Wicked witch of the west the evil Thatcher is in Hospital having a minor operation ,who's worried about Her
Not I said the Leyther

Harry Webb will have his hanky out.

"Please, no more politics. Please, no more religion. There are other websites out there - if you're hell bent on spouting politics and/or religion, Google is your friend, find another site."

Harry Webb Cliff Richard you mean

I thoroughly disagreed with some of Mrs.Thatchers ideas,however she is now a very frail old lady and I wish her a speedy recovery.

Shows what Labour activists are really like.

@secion8

If you want people to stop talking politics then stop being political.

If yours and peabrains posts on this thread are not POLITICAL then I'm a chinaman

i hope she gets piles

staff
why what did she do to you,i flourished in the thatcher years,get well soon maam

when I was a lad, every street had a maggie thatch type of woman living in it, they would't let you have your ball back when it went over their wall.

Did she nick the milk off yer step an all?

Well I never liked her, neither did my parents, but my Mam always said, you should never wish on anyone else, anything you wouldn't want happening to you...

Whilst on a visit to a friend long ago I was tickled when upon entering her house she shouted to her dog

"GO AND GET YOUR MAGGIE"

Even more tickled when the dog came back with his squeaky toy.... a spitting image rubber chew toy of maggie thatchers face...

A true leader.

Hear, Hear

The only people who didn't like maggie were labour voters and men with no *&^^%.

This EVERYBODY HATED THE WITCH mantra by a good few here and by the lefty media does not sit well simply by the fact she kept getting voted in for 11yrs so somebody loved her. The only reason she went was because of back stabbing colleagues not because of the majority of people.

The country was in a dire mess when she came into power. "Cometh the hour cometh the man" in this case WO MAN. A leader in every sense and coming from a self confessed sexist I find extremely hard to say.

maggie won her war and brought the greedy miners to their knees

She did an all they are still paying for it......... but no doubt she will get the best possible treatment god i could screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam at wot she did and Dennis the background giving the royal wave nodding donkey ....... sorry politics again.............. Val

Aye and you're paying for it now KD.

This is not about politics, it's about a grand old lady in the twylight of her life, whatever individual views are

Respect to the lady. Hope she gets well.

hear hear I-spy

What is it claimed she did that made some people upset?

Britain in the '70s was known worldwide as the economic sick man of Europe. In the '80s and '90s it was considered prosperous. By '93 I was thinking my ancestors had made a mistake and I should uproot the family and head back to England. In retrospect it was a good thing I didn't.

nowt up with England we dont need guns for protection so just stay were you are

get well soon Maggie

Thatcher's government gave Wigan Borough Council the power it has today. Is that to your favour or not?

By the way, this thread belongs on the Politics Board!

PS: Politics Board's headline was .....

'Politics (Keeping politics off the main boards.)'

Staffbullterrier, you hope she get's piles?, I hope you've aready got them

inside AND out

Tonker, it's mainly about an old lady's health, she's not political any more, and neither need be this thread

I wouldnt say I was worried about her.... but she's an old lady and I wish her no harm...

Hope she gets well soon. She told the Americans, the Russians and o yeah and Argentina.

I won't be mourning when she goes.

Get well soon Mrs T
You're the Greatest !!

Look

Said it before, hope she lives for another twenty years and wakes every morning in utter pain and it gets worse as the day goes by

Read

Politics always accepted as long as they:

1. Support New Labour
2. Say nice things about wonderful WMBC.

Rio, you are sick, my lad

A lot of people are waiting to pour alcohol on her grave...

After it's been processed by the kidneys

Mrs T certainly has better manners than you art

art,
I see the man Maggie walked over lost his court case yesterday regarding his flat for life. They also ruled the NUM didn't have to pay his heating bills or his Tax Preparation fees.

"Shows what Labour activists are really like."

Shows your a liar. I hardly ever start threads, nor do i ever show any support for labour. I see you don't deny being Harry Webb, but answer when called.


"Harry Webb Cliff Richard you mean "

No i mean the same Harry Webb who hounded the boards with the same nonsense as Hot Water Pastry does today. He made it so new members couldn't join because rejoined with so many different names. I can only think that Brian has succumb to Mac's tears.

a freeloading b****** broady, who got his come-uppance.
the bigest phoney ever to lace shoes on his pods.
ps....easy on the nectar over xmas broady

Hope thatcher gets hers,the evil bastard

Posted by: kellysdad (4127)

nowt up with England we dont need guns for protection so just stay were you are

Replied: 22nd Dec 2012 at 19:29

Same old same. Ban the gun. The record needs a nudge!!

cant ya sleep uptt???i think somebody"s been watering down my bush-mills.

