Been to Pemberton this afternoon and was shocked to see the huge amount of fly tipped rubbish dumped around the car park that is between the shops and St John's church and the graveyard, it's the first time I've been up there in around three years so obviously some folks around there instead of going to Kirkless with their unwanted and worthless garbage since Orrell yard closed have decided that it is okay to use this car park to offload it - disgusting!!!

Since TV programmes such as Call The Council and Dom On The Spot illegal dumpers now know which materials not to include in their rubbish before dumping; so has to avoid being identified.

There are some right scruff bags about. Must be a new thing not seen it myself yet. But then not parked around there in some time.

It's the wrong side of the tracks.

Norley, once a bastion of good folk and memories, is fast becoming the new Scholes. It's sad but true.

There's a new breed walking the streets. And it's a bad un.

Wrong side of the track, omg you are a hop skip and jump away. Says him who boozes in the nastiest place ever. Might be them who are tipping, it's very handy.😂

You mean the one you called went in.

Blame the council.

Jathbeast: If Steve and Joe ever hear you say that, you'll be in court.

Watch your vindictive tongue.

Always said she as a nasty mouth.... When she's behind a keyboard

I never named the pub nor did I say it was them. And don't threaten me you soft mard melt. And you yourself are besmirching an entire estate so watch your vicious mouth.

Oh dear looks like jarvo has wiped the floor with jathbeast

Vindictive tongue, he's only speaking the truth.

Why don't you go in the fish and tell him...... You soft mard melt.

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Oh dear, another thread gone to pot.

Why can't posters discuss issues instead of sinking into infantile playground backbites - maybe time to have a 'Bake Off' to sort out the Filo from the Choux, hopefully with no soggy bottoms ensuing.

Haven't heard the term 'Soft Melt' in years, remember when you could buy melts for pet food at a butchers, it's offal, and in Wigan was a name particularly for pork spleens, folks would say they were delicious, but I couldn't have them, I'd forego tripe too.

Blame jathbeast, nastiest on here, but only why she's behind her keyboard.

I heard it tuther day, first time in yonks

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Soft mite was another one

Put the soft melts on ignore

It's my experience that if fly tipping is reported the council remove it the next day. Nothing to do with tip closing just residents acting illegally.

Nice to another decent poster ena , posting

Ena. That rubbish could have come from any number of places. It's within a short drive from, not only Norley but Kitt Green, Orrell, Lamberhead Green, Smethurst Lane area, Halfway house area, Redwood area.
And the residents of Pemberton centre too, besides others.
But one particular poster singles out the residents of Norley and then gets all defensive at the suggestion that the culprits maybe, but not necessarily, closer too home.

Fly tipping has become more prevalent since the closure of local tips and the cut in bin collections. No getting away from that. We now have people advertising rubbish pick ups for those with full bins and some people are taking up these offers. No one knows where these people are dumping the rubbish, so residents of the area may not be guilty of the fly tipping.

Buy hey, why not point the finger at a specific group of people.

And some people don't have the transport to take their excess rubbish to the tip, or the finances to pay someone to do it.

jathbee, I made no comment as to where it came from and agree it could be from anywhere.I am pointing the finger at no-one. It's also not factually true that there is more fly tipping since the change in bin collections and I would be interested where you got your evidence for such a sweeping statement.

Ena. I never implied it was you who were pointing a finger. That was Jarvo's charge.
My evidence comes from my own eyes, not any kind of statistics.
I know from the surrounding areas that there is an increase in fly tipping, as the OP has suggested. I also know personally of people paying other people to take away their excess rubbish. Some of these people are not licensed to removed rubbish and therefore who knows where and what they are doing with it, hence the increase in fly tipping. If you care to look on PAD you will find that Mick from the forum here on WW often posts photos of our beauty spots littered by fly tippers, as he does on the forum.

It's rare that Mick and myself agree on much but I would encourage him to provide more evidence of fly tipping when he is on his travels around Wigan.

