democracry (speak your mind time) if you dare
trawling wigan papers - saw the article regarding the graffiti on the wigan borough council signboard at winwick. without getting into issues about whether or not graffiti is vandalism or not could we have some thoughts on the opinions expressed.
do you think our democratically elected council is guilty of the accusations levelled at it by the phantom graffitist?
Started: 6th Jul 2012 at 23:33
Last edited by spudmagoo: 6th Jul 2012 at 23:35:32
don't know what does it say.
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accuses the council of bad practice
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 00:01
where are all the wafters? Remember freedom of speech etc etc!
I am sure the council can take it ( considering that they have consistently ignored your opinions in the past
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 00:23
i'l tell you a true story about the dirty dealings at wigan council 9 years ago i along with many others were called to a meeting regarding future redundancy's anyway we had our meeting and was informed that there was going to be a points system to see who stayed and who went and it would take place on such a date, anyway the day after the original meeting i went to the town hall to see what redundacy package would be available should i be one of the unlucky ones and was told a list of those due to be made redundant had already been recieved so even before the meeting telling us about redundacys we had been stabbed in the back! i will never trust wigan council ever gain
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Last edited by stooo: 10th Jul 2012 at 07:59:12
I once read that anti government graffiti has been found in Roman ruins.Yes, it is all part of democracy and long may it continue.In my neck of the woods an ex politician recently said "If the news isn't good our Government always shoots the messenger".I have been shot umpteen times but keep popping up again.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 10:08
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Sent your cartoon to our Chief Minister in Jersey,perkin.I am ready to duck.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 10:51
Great cartoon! On my travels I meet loads of fellow Wiganers and if they were to put their opinions about this council into practice then we would have a different set of bums on council seats.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 11:14
It's unfortunate that the majority of 'fellow Wiganers' complete with all their negative opinions, don't really know what they are talking about
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 13:31
Another informative post from hena there.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 13:47
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ena, so any Wiganer who has a negative opinion on the Council doesn't know what they are talking about!
How condescending is that? It would be pointless in asking how you've arrived at that supposition!
How come you know what you are talking about?
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 14:07
What I meant was that many people may comments about the Council without knowing the 'how's and why's', so in that respect they do not necessarily know what they are talking about.
I know what I know
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 14:54
Don't start Mac as you are the Master of swaying and swerving your views.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 14:55
Further insightsfrom the 'I don't work for the council with my three jobs' hena.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 15:10
That makes no sense whatsoever!
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 15:32
he works for the council, it's enas job to hijack the thread.
he's best ignored
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Anthony - you are so wrong and very obnoxious. Like the ostrich, bury your head in the sand and ignore what you don't want to believe.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:15
HAHAHAHAHA!
Typical hena.
Ostriches don't bury their heads in sand, or anything else for that matter. No need to thank me for correcting you.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:25
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What an idiot you actually are. You have nothing to say so come up with rubbish or racist crap.
It's a popular saying albeit a misconception which has come about as a result of ostrich behaviour. Full marks for the photo but try to have an original opinion of your own for once.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:31
see what happens when you post pics of wildlife
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:36
It's a cross...a hena, eyes bigger than brain..
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:43
That's really funny. It seems your brain isn't particularly big Mac.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:49
I'm not the one who thinks Ostriches bury their heads, hena.
Mind, liabour councillors do it a lot, so I see why you think that way
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 19:51
You have no argument Mac. I might decide to become a Councillor so you can be right about something
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How would you know? You don't know anything about me except a persona I choose to reveal.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 20:06
The difference is, I didn't imply otherwise
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Want me to C&P proof to the contrary, hena?
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 20:18
Grow up and get a life.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 20:20
kellysdad says it all..
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 20:21
kellysdad is using a personal experience reported from his point of view. This often portrays a picture that does not reflect the whole story.
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 20:26
Dear Ena I posted this thread because I thought it would be interesting to hear the various takes on what were serious allegations made in the graffiti. Up to your posting there were no personal attacks. Stop acting like a commisar and argue your points rationally and with due respect to the opinions of others - unless of course you are a council apologist/employee/possibly even councillor. People are not interested in "hows and whys" but in the end result.