Best prime minister this country ever had or will have
Wish her the best for the future
Lovely woman who put Britain first in all her dealings

Are you trying to close this board too?

There are some nasty people, people I don't know, posting on this thread. Shame on you. I would NEVER wish anyone ill health no matter what they had done. Shame on you.

In my view not a great PM played party politics for all it was worth . falklands war and the miners strike are two prime examples . But , i wish her well in her later years. Could not hold a candle to Paul keating who transformmed the Austrailan economy into the powerhouse it is today.

I don't wish her ill,don't wish her well either,just want to forget about the old bat completely.

A great leader when it came to matters abroad and standing up for Britain in Europe etc. but she crippled the poor in this country and offered no re-training or hope to the plus 3.5million she threw on the scrapheap.

That said - I don't think it is very dignified of the papparazzi snapping away as she strugges to get about.

Be careful. Posting about POLITICS is banned!

I am so glad that Mrs Thatcher got through her operation OK.

Trying to let fireworks off in this weather is a nightmare

@veg grower

I WILL not get into a drawn out politics debate but-

"but she crippled the poor in this country and offered no re-training or hope to the plus 3.5million she threw on the scrapheap"

Is so far from the truth I just had to say RUBBISH. Latest News from one Legacy of Thatcher the Nissan plant in the North East, a EUROPEAN SUCCESS story is they have just invested another £1/4 billion in it.

The Tory's under Thatcher brought in MASSIVE investment from abroad and re generated the country which allowed Blair/Brown to go on a wild spending spree.

She is a frail old lady in deteriorating health.I wish her no harm, as i do not wish anyone harm.

As for her politics and morals/ethics. I detested everything she stood for.

Through policies such as anti-union legislation, poll tax, selling council houses, privatisation of national industry and massive deconstruction of Britain's social wealth (e.g. NHS, public transport), she deliberately annihilated any area of British life that was built around community, responsibility to others, collaboration, shared destiny.

Two quotes from her sum it up:
"There's no such thing as society"
"Economics are the method; the object is to change the heart and soul."

The fragmented culture Britain suffers today (Cameron's 'broken Britain') - the anti social behaviour, the selfishness and greed, the lack of cohesion and responsibility - is a direct result of her obsession with uncontrolled competition and the way she gave it to the country. She has done Britain enormous damage, knowingly and without compassion, to support her ideal of a ruthless, dog-eat-dog world.

She also supported Pol Pot, General Pinochet and to a lesser extent the Apartheid regime of S Africa.

A truly poisonous enemy of Britain, whose damage we are still trying to repair - and will be for a long time

I think it sums it up in a nutshell. Nothing to do with her gender. Just a greedy,selfish, self serving individual

HWP - I disagree, she had the poor on their knees, I know because I was one of them - I had the (mis)fortune of attending school while she was Prime Minister. Primary School through to leaving High School, to getting a YTS placement where I was paid peanuts £27.70 the first year and £35 the following year. My father was made unemployed and could not secure another job - he never worked again.

Stel48 - that is an excellent summary IMO.

@stel48

I have never read as much left wing trash propaganda in my life.

People like you live in a left wing cocoon surrounded by left wing nonsense that THATCHER was HATED and this is what you infect the minds of kids at university and schools with prolonging that garbage.

This is a REAL fact

Thatcher was that hated the country kept voting her in for 11yrs. She only left office because of her back stabbing colleagues.

The only people who didn't support her where the Marxists/Communists running the Labour party and Unions at the time who's B*lls she chopped off and the Labour voting sheep that followed them

Perhaps brian could start a politics board for this kind of debate. I may suggest it to him.

@ veg grower

The upheaval in society was caused by the unions WHO WERE THE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO ITS KNEES or have you conveniently forgotten the 3 day weeks, power cuts, destruction of the car industry by the likes of Red Ken etc?

There was indeed a SHORT term problem for the country and people but this soon passed and quoting you only getting £27.70 for YTS is misleading as that was THEN and not NOW. In fact UB is only £71 today

HWP before you insult people you first have to know if your facts are accurate, which they are not. I do not hold the opinion that if anyone disagrees with me they are wrong. I can see why you have an affinity with the woman.