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Looks like jathbeast has been shown up again

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good find TTS.

Mick's fly tipping photos disappeared when he changed photo sites Jathbee, I remember he did a lot of Landgate Lane Bryn, which no sooner had it been cleared was full of rubbish again.

I hope he restarts the litter posts again. Keep people up to date on just how much fly tipping is ruining our enviroment and the cost to council tax payers.

Never let actual facts and statistics get in the way of a juicy story eh.

You don't need anyone to keep you up to date, try opening your eyes.

Nice to see you posting again, ena

Well we all know about facts and statistics. Very easy to manipulate when it suits the purpose.

Thanks BB.

And it's also easy to claim to have seen far more fly-tipping since the change in bin collections. If you see any try reporting it and see how quickly it gets removed rather than moaning about it.

That won't happen ena, "some people" would rather come on here and moan about it, or a person, instead of getting it sorted.

Unfortunately you're right BB.

I use my eyes when I'm out and about and I can categorically say there is more fly tipping now than ever before. And I don't make false claims unlike some people do. And I have reported fly tipping too.

But hey, don't let the truth get in the way defending the effects the cuts in bin collection and tips closures have had on the enviroment.

Do you honestly think people will belive you jathbeast, the amount of lies you've told.....I doubt it.

Remember the one where she said that she had categorical evidence that Jarvo wasn't on a train that travelled 60 years ago but she couldn't name her sources?

Laughable and pathetic lies in an attempt to rubbish a fellow poster.

What a pathetic individual she is proving to be, post after post after post.

Give it a rest - everyone knows that you are a proven liar and aren't clever enough to disguise it.

Jarvis wasn't on a train that travelled sixty years ago.

Fact.

And "Basil I have been banned at least five times" is a reliable poster?? Has it been proved Jarvo was on that train yet?? How old would he have been 4/5?

Indeed he wasn't. He's the biggest fantasist, bigger than Billy liar.😂😂😂

Very well said builderboy, totally agree

I'm sure she also said she wasn't getting involved in arguing anymore yet she's the worst one on here for causing trouble.

I see boredys not got back ont uther site yet, which is a shame.

And builderboy, I have said time and time again, your opinion is nothing and will impact in no way on me. Carry on defending your bestie, you deserve each other 😝😂

Spot on Broady.

Regardless. There is more fly tipping since the reduction of bin collection and the closure of tips. And that I stand by.

And you know this, how?????????????

Looking at Number 3 on Google Earth I think most of it is there.

Posted by: basil brush (9248) [7,500+] Report abuse

That won't happen ena, "some people" would rather come on here and moan about it, or a person, instead of getting it sorted.

Replied: 8th Mar 2018 at 16:31


Posted by: basil brush (9238)7,500+ Report abuse

If they start charging for garden waste you'll get people dumping it anywhere and everywhere.

Replied: 8th Dec 2016 at 10:4


You couldn't make it up could you?

GNo you couldn't. I wonder was he reffering to himself 🃏🃏🃏

Another one who wouldn't say it in public, holiday must be boring.

I hope know one from norley is reading that nasty and disgusting comment.

Posted by: jarvo (27921) View jarvo's page10,000+ Report abuse

It's the wrong side of the tracks.

Norley, once a bastion of good folk and memories, is fast becoming the new Scholes. It's sad but true.

There's a new breed walking the streets. And it's a bad un.



Replied: 7th Mar 2018 at 00:24

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There is bad uns on Norley and lots of people no it but to say what nasty nana as said is terrible

nanajacqui (1042) Report abuse


Number 3 C Place in norley all bins on show disgusting & bone idle people live there


Ooh, Mrs Nana, sorry lass, but your comment wasn't well thought out. My bins are on show, all in a row under the front hedge, but they aren't there because I'm disgusting or bone idle, and it doesn't matter where you live. They're there because there's no way I could possibly hide them in my entry as the window cleaner wouldn't be able to gain access, and I can't hump them around the back at my age down a step and then up again as I am now unable to do that.

