothes are still at police station for DNA..if I or his Dad could have got hold
of them..well we'd be locked up for assault wouldn't we..that's how it is
today,oh no you mustn't take matters into your own hands,while the thugs
get a slap on the wrist ,because they're depressed or had a bad upbringing
I could rant all night..but it wouldn't take away the sight of my Sons face,
the thugs are out there and being mollycoddled if they get caught out.
I apologise for going slightly off the thread..I'm just so cheesed off with our
judicial system.

Posted by: tomplum (5322)  Report abuse
Sorry to hear of that momac, Its not safe to go out now, No police on the streets,no proper adjudication even if or when they catch them, At worst, they get a term in a holiday camp, warm and dry with tv, play stations and regular meals and better health treatment than we do,

Posted by: nanajacqui (2481)  Report abuse
Momac so sorry to hear more about Lee,you must be worried sick,hope he's soon better it's such a worry.

Posted by: momac (10165)  Report abuse
Thank you nanajacqui..he is on the mend now..but it was very frightening
when it first happened,his memory was awful at the beginning,so we were scared..they didn't take his phone or anything else..which means they just
enjoyed knocking him about.

Posted by: linma (2522) Report abuse
Son was on duty last night, today he was shattered.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2481)  Report abuse
Thanks for the update momac.I'm in Tenerife but I keep peeping in & broady will be arriving soon,he's in Abram at the moment so I'll see him in the next few days I hope

Posted by: momac (10165)  Report abuse
Linma,I'm sure he was,they do all that work and paperwork,go before the
judge who then let's them off for them to go and do the very same crimes
again.pathetic isn't it..I know what I'd do with all the ferals..when you see
especially on the TV lads of the same age went to fight for their country,and
many didn't come home.

Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
It's a pity the thickos don't blow themselves up

Posted by: baker boy (14991) Report abuse
walshy
there's always fireworks when your out and about on the keyboard.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
So what do the people of WW now think about the banning of fireworks to the public, are we being "killjoys" as one person suggested or are we just sick to death of hearing about the mindless acts with fireworks.

Posted by: momac (10165)  Report abuse
We're not being killjoys Terry,today's yobs are just using them for ammunition,
not for enjoyment ...plus the cruelty to animals is an outlet for their non
mentality..the goings on in Manchester proves the quote "What are we
breeding" to a T.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5070) Report abuse
jouell when you get there save a spot for me,if i get there 1st i'll save you one..

Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
Well said momac, most of the kids/youth of today are thick, have no consideration and are not bothered about anybody. Plus there's no deterrent.

If any of my kids had have done anything like that I would have brained them.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
Posted by: basil brush (12623)10,000+ Report abuse

Well said kath, kiljoys.

Replied: 15th Sep 2019 at 10:45



Did you forget you posted that?

Posted by: basil brush (12717) Report abuse
No, not at all, cry 🍼 🍼 baby 🍼 🍼 🍼

Posted by: linma (2522) Report abuse
In Longton, near where I live, sometime fastened a firework to a poor hedgehog and lit it, needless to say the poor animal died.

Posted by: TerryW (2614) Report abuse
We are still hearing them going off all night long here. That's awful Linma, there are some very sick individuals among us.

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
Still setting fireworks off has I TypeWhen will the wizz bang end

Posted by: ann-spam (3424)  Report abuse
Shops still selling them it will be like this till after New year .

Posted by: PeterP (7234) Report abuse
Ann-spam registered sellers can sell fireworks from
15th Oct-10th Nov
26th-31st Dec
3 Days before Diwali and the Chinese New Year
Any other times only Licensed shops can sell them
Whats the difference between a registered seller and a Licenced shop

Posted by: mollie m (6266)  Report abuse
If I may add to this, it was James I of England, James VI of Scotland, they were trying to kill. Also, it was a plot by Robert Catesby who searched for volunteers who were like-minded people and Guido Fawkes was one of them. Guy Fawkes was the poor beggar who was caught in the act of guarding the gunpowder in the cellars of the House of Lords, but many people think that it was his plan, and not Robert Catesby's. It's a very interesting story, which should have happened in July, not November.

 
 
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