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Compostable 'plastic' bags.

Started by: priscus (inactive)

Local Authority in my neck of the woods, operates a Brown Bin, (compostable waste) collection. Garden waste can be put in raw. Food/kitchen waste must be bagged in compostable bags, which they supply free of charge.

It's a good idea in principle.

However, the bags really are well on their way to decomposing before you get to use them. You are lucky if you can tear one off the roll, without it shredding. Odds are that whatever you put in will drop straight through, taking the bottom out of the bag, and create yuk all over t kitchen floor.

Maybe, thought I, they are sitting around too long, and I am not getting through them at the rate intended.

So I used one or two to put kitchen waste into my own compost tumbler: they survived a whole year of tumbling with the compost, and then ANOTHER whole year of being buried in the garden soil. Still they have not decayed. Seems they only decay in your kitchen drawer, and stabilise once disposed of. Bizarre or what?

Started: 25th Sep 2016 at 13:35

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive)

They used to do the compostable bags in Wigan.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 13:39

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

I hope they worked better than these.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 13:42

Posted by: Anne (4386) 

Used all my free ones supplied by the council, now put all my kitchen waste straight into the caddy provided. Know what you mean about the compostable bags. Useless.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 13:53

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Our Council stopped collecting food waste.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:02

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive)

They moaned at one point about us putting compostable food waste such as peelings etc. Into the green bin.

Now they tell us we should do it.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:05

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Just the same thing here Lapis. Councils should make their mind up.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:12

Posted by: marken (378)

I have had no problems with the bags and I get mine from Marsh Green library.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:19

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

I can foresee ours stopping too.

Think most hereabouts have given up on the compostable bags, and use brown bins purely for garden waste. Many seem to have reverted to disposing of food waste in black bag that goes into black bin, which goes to landfill.

Sort of defeats the object, really.

Can't help but think someone, somewhere has made a perverse decision which has prevented fine tuning the characteristics of the material from which the bags are manufactured.

And, for a hapeth of tar, the ship whur lost....

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:20
Last edited by priscus: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:22:20

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

I used to wrap any food waste in newspaper. But as I'm against food waste I have very little.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:22

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive)

We don't have much food waste either. Waste not want not.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:25

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

My neighbour puts it out for the rats. She thinks she is feeding the birds!

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:26

Posted by: erontquay (inactive)

Doesn't take much to attract rats. I've seen them in town early on a Sunday morning when revellers the night before have discarded the leftovers from whatever food outlet they bought from.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:35

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Peelings, bones and discards seem to accumulate from consuming fresh food, no matter how frugal I attempt to be. I have scant packaging waste though as I rarely buy any preped food, and do not have a freezer, so nowt frozen.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:35

Posted by: PeterP (11303)

Marken we are the same no trouble with the bags and can pick them up from Ashton library or the Post office in Old RoadThere are 30 bags in a roll so these should last between 8-10weeksOnce i have started on a roll then i then try to go within a few weeks and pick another roll up from the libraryIf you have too many bags and don't use them frequently then they start sweating and degrade

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 14:55
Last edited by PeterP: 25th Sep 2016 at 19:28:05

Posted by: cindy (5971) 

We have no trouble with the bags, We get them from Standish Library.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 15:46

Posted by: irene (2901) 

The bags are fine for a long time, but they get to a point where they start to disintegrate. I used them all last Summer in our caravan and they were fine, but we left them in at the end of the caravan season last October, and when we started the new season this year, I found they were tearing as I tried to separate them. We got some new ones and they have been fine.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 16:59

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

No trouble with the bags from the Life Centre in Wigan.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 17:45

Posted by: broady (inactive)

We have a garburator in the sink and all the peelings and surplus food go down that. Gets broke up and flushed away into the water pipes.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 17:55

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

France have just voted to ban the plastic cup, it's a massive step forward. States of America are bsnning the same by the week, Hope the UK decides to follow suit very soon. Cost wise, it costs a 5th to recycle than to start from raw product.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 18:05

Posted by: broady (inactive)

We have to pay a 5c minimum deposit on every bottle, tin can or Tetra Pak. Larger bottles cost more. However we save them and take them back to the bottle depot's and get our cash back. This saves millions being sent to the dumps. The bottle stores send them away to be recycled.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 18:08

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

We should have thought of that years ago, Broady.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 18:10

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive)

No reason to make a special trip into town for them though.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 18:19

Posted by: broady (inactive)

There are two bottle depots within ten minutes of my home. You take them back to roughly the same area you bought them from when you go shopping. No special trip needed.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 18:21

Posted by: LindaWarrior (147) 

No problem with our bags either. We get ours from Kitt Green Post Office.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 20:34
Last edited by LindaWarrior: 25th Sep 2016 at 20:35:15

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive)

I meant for us to collect the compost bags, broady.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 21:03

Posted by: broady (inactive)

My misreading.

Replied: 25th Sep 2016 at 21:19

Posted by: madamehmurray (6273) 

we sometimes have to get dbl bags if we are walking sometimes we forget and the bags rip

Replied: 26th Sep 2016 at 22:55

Posted by: fingers (inactive)

Food packaging should be compostable, especially the fast food containers.

Replied: 27th Sep 2016 at 08:21

Posted by: priscus (inactive)

Back in the day when most of it was paper, it was.

Replied: 27th Sep 2016 at 11:30

 

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