Please don't begin to tell me anything about my life as you do not know. I don't know why you think you do.

I will simply put it down to arrogance and ill education

HWP - obviously you only see one side, as I guess we all do.

This lady is not for turning either.

@sel48

You need to get YOUR FACTS right and not spout INACCURATE LEFT WING PROPAGANDA AS FACT.

I have an opinion that anyone who is wrong is .... wrong particularly when they dont have facts but only spout propaganda.

Neither is this lady. There will be no U Turns. Not on my watch anyway

@veg_grower

Ther is only one side

The side where the facts stand up.

@veg_grower & stel48

Just have to say if there was an argument for women not being involved in politics you 2 are as good a one I could find.

You are a nasty individual HWP.

Men like you make me glad i'm a woman.

As my Dad used to day where's there's no sense there's no feeling

HWP - you are entitled to your opinion of course, as is everyone else, and I am more than happy to read it - one person's fact however, is another person's fiction.

As for the current amount of Job Seeker's Allowance - the £71 per week is given when someone cannot secure employment (they aren't working for that amount - in fact it would work out far less than the minimum wage) when I was working as YTS (instead of claiming Unemplyment Benefit) as I said, I started out on £27.50 per week - doing 40+ hours per week - a huge difference in circumstances.

and my Dad used to say you wont find sense where there is none.

I'm not nasty at all, the real nastyness is someone like you assassinating the likes of Margaret Thatcher with untruths, fabrications and the twisting history.

HWP - 'Just have to say if there was an argument for women not being involved in politics you 2 are as good a one I could find.'

That argument could be used with regard to Margaret Thatcher.

@veg grower

£27.5 for YTS which is Youth traing and NOT full time permanant adult work.

My opinion is based on facts and not wooly headed left wing anti Tory propaganda

There is a huge difference between opinions and facts. You always start to hurl personal abuse with anyone who does not agree with your opinions.

You do it on every thread. Making ridiculous generalised sweeping statements about people you do not know, will never meet or know anything about. How is anyone supposed to respect your opinions on anything

HWP - '£27.5 for YTS which is Youth traing and NOT full time permanant adult work.

My opinion is based on facts and not wooly headed left wing anti Tory propaganda'


I was working full-time and doing the same job as all the other adults - it was a form of slave labour.

My opinion is also based on facts.

@veg Grower

"That argument could be used with regard to Margaret Thatcher."

Thats why I said "If there WAS an argument" In fact THATCHER is as good an argument for women IN politics as you could get. Without her it would be for me be difficult to find one otherwise

And i'm interested in your opinion or arguments.

Let me see.............................................................................................................................................................................................Oh yeah













NOT A JOT

Mmmm - Margaret Thatcher in my opinion is a disgrace to the female population - just my opinion of course.

Speaks volumes that her children have spent virtually no time with her since she retired.

I hear tell that she gets hardly any visitors too...

@stel48

ERR ... IN A WORD rubbish

you came on spouting with the left wing anti Thatcher Diatribe I just responded with reason and facts.


@veg grower

Thats right you were training ... funny though you said-

"but she crippled the poor in this country and offered no re-training or hope to the plus 3.5million she threw on the scrapheap"


Listen you are just being economical with the truth ..... at best

@stel48

You are a "I dont care what you say it wont change my mind" socialist.... even when you are wrong. The type of thing 5yr olds say.

HWP - still slave labour - and relating only to YTS placements.

No re-training for the millions thrown on the dole.

As I said earlier - my opinion and yours are completely different and never likely to budge.

@veg grower

"HWP - still slave labour - and relating only to YTS placements."

Thats exactly what I said when I was an apprentice and funnily enough what my kids said when they were training when teenagers too ... funny that.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


nah nah nah nah nah

In a word HWP everything you type is RUBBISH

@stel48

Usual case with socialists when cornered ... brain freeze ... next up the chanting starts .. BNP ... Racist ... homophobe ... Islamaphobe .. etc etc it just has to come.

No just pathetic. How the hell do you know i am a socialist...oh you don't
Brain freeze...what the hell do you think you have posted that gets the brain stimulated let alone frozen.

