jack52, Am I right in thinking that you are a Wilcox?
If so, then your Dad would be called after his and my uncle John Edwin.
I missed Arthur off my list my brother told me that Arthur kept a pub in St Helens.
Re the drowning of Richard. The details there are that Richard who was not a heavy drinker was drinking in the Harrow Pub in Riding Lane and one of the suggested going to the Dover hotel, Richard against his better judgement was reluctant but in the went with them.
They had the extra drink after time and came out through the back door ahead of Richard who had called in the Gents.
It was a foggy night by the canal bank and Richard walked out and fell into the canal. That was on the Saturday night.
On Monday morning John came to our house at Bryn hall to inform my mother (her brother)of the situation and the police were going to use grappling irons to recover the body. The canal bank was steep at that area and Richards hands were worn down to the bones as he tried to climb up the bank. A sad time. He was a lovely man who used to mend clocks in his spared time.
My wife and I used to go to the Park Lane Club with my sister Pamela and her husband Alan on Saturday nights and meet up with John and his wife, sometimes his daughter would join us.
My last connection was at the funeral of Joseph at Our Ladies Church.
So Jack you have the information that I have.
John Edwin Senior died in America in 1972.