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Last edited by spudmagoo: 7th Jul 2012 at 23:39:01
another jumping on the the bandwagon.
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elmos,
yes indeed and if you trace the posts back you will see I did not instigate name callin.
spudmagoo,
I suggest you read through the posts properly.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 00:04
Have read posts properly and only name calling is on the Wigan Council sign. And surely that is what this thread is all about.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 00:10
I think you will find that Anthony began the nastiness. If you are a regular you will know that Mac makes it his business to be objectionable to me and many others. I will not sit back and take such comments however, I see that your original point has been lost because of this. I apologise for my part in that but not for defending myself.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 00:16
i,ve just viewed the said notice ,its probably true and the other matter which needs attention is the education dept,they want a kick up the ass,he/she having been subjected to terrible educational standards in wmbc schools.should be able to spell corrupt properly.wmbc what a let down ,will cllr ena reply?
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 01:08
Ena will reply even if it is just to remind you that I am not a Councillor.
Are we presuming children are responsible for this?
It is a strange situation that the Council are seemingly responsible for every issue on earth. It really does beggar belief.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 01:13
Posted by: ena1958 (1041)
It's unfortunate that the majority of 'fellow Wiganers' complete with all their negative opinions, don't really know what they are talking about
Replied: 7th Jul 2012 at 13:31
As far as the sign goes, I agree with the 'artist'.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 10:13
Last edited by Mac: 8th Jul 2012 at 10:17:49
nobody has accused the council of being responsible for "every issue on earth" - just those involving my town and, I assume ,yours as well.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 10:27
HAHAHA
fancy not being able to tell the difference between an emu and an ostrich DOH!
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 10:32
I don't recall claiming the pic was of an Ostrich?
boob, no they don't
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HAHAHA
wont even admit it when hes wrong, how pathetic
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 12:35
I thought they just nosed about looking for insects in the sand/soil.
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good photo vg!
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VG,
actually they lay their eggs in holes in the sand and turn them several times a day which makes it look like they are burying their heads. That's how the saying has come about I would think.
walshy,
Mac likes to wriggle out of situations and being lower than a snakes belly helps him enormously in this task.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 12:54
ena,
...actually they lay their eggs in holes in the sand and turn them several times a day which makes it look like they are burying their heads.
....bit like the council cabinet then!
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How would I know?
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lol@ena
dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door
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ena...eggsactly!
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walshy,
more like he will slither underneath it!
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Ena and Walshy]
A match made in heaven / hell
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awwwwwwwwwwww, have you spit your dummy out awwwwwwwww
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:24
No Mr.W, pacifier still firmly in place
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:26
Let's hope said pacifier helps to keep your childish comments to yourself!
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:31
good, because if you keep spitting it out you wont be allowed in the gang
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:39
With childish comments? Certainly not!
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:39
this has turned into a great thread for nature lovers etc etc etc
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Last edited by spudmagoo: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:46:27
Do I need a reason?
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:57
Fact or Fiction? Just a bit of useless information for everyone
OSTRICHES BURY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND
Fiction! Ostriches do NOT bury their heads in the sand.
This tale originates from the fact that the male ostrich will dig a large hole (up to 6 to 8 feet wide and 2-3 feet deep) in the sand for the nest / eggs. Predators cannot see the eggs across the countryside which gives the nest a bit of protection. The hen as well as the rooster takes turns setting on the eggs and because of the indention in the ground, usually just blend into the horizon. All birds turn their eggs (with their beak) several times a day during the incubation period. From a distance it appears as though the bird has his/her head in the sand.
An ostrich's first response to fear is to run. Not only do they not stay to protect the eggs, they attempt to detract a predator to follow them. Due to the fact that they can run sustained speeds of about forty miles per hour, most predators are quickly lost and the eggs are safe
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 14:06
'An ostrich's first response to fear is to run. Not only do they not stay to protect the eggs, they attempt to detract a predator to follow them. Due to the fact that they can run sustained speeds'
Darren caught one.
It's all in the wrist action.
Apologies, Spudmagoo.