I've never chanted in my life.
I have no idea why you think you are intellectually stimulating. Must be your opinion

@stel48

"In a word HWP everything you type is RUBBISH"
Thats 6 words, 6 times wrong about the same ratio as the propaganda you spout

Harry Webb Pastry "I WILL not get into a drawn out politics debate but"

Still bleating about the left wingers ten or so posts later.

I know we are all in it together

I am killing myself laughing here

"I have no idea why you think you are intellectually stimulating"

Where did I say I was? I said I was right nothing else.

If you are not a socialist then by virtue of your political spouting you must be a communist/Marxist/Trotskyist or some other left wing ilk.

@section8

Did you say something?

Oh i must be then if you say so

"I know we are all in it together"

Why should we be !all in it together" we ALL didn't cause the problems. The labour party CAUSED IT WITH THEIR OVERSPENDING so they and their voters should be paying for it if the truth be told.

@stel48

"
Oh i must be then if you say so"

I didn't I said by virtue of what YOU said. What you said IS left wing.

VG

I understand why you hold the views you do but the facts regarding the UK economy leading up to 1979 and beyond are a matter of public record.
For example I have posted on here previously the government reords, and the statistics, on the reason for the right to buy legislation which was to pay down the debts acumulated from the council house building programme. It was dressed up as the right to buy.
Similarly Barbara Castle's bill, sabotaged by Jim Callaghan, 'In Place of Strife' was the blueprint for the Tory trades union reform legislation.The title of the bill suggests that the then Labour Government was aware of the extent of the problems in the trade unions.
A full account of the game changing moment for the UK economy, the 1976 Sterling slide and the IMF crisis, is well documented by two eminent Americans in the book 'Goodbye Great Britain'. It notes the sale of council houses as being one of the terms of the IMF settlement.
You can borrow it with pleasure.

Getting back to Peawapp's post.
No democratically elected UK prime minister should be subjected to such vile comment. It brings WW into disrepute.

Agreed and that is an end to the matter. She is an old woman now. Not a political figure anymore.

Hope she gets well soon

Through the grittest of grittest teeth I will stop posting but the temptation to reply to gaffer is almost unbearable

in fact I think I will call it a day. Spending far too much time on here. I have work to do. I went off and only came back on because the CAP party was spouting.

They say never say never so I wont

i'm not a fan of hers - I was unemployed when she was in power ,but you've got to hand it to her though, she did get one prediction right :- she told m.p's somebody would get jailed over expenses because of the astronomical amounts they were claiming.

I sent her a get well card.

I sent her a bottle of gin

The Great Lady is just like Marmite, end of,!

Under Margaret Thatcher, the company that I worked for, manufactured a million turbochargers...

Happy days.

Under Blair, and New Labour, the whole lot was transferred to Romania...

I wish her the best.

Just like Marmite...What,she smells funny?

A prize of a large jar of said product will be awarded to the first person to explain to Hindleyite as to what I refer

You either like the Bitch or you hate the Bitch, guess what my feelngs are about Her

Peawapp, you get the idea, but not the prize

a prize to the first person to explain to john the concept of humour.

Hindleyite, sorry

@peabrain

and guess what my feeling are for a nasty minded dimwit like you are?

HWP, he does seem to be like that,horrible, but you promised you are done

I have no time for the woman. But what I do have, and was brought up to have is respect for my elders.

Do you have elders Joseph?

Indeed I do, Mr.Kryten. Dostaf and Mac to name but two. I have no respect for either if truth be known!

Merry Christmas Joseph

Thank you, and the same to you and yours.

"Did you say something?"

No i typed something.

Posted by: jarvo (15441)

Under Margaret Thatcher, the company that I worked for, manufactured a million turbochargers...

Happy days.

Under Blair, and New Labour, the whole lot was transferred to Romania...

I wish her the best.







So what? A million turbochargers? Drop in the ocean lad. What are you whining about? Did Blair or new labour own the company?

true cause of unrest in the 60's/70's and 80's,every thick as a brick red misted union leader.arthur scargill wants comfort for the rest of his life.traitor to his men,they struggled while he's profile blossomed.some of you left wingers need to look carefully how britain was nearly ruined by the aforementioned.mrs thatcher was forced to take them on ,because of their obstinacy.the coal industry was going downhill,perhaps if the num had comprimised we may still have some industry.

Baker Boy - hang on a minute, not all Labour voters are Union members or idolise them.

I hate what the Unions have come to represent - they no longer have the interests of the poorest workers at heart, ie folk on minimum pay. Their power and their hearts now lie with the well fed/fatted Public Sector workers.

