democracry (speak your mind time) if you dare

trawling wigan papers - saw the article regarding the graffiti on the wigan borough council signboard at winwick. without getting into issues about whether or not graffiti is vandalism or not could we have some thoughts on the opinions expressed.
do you think our democratically elected council is guilty of the accusations levelled at it by the phantom graffitist?

don't know what does it say.

accuses the council of bad practice

no smoke without fire

where are all the wafters? Remember freedom of speech etc etc!
I am sure the council can take it ( considering that they have consistently ignored your opinions in the past

i'l tell you a true story about the dirty dealings at wigan council 9 years ago i along with many others were called to a meeting regarding future redundancy's anyway we had our meeting and was informed that there was going to be a points system to see who stayed and who went and it would take place on such a date, anyway the day after the original meeting i went to the town hall to see what redundacy package would be available should i be one of the unlucky ones and was told a list of those due to be made redundant had already been recieved so even before the meeting telling us about redundacys we had been stabbed in the back! i will never trust wigan council ever gain

I once read that anti government graffiti has been found in Roman ruins.Yes, it is all part of democracy and long may it continue.In my neck of the woods an ex politician recently said "If the news isn't good our Government always shoots the messenger".I have been shot umpteen times but keep popping up again.

Sent your cartoon to our Chief Minister in Jersey,perkin.I am ready to duck.

Great cartoon! On my travels I meet loads of fellow Wiganers and if they were to put their opinions about this council into practice then we would have a different set of bums on council seats.

It's unfortunate that the majority of 'fellow Wiganers' complete with all their negative opinions, don't really know what they are talking about

Another informative post from hena there.

ena, so any Wiganer who has a negative opinion on the Council doesn't know what they are talking about!

How condescending is that? It would be pointless in asking how you've arrived at that supposition!

How come you know what you are talking about?

What I meant was that many people may comments about the Council without knowing the 'how's and why's', so in that respect they do not necessarily know what they are talking about.

I know what I know

Don't start Mac as you are the Master of swaying and swerving your views.

Further insightsfrom the 'I don't work for the council with my three jobs' hena.

That makes no sense whatsoever!

he works for the council, it's enas job to hijack the thread.
he's best ignored

Anthony - you are so wrong and very obnoxious. Like the ostrich, bury your head in the sand and ignore what you don't want to believe.

HAHAHAHAHA!
Typical hena.
Ostriches don't bury their heads in sand, or anything else for that matter. No need to thank me for correcting you.

What an idiot you actually are. You have nothing to say so come up with rubbish or racist crap.

It's a popular saying albeit a misconception which has come about as a result of ostrich behaviour. Full marks for the photo but try to have an original opinion of your own for once.

thats an emu

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

see what happens when you post pics of wildlife

It's a cross...a hena, eyes bigger than brain..

That's really funny. It seems your brain isn't particularly big Mac.

I'm not the one who thinks Ostriches bury their heads, hena.
Mind, liabour councillors do it a lot, so I see why you think that way

You have no argument Mac. I might decide to become a Councillor so you can be right about something

You won't get the votes.

How would you know? You don't know anything about me except a persona I choose to reveal.

HAHAHA....Ditto, hena.

The difference is, I didn't imply otherwise

Want me to C&P proof to the contrary, hena?

Grow up and get a life.

kellysdad says it all..

Another Assumpshun from hena.

kellysdad is using a personal experience reported from his point of view. This often portrays a picture that does not reflect the whole story.

Dear Ena I posted this thread because I thought it would be interesting to hear the various takes on what were serious allegations made in the graffiti. Up to your posting there were no personal attacks. Stop acting like a commisar and argue your points rationally and with due respect to the opinions of others - unless of course you are a council apologist/employee/possibly even councillor. People are not interested in "hows and whys" but in the end result.

another jumping on the the bandwagon.

elmos,

yes indeed and if you trace the posts back you will see I did not instigate name callin.

spudmagoo,

I suggest you read through the posts properly.

Have read posts properly and only name calling is on the Wigan Council sign. And surely that is what this thread is all about.

I think you will find that Anthony began the nastiness. If you are a regular you will know that Mac makes it his business to be objectionable to me and many others. I will not sit back and take such comments however, I see that your original point has been lost because of this. I apologise for my part in that but not for defending myself.

i,ve just viewed the said notice ,its probably true and the other matter which needs attention is the education dept,they want a kick up the ass,he/she having been subjected to terrible educational standards in wmbc schools.should be able to spell corrupt properly.wmbc what a let down ,will cllr ena reply?

Ena will reply even if it is just to remind you that I am not a Councillor.

Are we presuming children are responsible for this?

It is a strange situation that the Council are seemingly responsible for every issue on earth. It really does beggar belief.

Posted by: ena1958 (1041)

It's unfortunate that the majority of 'fellow Wiganers' complete with all their negative opinions, don't really know what they are talking about


Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 13:31


As far as the sign goes, I agree with the 'artist'.

nobody has accused the council of being responsible for "every issue on earth" - just those involving my town and, I assume ,yours as well.

Oh yes they doo

HAHAHA

fancy not being able to tell the difference between an emu and an ostrich DOH!

I don't recall claiming the pic was of an Ostrich?
boob, no they don't

HAHAHA

wont even admit it when hes wrong, how pathetic

I thought they just nosed about looking for insects in the sand/soil.

good photo vg!

VG,

actually they lay their eggs in holes in the sand and turn them several times a day which makes it look like they are burying their heads. That's how the saying has come about I would think.

walshy,

Mac likes to wriggle out of situations and being lower than a snakes belly helps him enormously in this task.

ena,

...actually they lay their eggs in holes in the sand and turn them several times a day which makes it look like they are burying their heads.