How thoughtless of you to demoralise and de-value people from a specific area without knowing their age and health circumstances? Is everyone who doesn't hide their bins, disgusting and bone idle? Or is it because some folk don't have a choice? In my case, I don't have a choice.

I think you missed the point and NJ wasn't casting aspersions about people in general. As you say everyone's circumstances are different.

mollie m (6211) View mollie m's page5,000+ Report abuse

nanajacqui (1042) Report abuse


Number 3 C Place in norley all bins on show disgusting & bone idle people live there


Ooh, Mrs Nana, sorry lass, but your comment wasn't well thought out. My bins are on show, all in a row under the front hedge, but they aren't there because I'm disgusting or bone idle, and it doesn't matter where you live. They're there because there's no way I could possibly hide them in my entry as the window cleaner wouldn't be able to gain access, and I can't hump them around the back at my age down a step and then up again as I am now unable to do that.

How thoughtless of you to demoralise and de-value people from a specific area without knowing their age and health circumstances? Is everyone who doesn't hide their bins, disgusting and bone idle? Or is it because some folk don't have a choice? In my case, I don't have a choice.

Replied: 9th Mar 2018 at 01:51
Last edited by mollie m: 9th Mar 2018 at 02:10:36

Well now.

I seem to recall you saying some rather, to say the least, very unkind things about Harry, who Jimmy O used to ridicule.

If I recall rightly, you said he was "A smelly Neanderthal". Not very well thought out was it. And not very compassionate either.

Well said Jathbee,I remember her saying that

Let's hope the "bad uns" off Norley don't see nasty nanas comment

The bad un off Norley has seen it

There more than one bad un on Norley, let's hope they don't see your disgusting post and take offence to it.

Harry is a total time waster. No doubt about that.

I totally agree with Mollie's comments.

Make the fat slob tidy the litter up in Wiggin town centre where he sits and holds court.

Cut the bugger's benefit if he refuses.

No one was interested in fly-tipping before the council were forced to close refuse depots,it happened just as much as it does now but then was an accepted part of life, not as it is now another hot potato and an excuse to pour scorn and criticism.

However since the depots closed it has become to many a big deal. The sensible and responsible amongst us will always find legal and socially acceptable ways to dispose of our refuse. The more narrow minded and selfish simply won't bother, regardless of how many legal options there are available

Its all about personal responsibility, some have it, some dont. There are plenty of litter bins in the town center but some choose not to use them....same thing!

The fact people fly-tip and in doing so chance prosecution is no more the councils fault than it is Arthur Guinness's fault that people drink and drive.

Posted by: basil brush (9262) [7,500+] Report abuse

There more than one bad un on Norley, let's hope they don't see your disgusting post and take offence to it.

Replied: 9th Mar 2018 at 12:32



Let he that is without sin cast the first stone etc

Yeh LL on same wave length as myself and many others [p/]

It's a long time since I'v heard the expression "Little Beirut"

Posted by: jarvo (27922) View jarvo's page10,000+ Report abuse

Harry is a total time waster. No doubt about that.

I totally agree with Mollie's comments.

Make the fat slob tidy the litter up in Wiggin town centre where he sits and holds court.

Cut the bugger's benefit if he refuses.



Replied: 9th Mar 2018 at 12:35

Typical.

...Isn't it a fact?

He sits in bus shelters verbally abusing passers by.

Send him to the Dardanelles...

By the way, I was ten years old when I was on that train.

He is a man with learning difficulties. But you wouldn't care about that would you because you have no empathy with any one you deem to be scroungers. As I said, typical.

As for Mollie's opinion. The cat lover who classed her cats as her children, watched, by her own admission, as her cat died from poisoning rather than take it to a vet and then double bagged it and put it into the wheelie bin. All I can say is I'm glad I wasn't one of her children.

It must be fabulous in tenerife, If that's were she is, been on here most of the day following 2 of the nasty uns like a little pup.

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