"they no longer have the interests of the poorest workers at heart,"

Truth be told they never did. Its easy money and cushy in the Union, days and weeks off work PAID for UNION BUSINESS even for them at the bottom ... how do I know? I used to be a shop steward.

THE PEOPLE are the Union...YOU decide...

STOP making excuses for not paying your subscriptions...

If there were no Unions, we'd still be working in between Christmas AND New Year's Day!

IDIOTS!

Jarvo - a lot of folk do work between (and on) Christmas and New Year's Day.

lol...

'Indeed I do, Mr.Kryten. Dostaf and Mac to name but two. I have no respect for either if truth be known!'



That's what I like about this place.

All the best to you and yours, Mester.

True Jarvo,People forget there would be no free health care, no paid sick leave, no paid holidays, no maternity leave etc.
Some folk don't seem to realise how hard life was for people before all of this

Same sort of people who slag off the unions, won't pay subscriptions but want all the same rights and benefits when they win a battle

Stel:

@jarvo

"THE PEOPLE are the Union...YOU decide.."

HAS ANYBODY TOLD THE UNIONS ABOUT THIS??????

God bless Mrs. T
And I hope Joseph get's the chewy end of the Turkey!

The folk who work inbetween Christmas and New Year's Day, DON'T have a Union...

Example: Asda...

hospital staff........etc ??????????

Don't get political, Machey...

Or truthful.

Unfortunately people can't stop being ill because its christmas. But i know Tesco and Asda staff are being told that they are now having to work. Unions not allowed in these places. Hardly the same thing. Greed

I was referring to my industry, specifically...Engineering. But it doesn't stop Asda workers going for Double Time on New Year's Day...

Does it?

Anyway my final response to this matter is reply to the original question, "Who's worried about her"

I would like to reply that i send her all the sympathy she herself afforded to the poor and needy

Heres a question

Why should you NOT work between Christmas and New year? Just asking.

@stel48

"I would like to reply that i send her all the sympathy she herself afforded to the poor and needy"

Twaddle

Did she stop all benefits and close down the welfare state?

Ask this Mon...

Then HWP she has nothing to worry about does she.I know you love your FACTS

Karma man Karma

Yeah I live in the real world not a fantasy dream one

Gradgrind was before Thatcher, anyway. What would he know?

Not to mention the fact that he's a fictional character.

Dostaf: Gradgrind would have kept us behind after work...For nowt...

Fictional? Then that sits with all the fiction written on this thread by lefties about Thatcher

I've sent her 12 virtual red roses

Mr Thomas Gradgrind is the notorious headmaster in Dickens's novel Hard Times who is dedicated to the pursuit of profitable enterprise.[1] His name is now used generically to refer to someone who is hard and only concerned with cold facts and numbers.



Wiki.

And a box of virtual chocolates

Milk Tray?

The Lady loves (Snatched) Milk Tray.

Bet she would like some virtual silk

"All because the lady loves Milk Tray"

Taxi

There always seemed to be a besotted section of the male population trying to take a can opener to the Iron Lady

britboy, I have just sent a cart load of stuff to help her roses grow

@Rio

I do understand your feelings on this one.

What was the Gladiator movie comment.. 'what you do in life echoes in eternity'

Well we are still feeling it..

drivel

what were feeling is labours overspending. nothing to do with Thatcher

Happy Christmas Harry.

Only if the Lady in question is in good health

I like chewy Turkey, so ner!

That remark has nothing to do with Thatchers neck by the way. It was for the benefit of Owd Father Time, Mac.

HWP, leave it, there are a few posters on here who are a disgrace to WW and to the town that spawned them. If their mothers', or grandmothers ever find themselves in a similar situation as Mrs T, well. Merry Christmas

LET IT LIE NOW !!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS

Yer reet buzybee, I, for one, wont print another word, merry christmas for a second, and final time

not work between xmas and new year who amongst us has that amount of time off.only people in very cushty jobs

hwp or harry webb and baker boy,do you both still doff your caps to your betters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UTT,
I don't and never have considered anyone superior to me. Merry Christmas and all the best for 2013. One day we shall meet up and the last one standing buys the last round.
Take care.

@UTT
"do you both still doff your caps to your betters"

No,what I do however is show respect to people who's position warrants it which is something you dont.

Margaret Thatcher deserves respect.