....bit like the council cabinet then!

How would I know?

lol@ena

dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door

ena...eggsactly!

walshy,

more like he will slither underneath it!

Ena and Walshy]
A match made in heaven / hell

awwwwwwwwwwww, have you spit your dummy out awwwwwwwww

No Mr.W, pacifier still firmly in place

Let's hope said pacifier helps to keep your childish comments to yourself!

why, do i upset you?

good, because if you keep spitting it out you wont be allowed in the gang

With childish comments? Certainly not!

Why pass comment then

this has turned into a great thread for nature lovers etc etc etc

Do I need a reason?

Fact or Fiction? Just a bit of useless information for everyone

OSTRICHES BURY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND

Fiction! Ostriches do NOT bury their heads in the sand.

This tale originates from the fact that the male ostrich will dig a large hole (up to 6 to 8 feet wide and 2-3 feet deep) in the sand for the nest / eggs. Predators cannot see the eggs across the countryside which gives the nest a bit of protection. The hen as well as the rooster takes turns setting on the eggs and because of the indention in the ground, usually just blend into the horizon. All birds turn their eggs (with their beak) several times a day during the incubation period. From a distance it appears as though the bird has his/her head in the sand.

An ostrich's first response to fear is to run. Not only do they not stay to protect the eggs, they attempt to detract a predator to follow them. Due to the fact that they can run sustained speeds of about forty miles per hour, most predators are quickly lost and the eggs are safe

'An ostrich's first response to fear is to run. Not only do they not stay to protect the eggs, they attempt to detract a predator to follow them. Due to the fact that they can run sustained speeds'

Darren caught one.

It's all in the wrist action.

Apologies, Spudmagoo.

At least it wasn't tantamount to libel.

I remember having to move a male ostrich across Belle Vue Zoo.The head-keeper decided to walk him from a to b."You take the right wing" he said,"an Oil (he was Irish)take the left.If he begins to kick just grab his testicles" He didn't kick but 50 years on, I am still trying to fathom that one out

someones late today

It's true i tell you

In't google great?

it is, using that all the time is the only exciting thing some people do

Every e...

Oh, you know the rest.

not that old chestnut

i thought someone who spends his life between this site and google could come out with something different

WHOOSH

never mind,rest of the gang, will be along later, then you can have a mummy cuddle mester

no wonder

expect complaints

edited, dont want the leader of the gang finding my address and coming knocking on my door

probably something else he'll try and deny

Borg. Now wonder!

I am

walshy,

they are not worth the effort. The height of childishness.

(The picture is of a hena, by the way)

Posted by: walshy76 (7114)

lol@ena

dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door

Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:07
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:12:44

July explanation, please.

Posted by: Mac (8672)
I am going to come to your door, batter you to within an inch of your life, eat all your food because I am a big belly with a bald head then take a pooo in your bed.

Replied: 29th May 2012 at 08:58
Edit

You're a rotter and a cad sir

Ah. Cheers Mac.

There was no mention of pooing and eating in the statement.

Anyone looking in could think serious threats had been made. Especially given the thread title.

Not that scoffing all the jackbit then fouling the Egyptian cotton isn't serious.

can' be helped after eatiing 5ena pods

democracry (speak your mind time) if you dare

come on guys (and girls) you should know by now you can only speak your mind if it fits in with certain peoples viewpoints, - anything they don't agree with will see you being branded a tory, a nazi or a bigot !

He is after shunting posts to Handbags, I made that post up as he made posts up about emails. Best ignoring the five watter (15 is far too bright)/
Apologies Spudmgoo for the hijack.

Hear hear, Mick. I posted a comment about Turkish/Kurdish/Iraqi's posting pizza leaflets every day and was caled a racist even though it's true.

Spud, back to your thread title. I wonder if anyone knows how much the council paid to have the tannoy system installed in the market? How much went into A.N.Others sky rocket?

ena

walshy,

they are not worth the effort. The height of childishness.

but you always do (make the effort)

Posted by: dostaf (31191)


Posted by: walshy76 (7114)

lol@ena

dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door

Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:07
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:12:44

July explanation, please.

Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 16:01
Edit

So what's your point mac

Walshy, my point is that you are implying that you have been threatened.

Furthermore, I an not Mac, as you well know.

Are you suggesting I have threatened you?

I have afforded the courtesy of addressing you with your username to avoid confusion. I suggest you try doing the same.

Where have I implied

Implied what, Walshy?

if someone said "i will find your address and come knocking on your door", which im sure someone said, i would find it threatening

Posted by: walshy76 (7114)

never mind,rest of the gang, will be along later, then you can have a mummy cuddle mester

no wonder

expect complaints

edited, dont want the leader of the gang finding my address and coming knocking on my door

probably something else he'll try and deny

Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:06
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:26:32


probably something else he'll try and deny

Does that not imply that you have been threatened?

Nice EDIT

Original post was along the lines of 'feel free to explain'

like i say im sure someone said that on here

as for the edit, dont cry to much, its not as bad as ruining threads

people no my email, so perhaps one of the nice folk out there could find it and send me a link

ena
it simply the council are rsponsible for everything that happens in wigan.
your constant rearguard action defending wmbc against the forces of right must end soon.the education dept must look at that statement and grimace.the person is right, but subject to a wigan education cant spell corrupt.the council are filling wigan mbc full to the brim with houses,whats your insider view of that scenario.

Baker boy emmm,

Whoops

dear ena please elaborate and spellcheck your posting

free speech and mr magoo is on about spellcheck.

this is about understanding a comment. maybe you could translate the meaning of enas posting instead of banging in the sarcastic one liner

ena can speak for her self, your just following

the pack,

oops.