At least it wasn't tantamount to libel.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 14:21
I remember having to move a male ostrich across Belle Vue Zoo.The head-keeper decided to walk him from a to b."You take the right wing" he said,"an Oil (he was Irish)take the left.If he begins to kick just grab his testicles" He didn't kick but 50 years on, I am still trying to fathom that one out
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it is, using that all the time is the only exciting thing some people do
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Every e...
Oh, you know the rest.
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not that old chestnut
i thought someone who spends his life between this site and google could come out with something different
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:02
never mind,rest of the gang, will be along later, then you can have a mummy cuddle mester
no wonder
expect complaints
edited, dont want the leader of the gang finding my address and coming knocking on my door
probably something else he'll try and deny
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:06
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:26:32
walshy,
they are not worth the effort. The height of childishness.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:24
Posted by: walshy76 (7114)
lol@ena
dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:07
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:12:44
July explanation, please.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 16:01
Posted by: Mac (8672)
I am going to come to your door, batter you to within an inch of your life, eat all your food because I am a big belly with a bald head then take a pooo in your bed.
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Edit
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Ah. Cheers Mac.
There was no mention of pooing and eating in the statement.
Anyone looking in could think serious threats had been made. Especially given the thread title.
Not that scoffing all the jackbit then fouling the Egyptian cotton isn't serious.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 16:12
democracry (speak your mind time) if you dare
come on guys (and girls) you should know by now you can only speak your mind if it fits in with certain peoples viewpoints, - anything they don't agree with will see you being branded a tory, a nazi or a bigot !
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 16:59
He is after shunting posts to Handbags, I made that post up as he made posts up about emails. Best ignoring the five watter (15 is far too bright)/
Apologies Spudmgoo for the hijack.
Hear hear, Mick. I posted a comment about Turkish/Kurdish/Iraqi's posting pizza leaflets every day and was caled a racist even though it's true.
Spud, back to your thread title. I wonder if anyone knows how much the council paid to have the tannoy system installed in the market? How much went into A.N.Others sky rocket?
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ena
walshy,
they are not worth the effort. The height of childishness.
but you always do (make the effort)
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 18:02
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Posted by: dostaf (31191)
Posted by: walshy76 (7114)
lol@ena
dont forget as well, if you upset him to much he will find your address and come knocking on your door
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:07
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 13:12:44
July explanation, please.
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 16:01
Edit
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 16:16
Walshy, my point is that you are implying that you have been threatened.
Furthermore, I an not Mac, as you well know.
Are you suggesting I have threatened you?
I have afforded the courtesy of addressing you with your username to avoid confusion. I suggest you try doing the same.
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 16:26
if someone said "i will find your address and come knocking on your door", which im sure someone said, i would find it threatening
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 16:59
Last edited by walshy76: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:02:46
Posted by: walshy76 (7114)
never mind,rest of the gang, will be along later, then you can have a mummy cuddle mester
no wonder
expect complaints
edited, dont want the leader of the gang finding my address and coming knocking on my door
probably something else he'll try and deny
Replied: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:06
Last edited by walshy76: 8th Jul 2012 at 15:26:32
probably something else he'll try and deny
Does that not imply that you have been threatened?
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:03
Original post was along the lines of 'feel free to explain'
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:06
like i say im sure someone said that on here
as for the edit, dont cry to much, its not as bad as ruining threads
people no my email, so perhaps one of the nice folk out there could find it and send me a link
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:10
ena
it simply the council are rsponsible for everything that happens in wigan.
your constant rearguard action defending wmbc against the forces of right must end soon.the education dept must look at that statement and grimace.the person is right, but subject to a wigan education cant spell corrupt.the council are filling wigan mbc full to the brim with houses,whats your insider view of that scenario.
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:21
Baker boy emmm,
Whoops
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Last edited by erontquay: 9th Jul 2012 at 17:27:51
dear ena please elaborate and spellcheck your posting
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 23:19
free speech and mr magoo is on about spellcheck.
Replied: 9th Jul 2012 at 23:29
this is about understanding a comment. maybe you could translate the meaning of enas posting instead of banging in the sarcastic one liner
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Last edited by spudmagoo: 9th Jul 2012 at 23:48:58
ena can speak for her self, your just following
the pack,
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oops.
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